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Russia's strategy in its war on Ukraine is shifting toward a "slow annihilation" of the Ukrainian military, US and other Western officials tell CNN, warning that Russia could focus on a bloody and deadly bombardment of cities and civilian targets as the conflict becomes a grinding war of attrition.
Ukrainian forces have so far been able to stave off Russia's initial push, maintaining control of Kyiv and other major cities. But they remain massively outgunned and outmanned. And Russia is now bringing in heavier, more destructive weaponry and increasingly striking civilian infrastructure, after an initial focus on military targets, the officials said.
The shift in strategy likely reflects a recognition by Russian President Vladimir Putin that his initial plan to quickly topple Kyiv has failed, said one senior Western intelligence official -- in part because the Ukrainians have put up a stiffer than anticipated fight and in part because logistics and supply missteps have slowed the Russian advance.
But Western officials now expect that Russia will ramp up heavy weapons bombardment of Ukraine's cities and potentially march in "tens of thousands" of troops, one US official said. Eventually, officials caution, Ukraine's military will likely run short of supplies needed to keep up the fight.
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'Cruel military math'
Ukraine's will to fight "is extending this," said the senior Western intelligence official. "But the cruel military math of this will eventually come to bear, absent some intervention, absent some fundamental change in the dynamic."
For Ukraine, whose military forces and civilian population have shown no signs of capitulating, the war appears poised to become a grim struggle for survival over a protracted, uncertain future.
The numbers are already bleak: Russia has lost roughly 3% to 5% of its tanks, aircraft, artillery and other military assets inside Ukraine compared with Ukrainian losses of roughly 10% of its capabilities, according to two US officials familiar with the latest intelligence.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/politics/us-russia-ukraine-civilians-warning/index.html
We, the US and NATO that is, must either intervene directly immediately with our superior military might to back Ukrainian forces or de-escalate tensions somehow.
Anything else seems to be using the brave Ukrainian resistance as cannon fodder in a losing cause in a proxy war with Russia.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)bluewater
(5,376 posts)The question is whether we, the US and NATO, step up and intervene militarily or do we leave the brave Ukrainian resistance fighting what should be our battle too all by themselves.
Half measures just means more Ukrainian forces will die in a fight CNN and US officials say they cannot win.
Tragic, but true.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)bluewater
(5,376 posts)That's a fact.
We, the US and NATO, intervened in Libya to stop Gadaffi's genocidal plans, as just one example.
Ukraine not being a NATO member is irrelevant in whether or not we have a moral obligation to help them resist this Russian invasion.
Again, half measures will just lead to more Ukrainian deaths in a losing cause.
Tragic, but true.
msongs
(67,405 posts)atreides1
(16,077 posts)That's all that Ukraine has, left!
All the military equipment in the universe is useless...if there isn't anyone to use it!
Once Putin installs his puppet government...the Baltic states will be next...and I don't believe that NATO will do anything!!!
PortTack
(32,762 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)We had all the numbers and firepower then, too.
ProfessorGAC
(65,013 posts)It took 15 minutes to rout the Taliban.
20 years later, we cease the occupation and in under a week they were at it again.
All that power didn't change anything. It just chased the rats into the sewer until later.
And, their military wouldn't be any more successful against a protracted insurgency of the invaded.
Ex Lurker
(3,813 posts)we could have stayed there indefinitely if we had had the willpower. Russia can stay in Ukraine indefinitely if he has the willpower. We can make it extremely costly for him but we can't push him out without widening the war.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)Plus Putin is 70 and won't be around forever
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)If retaliation doesn't get him in his bunker, his buddies that live will get him.
And they had it so good.....
Irish_Dem
(47,027 posts)A bloodbath and demolished country.
A remarkable people gone. A people who were brave, showed good will in the face of adversity, smart, clever, maintained their sense of humor when facing evil. The kind of people who are the best of mankind.
And there was nothing we could do because a madman threatened to blow up the world.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)bluewater
(5,376 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,303 posts)Its up to us how we decide to respond to threats.
And we have to own that. We are not powerless. We are choosing not to act.
Irish_Dem
(47,027 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,303 posts)I am will be ashamed if we allow this. And we will regret it. Mark my words
Irish_Dem
(47,027 posts)People way smarter than I am could come up with a plan that is somewhere between doing nothing and WWIII. The bank plan is not slowing down Putin in the least, and even if it does, it will be too late.
If there is no one who can come up with a plan to save Ukraine then the $trillions we spend on our government and military is a waste.
Putin will feel he is invincible and will move onto his next victim.
We own some responsibility for all of this. We allowed Putin to take over half our congress and the US media, install a US president and greatly divide and weaken our country. Putin was emboldened by his success in the US and moved onto Ukraine.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)Or we could also do nothing, because we're seemingly terrified of him(which is exactly what he wants)
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Sounds like making a virtue of necessity to me.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)Fools think their bullshit is really snowing us.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Is part of the plan getting their asses kicked, soldiers going AWOL, and all their elite units getting killed? Putin is clueless and way stupider than the world expected him to be.
It's easy to damage things. Any oaf can do that. But building things takes intelligence. Putin has proven himself to be an oaf.
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,303 posts)ugh
Lancero
(3,003 posts)20 billion Euros. Thats how much money Germany alone provided Russia last year when buying gas and oil. A full third of their military budget, from just one country.
Russian soliders are committing these atrocities. But its the West funding it.
We need to start sanctioning Russia's top exports, which so far have been left alone.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Russian soliders are committing these atrocities. But its the West funding it.
We need to start sanctioning Russia's top exports, which so far have been left alone.
So true.
Azathoth
(4,608 posts)There should be an endless conveyor belt of military and humanitarian supplies rolling into Ukraine on a daily basis. And Russia needs to know it will never slow down. Let Russia know that for every functioning Russian tank in Ukraine, the Ukranians will receive 10 Javelins a week.
Give em hundreds of long range drones and medium range ballistic missiles. Let them hit Russia's civilian infrastructure in retaliation. Tit for tat.
If Russia wants a war of attrition, give it to them with both barrels. Ukraine will have the financial support to rebuild. Russia won't.
XacerbatedDem
(511 posts)stationed in Germany to keep an eye on the Ruskies. The whole time I was there, one phrase kept coming up over and over again - "Nuke 'em till they glow."
I don't think, in a war between the US and Russia, that that reality would not come to pass, from one side or the other.
Either way, not a good result for the planet on the whole. I keep hoping it won't come to that, for once that door is opened, well, look up the history of Hiroshima and Nagasaki after WW2; not a good place to live.
My heart goes out to Ukraine but I hope the sanctions work and that they are accepted into the EU. Maybe that will put an end to the madness, otherwise, time to start having more than active shooter drills in our schools.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Sure sounds to me like NATO and Europe want Ukraine to hurry up and give in so we don't have to worry about Putin getting mad enough to use nukes. Shameful. Putin is not going to stop with Ukraine.
Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)that Ukraine faces. But there's no need to suggest they will inevitably lose, either. Not helpful at all. Zelensky isn't delusional and most likely neither he nor his administration (should he not survive) are going to allow carnage to continue when there's no hope left, but Ukraine isn't there yet. Give them a chance, let the sanctions squeeze Russia, and HELP THEM, "western officials".
Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)way of life.