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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:19 AM Mar 2022

The Willard Hotel: We now know Garland is investigating the headquarters of the Jan 6th attack.

The oath keeper who pled guilty yesterday was charged with seditious conspiracy. That means everyone connected to him is being investigated. This oath keeper was with Roger Stone at the Hotel. That means Roger Stone is being investigated by Garland and everyone connected to Stone, including everyone at the Hotel. This is how investigations work.


This oath keeper has agreed to cooperate fully, which includes testifying. The prosecutors would not have agreed to a plea deal unless this guy has the goods. There is a good chance more and more people are going to turn.

The Jan 6th committee just announced they have evidence of very serious crimes. This evidence will be turned over to Garland.

Put this all together and it is clear Garland is investigating the top people involved in the conspiracy. He started from the bottom, the oath keepers and now he will go after the people at the Willard Hotel, which leads to Trump.

More people are going to be indicted, more people are going to turn. It's just a matter of time.

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The Willard Hotel: We now know Garland is investigating the headquarters of the Jan 6th attack. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Mar 2022 OP
I'm optimistic, but... do we have time? essaynnc Mar 2022 #1
I wouldn't hurt the DOJ to let we who pay the bills know how the case is going once in a while. Magoo48 Mar 2022 #3
Get over yourself. we can do it Mar 2022 #11
Thanks for your encouragement. Magoo48 Mar 2022 #14
Are you serious? Transparency in wnylib Mar 2022 #23
Thank you. we can do it Mar 2022 #29
Yes, we have time. fightforfreedom Mar 2022 #4
👍 Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #10
There are time constraints Ponietz Mar 2022 #12
That would certainly help us with the November elections leftieNanner Mar 2022 #17
At a minimum, the trash needs to be exposed before the midterms. KS Toronado Mar 2022 #18
We don't have time to get much effect on the November elections Silent3 Mar 2022 #19
+1 It's a fantasy to think investigations should not affect elections. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #28
Garland will be AG until January 2025 Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #26
good news. Roger Stone (as a long time dirty trickster) stopdiggin Mar 2022 #2
Stone is a pompous ass who needs to be in jail. Botany Mar 2022 #13
Shittiest "Batman villains" ever. nt Carlitos Brigante Mar 2022 #21
Stone was behind this 2000 "Brooks Brothers" Florida riot that helped to install w into power .... Botany Mar 2022 #27
Oh, I remember well, unfortunately. Months later I found this website. One of Carlitos Brigante Mar 2022 #32
Pompous Asshole on 1/6/21 w/Oath Keeper Josha James Botany Mar 2022 #38
Just another Howler. Tommymac Mar 2022 #41
Too bad there aren't pardon-proof sentences for traitors Mr. Ected Mar 2022 #5
Absent a signed or witnessed Trump-lawyer agreement, attorney-client privilege does not exist sanatanadharma Mar 2022 #6
But hey, Eastman included an unsigned agreement. That won't fly. Nevilledog Mar 2022 #20
News from Wednesday is that there is no such agreement. LastDemocratInSC Mar 2022 #22
At this point does it really matter, January 6th is ancient history to most Americans. The right doc03 Mar 2022 #7
Yes, it matters. Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #9
"does it really matter" - It amazes me how some want to sweep this under the rug. erronis Mar 2022 #16
I do agree it matters but for the mid terms doc03 Mar 2022 #42
WTAF we can do it Mar 2022 #30
For real? CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #40
Moving closer to the head of the beast. Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #8
Sounds good--wake me up when arrests are made. lastlib Mar 2022 #15
It's a big leap from the Willard Hotel to Trump. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #24
He has already testified to the grand jury, that's how these deals work. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #25
It's officially Sedition, but he's out on home confinement?! msfiddlestix Mar 2022 #33
We really don't have time SuperCoder Mar 2022 #31
Trump is not going to be re-elected. fightforfreedom Mar 2022 #37
I don't care what MSM has to say. the republicans will not win! Cozmo Mar 2022 #39
Who was who in Trump's Willard Hotel suegeo Mar 2022 #34
Thank you. fightforfreedom Mar 2022 #35
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2022 #36

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
23. Are you serious? Transparency in
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:32 AM
Mar 2022

a high level investigation about sedition?

Even city cops and detectives don't share details of their investigations with the general public. And now you think the FBI and Attorney General should make details of their investigation public? On what planet does something like that happen?

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
4. Yes, we have time.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:33 AM
Mar 2022

Garlands investigation has no time limit. Everyone at the Willard Hotel should be very worried. Eastman was there and we know he is being investigated. Stone , Bannon, Flynn, Rudy, a bunch of Trump lawyers were all there planning a coup. The committee has stated they have the evidence to tie everything, everyone together in a conspiracy.

Their evidence will be turned over to Garland and Garland will follow the law.

Ponietz

(2,963 posts)
12. There are time constraints
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:59 AM
Mar 2022

including, for instance, upcoming Congressional elections. The trash should be disposed of before then.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
17. That would certainly help us with the November elections
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:07 AM
Mar 2022

But Garland has until November 2024 to get his work done. Even if the Repugs take over in 2023, the Executive branch will still be under Dem control.

I'd like to see indictments drop TOMORROW though.

