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What the hell UK (Original Post) EleanorR Mar 2022 OP
So how much money has Boris taken from the Russians? Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #1
And other conservatives EleanorR Mar 2022 #2
Yep. Looks like Putin bought off half of UK government, just like in the US. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #3
The UK is a haven for money laundering, and that spells Corruption at high levels. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #7
I hope their Russian revenue stream takes a hit. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #9
"Boris" is not a Spanish name world wide wally Mar 2022 #8
LOL geardaddy Mar 2022 #29
Interesting observation. smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #37
Those are the above ground figures tied to political funding disclosures. Ford_Prefect Mar 2022 #20
Who funded Brexit? relayerbob Mar 2022 #4
+1 2naSalit Mar 2022 #5
Correct - Donny WA-03 Democrat Mar 2022 #24
Exactly Boris got in because of the Russian op Brexit to weaken the EU kimbutgar Mar 2022 #26
Which was partly to avoid EU anti money laundering laws bhikkhu Mar 2022 #28
Boris is going to need a ride, apparently. dchill Mar 2022 #6
A month ago he was being forced to resign. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #10
Johnson and Trump. SergeStorms Mar 2022 #11
Boris is "Trump, Jr." GoCubsGo Mar 2022 #12
money laundering and bribery capitals of the world: Miami and London Sancho Mar 2022 #13
You heard about his wife? She is part of a pro-Russian oligarch group. No joke. LymphocyteLover Mar 2022 #14
Whoa! No, didn't know that. smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #40
Hmm, interesting. I just thought she was a nice looking lady when I saw her pics... LymphocyteLover Mar 2022 #41
Wonder how many people are living in this country with dual citizenship? KS Toronado Mar 2022 #15
Oleg Deripaska, whose RUSAL is in Moscow Mitch's Kentucky, is one of those. ancianita Mar 2022 #23
The FEC keeps some of the most accurate records KS Toronado Mar 2022 #32
I hope so. ancianita Mar 2022 #33
Correct, think I'll do a WWW search on Russians with dual citizenship KS Toronado Mar 2022 #35
Nice find. Good luck finding others. I can't get names, but you might try U.S.Treasury.gov, too. ancianita Mar 2022 #36
Coming up empty so far, thanks for link I'll try it KS Toronado Mar 2022 #39
Check this list. Then check the names against any FEC donation lists. Good luck. ancianita Mar 2022 #38
Boris is like Trump in many ways. BlueJac Mar 2022 #16
why am i not suprized. 2 words panama papers . AllaN01Bear Mar 2022 #17
Boris Brexited accountability, have you not heard? jaxexpat Mar 2022 #18
I Hope You Didn't Think DallasNE Mar 2022 #19
They're scared that Arabs will pull THEIR money out if they think one day IT could be seized oldsoftie Mar 2022 #21
Anyone expect anything else from Boris Johnson? He pushed Brexit with help from Russian money AZLD4Candidate Mar 2022 #22
Newtown Neurotics - Kick Out the Tories Celerity Mar 2022 #25
Love it! geardaddy Mar 2022 #30
Not in the least surprised. AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #27
Don't imagine for one minute that many of us in the UK aren't going "What the hell" as well Emrys Mar 2022 #31
Of COURSE he is. That's why he was up there. yardwork Mar 2022 #34
Boris pockets are lined with Russian money... HipChick Mar 2022 #42
Looks like this is what Boris is aiming for. He came to power from Brexit, a Putin operation.... Sogo Mar 2022 #43
He's a Tory n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 2022 #44
European countries enabled Putin and his oligarchs for many years radius777 Mar 2022 #45
Johnson is a mini-Trump dlk Mar 2022 #46
Email received this morning canetoad Mar 2022 #47

Irish_Dem

(46,880 posts)
1. So how much money has Boris taken from the Russians?
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:55 PM
Mar 2022

Everyone's true colors are showing in neon lights.

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
2. And other conservatives
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 12:58 PM
Mar 2022
Boris Johnson could not have been more clear. “I just think it’s very important that the house understands: we do not raise money from Russian oligarchs.” Some opposition MPs laughed, and it very much is the case that the prime minister was accurate only in a strict legalistic sense.

It would be impossible for someone with only Russian nationality, however rich, to donate legally to a UK political party. What has undoubtedly happened is that a series of people with dual UK-Russian nationality, or with significant business links with Russia, have donated heavily to the Conservatives in recent years.

A Labour party calculation based on Electoral Commission information estimated that donors who had made money from Russia or Russians had given £1.93m to either the Tory party or constituency associations since Johnson became prime minister.

Others put the sum higher. Ian Blackford, the SNP’s Westminster leader, to whom Johnson was replying in the Commons on Wednesday, said the Tories had raised £2.3m “from Russian oligarchs”.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/23/oligarchs-funding-tories

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. The UK is a haven for money laundering, and that spells Corruption at high levels.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 01:28 PM
Mar 2022

Boris Johnson is the UK's Donald Trollop, he loves those rubles.








 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
37. Interesting observation.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 05:39 PM
Mar 2022

He is certainly living up to his Russian namesake. What a disaster he has been for the UK.

Ford_Prefect

(7,876 posts)
20. Those are the above ground figures tied to political funding disclosures.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 02:48 PM
Mar 2022

They do not include at least 50 times that amount paid to special friends of the Tory party or invested in their personal interests and "family" businesses. Any number of the Tory party elite have duplicitous arrangements outside the specifically political arena by which interested individuals may express their support for the party, its members, their policies and actions in government. It has been said the Tory leadership floats on a sea of corrupt money paid by Russian as well as other oligarchs, industrial and banking interests in much they way the GOP is here. Such an insulating arrangement would explain why they no longer care how the rest of Britain fares under Brexit.

