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Qutzupalotl

(14,306 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 10:40 PM Mar 2022

Filing: criminal conspiracy to defraud




FLASH: In new legal filing, the US House Select Jan 6 Committee says:

"The Select Committee also has a good-faith basis for concluding that the President and members of his Campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371."




Committee (more): "The evidence supports an inference that President Trump, Plaintiff, and several others entered into an agreement to defraud the United States....."

(more)

Committee (continued): "... by interfering with the election certification process, disseminating false information about election fraud, and pressuring state officials to alter state election results and federal officials to assist in that
effort"

MORE from Jan 6 Committee court filing: "In addition to the legal effort to delay the certification, there is also evidence that the conspiracy extended to the rioters engaged in acts of violence at the Capitol."

Jan 6 Committee wants records from John Eastman.. and uses this argument:

"Communications in which a “client consults an attorney for advice that will serve him in the commission of a fraud or crime” are not privileged from disclosure."

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1499208610613796864.html

Here's the filing:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__january6th.house.gov_sites_democrats.january6th.house.gov_files_2022.03.02-2520-2528ECF-2520160-2529-2520Opposition-2520to-2520Plaintiff-2527s-2520Privilege-2520Claims-2520-2528Redacted-2529.pdf&d=DwMFAg&c=jGUuvAdBXp_VqQ6t0yah2g&r=zE5sJaLkBN-7ClioX4P7zEP8J6V-skURfD1nOYJVTks&m=HB6kU10RKL9bJKwHoa_qZHppBHR-iAOHxFMVHLa8G53l8N45EwwLClYdcAiM2-OG&s=6385LLRNLGYAElaQiSSDok8fitz-SJhjLqO4rXuSZR8&e=
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Filing: criminal conspiracy to defraud (Original Post) Qutzupalotl Mar 2022 OP
tRump should be worried. BigmanPigman Mar 2022 #1
What is the implication to bullshit voter suppression laws if they lose this case? Probatim Mar 2022 #2
Why would he be worried? Marius25 Mar 2022 #3
We've never been able to document TFG's state of mind this extensively Qutzupalotl Mar 2022 #7
Kick dalton99a Mar 2022 #4
This could blow Eastman's attorney-client privilege. Qutzupalotl Mar 2022 #5
K&R! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #6
Wow! I read to p. 23 of the filing. It makes clear that Trump was told by many people that the Karadeniz Mar 2022 #8
K&R Hope there is enough to indict the dipshit! burrowowl Mar 2022 #9

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
1. tRump should be worried.
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 10:47 PM
Mar 2022

This shows what the potential crimes are. This is documented too, which is important. tRump knew it was false info that he spread about fraud.. There was no fraud and he knew it and went along with Eastman spreading the BS.

Probatim

(2,528 posts)
2. What is the implication to bullshit voter suppression laws if they lose this case?
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 11:35 PM
Mar 2022

We all know there was no voter fraud, but multiple states passed these laws based on TFG's lies. Can they be challenged if he loses in court?

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
3. Why would he be worried?
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 11:36 PM
Mar 2022

He's gotten away with every crime he's ever committed.

And Garland has shown no interest in charging him.

Qutzupalotl

(14,306 posts)
7. We've never been able to document TFG's state of mind this extensively
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:05 AM
Mar 2022

which is what you need to show criminal intent in court.

And we do not know what the DoJ is or isn't doing until they do it.

Karadeniz

(22,513 posts)
8. Wow! I read to p. 23 of the filing. It makes clear that Trump was told by many people that the
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 01:33 AM
Mar 2022

election was fair and his election fraud claims were untruthful. It also shows that Trump was personally involved in pseudolegal ploys to rally state officials to fabricate results to his benefit.

The bits I read are very easy to understand, written in language that's normal prose rather than legalese.

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