Silent3

(15,206 posts)
19. We don't have time to get much effect on the November elections
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:09 AM
Mar 2022

That is crucial to keeping democracy in this country. If Republicans grab the House (which is more likely than not the way things are currently going), and possibly even the Senate, we will have much, much harder time thwarting Republican authoritarian ambitions.

I simply do not get people who think that DoJ eventually, maybe getting around to taking strong actions against top coup plotters any old time during what's left of Biden's first term is good enough.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
28. +1 It's a fantasy to think investigations should not affect elections.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:45 AM
Mar 2022

In this case, the investigation absolutely must bear some fruit before the elections, or it's all moot. Democracy will be finished if it doesn't.

stopdiggin

(11,300 posts)
2. good news. Roger Stone (as a long time dirty trickster)
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:25 AM
Mar 2022

and weasel would seem to be a great place to start. The man oozes slime - and is guaranteed to have infected others coming into contact ...

Botany

(70,501 posts)
27. Stone was behind this 2000 "Brooks Brothers" Florida riot that helped to install w into power ....
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:44 AM
Mar 2022

.... over the real winner Al Gore. He enjoyed in the all the hurt and right wing rat fucking of
our democracy.






Carlitos Brigante

(26,500 posts)
32. Oh, I remember well, unfortunately. Months later I found this website. One of
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:01 PM
Mar 2022

life's big mysteries to me, is the fact that no one ever cracked that 'roided old duck's head. Given how many life's he's helped destroy and how he gets in people's faces to top it off.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
5. Too bad there aren't pardon-proof sentences for traitors
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:37 AM
Mar 2022

I want to lock up all these treasonous a-holes and throw away the key.

sanatanadharma

(3,701 posts)
6. Absent a signed or witnessed Trump-lawyer agreement, attorney-client privilege does not exist
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:49 AM
Mar 2022

Absent a signed or witnessed Trump-lawyer agreement, can attorney-client privilege actually exist?

No agreement means the conspirators have no privilege to remain silent, unless they admit to knowing or fearing that their actions are (were) criminal by pleading the 5th Amendment.

With such an agreement, Trump is directly connected to the coup, unless the lawyers claim they never told their client anything.
Such a circumstance would be a declaration that they kept their client dumber than a rock.

Nevilledog

(51,083 posts)
20. But hey, Eastman included an unsigned agreement. That won't fly.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:13 AM
Mar 2022

Wonder if they can get any info on when the blank one was made from the document.


In 27 years I never represented a client without a fee agreement signed by both parties.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
22. News from Wednesday is that there is no such agreement.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:29 AM
Mar 2022

Eastman was asked repeatedly by the Committee to produce a signed agreement for legal representation for TFG. He hasn't delivered one because it doesn't exist. These bone heads were winging it the whole time. Their sloppy practices have undermined their entire defense.

doc03

(35,326 posts)
7. At this point does it really matter, January 6th is ancient history to most Americans. The right
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:39 AM
Mar 2022

wing noise machine has had over a year to re-write history.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
16. "does it really matter" - It amazes me how some want to sweep this under the rug.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:06 AM
Mar 2022

Fortunately this administration and the Democrats in office think it does really matter.

gab13by13

(21,319 posts)
24. It's a big leap from the Willard Hotel to Trump.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:34 AM
Mar 2022

Just my internet lawyer's opinion that a quicker way to Trump would be through the fake elector scheme. We do know that it has been 50 days since the Michigan AG sent the fake elector scandal to DOJ. We do know that about a month ago the Deputy AG, Lisa Monaco said that DOJ was investigating the referral, hopefully DOJ is investigating more than just the referral but with the select committee being involved with John Eastman it gives me pause.

Maybe this flipper knows enough to flip on Trump, but I believe that Roger Stone will go to jail before flipping, regardless it's excellent news.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
33. It's officially Sedition, but he's out on home confinement?!
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:01 PM
Mar 2022

Very grateful at long last that the Jan. 6th event is now "officially Sedition".

Just curious, has anyone who pleads guilty to Murder charges, be allowed to be home confined? Aren't these individuals detained while awaiting sentencing?

I don't understand this practice of home confinement for the most egregious of offenses.

 

SuperCoder

(300 posts)
31. We really don't have time
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:55 AM
Mar 2022

Let's be realistic here.

If they think they are going to ride it out until the election. If Trump is re-elected in 2024, then it's all over.

He will be untouchable.

What then?

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
37. Trump is not going to be re-elected.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:14 PM
Mar 2022

No way in hell. He has become toxic, many Trump voters don't want him to run.

suegeo

(2,573 posts)
34. Who was who in Trump's Willard Hotel
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:07 PM
Mar 2022

25 to 30 people participated in the Willard conspiracy to overturn American democracy.

[link:https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/10/26/will-o26.html|]

John Eastman (fascist Claremont Institute)
Giuliani
Bernard Kerik (mobbed up)
Boris Epshteyn
Russell J Ramsland Jr
Christina Bobb (OANN freak. Attorney)
Philip Luelsdorff (Fascist paramilitary security group 1AP)
Joe Oltmann

The article contains names of foot soldiers advancing the failed attempted coup.

The Willard Hotel was mostly lawyers.
The Trump hotel "attendees" on Jan. 4, 5, are a different set of coup plotters.

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