When you consider that Putin is rumoured to personally control 200 billion or more , spending 100 million seems merely the price of doing business... Especially when you realize he is not along in carrying that cost either in Britain or here. And then there is the considerable wealth of the Russian government spent as foreign policy investment.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
28. Which was partly to avoid EU anti money laundering laws
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 03:53 PM
Mar 2022

Part of why Russia was so keen on Brexit was to weaken the EU, another part was that the UK is a haven of dirty money and the oligarchs are most interested in keeping it that way.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
10. A month ago he was being forced to resign.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 01:32 PM
Mar 2022

The new trick for corrupt leaders is to just wait out the scandal. It's just kinda weird that someone like Cuomo could wait it out until his own party forced him to go. Like Al Franken it was for misbehavior with women in their orbit. Not corruption.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
11. Johnson and Trump.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 01:37 PM
Mar 2022

Two peas from the very same pod, a pod planted, fertilized, cultivated and harvested by Vladimir Putin.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
40. Whoa! No, didn't know that.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 06:22 PM
Mar 2022

But for some reason, I knew immediately that I didn't like her upon sight.

I know there are people who don't believe that having such a reaction could be legitamate, but there are people whom I react strongly to, even upon meeting them once or seeing their photo. I can pickup an energy from them.

Most people I feel pretty neutral about at first sight, others it takes me some time. Interesting that I couldn't stand her the moment I saw her. And not just because she is who she is. It was visceral.

KS Toronado

(17,189 posts)
15. Wonder how many people are living in this country with dual citizenship?
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 01:51 PM
Mar 2022

And those with ties to Russia, can we find out which politicians they have donated to?
And how much?

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
23. Oleg Deripaska, whose RUSAL is in Moscow Mitch's Kentucky, is one of those.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 03:03 PM
Mar 2022

I've looked and not found answers to your very good questions, but will keep looking. I think docs on the richest of the rich are hard to come by, since many live non-jurisdictional lives. Got a private jet? Who needs a passport!

KS Toronado

(17,189 posts)
32. The FEC keeps some of the most accurate records
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 04:39 PM
Mar 2022

Searching there drew a blank, he's a sly one alright, but then he's Moscow Mitch's buddy, who knows all the dirty tricks.
I'd bet he's given repugs a lot of money.

https://www.fec.gov/search/?query=Oleg+Deripaska&type=candidates&type=committees&type=site

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
33. I hope so.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 04:41 PM
Mar 2022

If so, they should have records of more dual citizenship Russians' election contributions than just his. Right?

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
36. Nice find. Good luck finding others. I can't get names, but you might try U.S.Treasury.gov, too.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 05:32 PM
Mar 2022

I gave up after trying a few sources -- the US Treasury pages don't have lists, so it's not user friendly -- but I'm pretty sure the names are on the .gov site because I bookmarked a page back in 2016 when they sanctioned a few others.


EDIT: Try this page. It's got links.

https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/sanctions-programs-and-country-information/russian-harmful-foreign-activities-sanctions

KS Toronado

(17,189 posts)
39. Coming up empty so far, thanks for link I'll try it
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 05:43 PM
Mar 2022

Next WWW search might be Russian Americans in the news.

jaxexpat

(6,815 posts)
18. Boris Brexited accountability, have you not heard?
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 02:25 PM
Mar 2022

It's very true. Responsibility stops 2 miles south of the Dover cliffs. Reason, logic and other sound thinking techniques are banned from the channel ferries. Sanity is no-go in the "chunnel". Where once Europe lay, UK Google shows the edge of the word, a place ships fall off into space. Since the letters E and U have been excised from the nglish langag the nited Kingdom is diminished, somewhat.

It's hard to talk, confusion reigns, when they've removed 1/3 of your vowels.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
19. I Hope You Didn't Think
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 02:36 PM
Mar 2022

That American conservatives were the only ones getting money from the Russians. That money obviously has a lot of strings attached.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
21. They're scared that Arabs will pull THEIR money out if they think one day IT could be seized
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 02:51 PM
Mar 2022

Thats what he's scared of

AZLD4Candidate

(5,677 posts)
22. Anyone expect anything else from Boris Johnson? He pushed Brexit with help from Russian money
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 03:00 PM
Mar 2022

IT is beginning to appear the plan to invade Ukraine was planned a long time ago.

Emrys

(7,227 posts)
31. Don't imagine for one minute that many of us in the UK aren't going "What the hell" as well
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 04:29 PM
Mar 2022

and haven't been doing so for many, many years.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
43. Looks like this is what Boris is aiming for. He came to power from Brexit, a Putin operation....
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:41 PM
Mar 2022

"They need to act fast or their reputation as the world’s money laundering capital will be set in stone forever."

radius777

(3,635 posts)
45. European countries enabled Putin and his oligarchs for many years
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 11:59 PM
Mar 2022

as Gary Kasparov has clearly explained. They love his money and his oil/gas. That's why Ukraine and Georgia are not in NATO/EU despite begging to be in many years ago. That's why this is happening. And now the monster they helped create is not only a threat to Europe but the world.

canetoad

(17,149 posts)
47. Email received this morning
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:46 AM
Mar 2022

From a good friend in UK. She came out of retirement to give vaccinations.

....Watching the news on the Ukraine and listening to the bloody tory party makes me want to give up living!!!! This was predicted in 2014 by American Intelligence if Britain chose to leave the EU therefore destabilizing it, the only thing Putin hoped would happen was the domino affect and it didn't happen! Johnson is a puppet for putin and hence pretend fury and token bans etc taken here
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