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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMacron/Putin call: Not looking good, Putin wants all of Ukraine
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/03/world/europe/putin-macron-call.html (Sorry about paywall)A Putin-Macron call leaves France persuaded that Russia wants control of all of Ukraine.
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A phone conversation between President Emmanuel Macron of France and President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia on Thursday offered little hope that the fighting in Ukraine would abate any time soon, with the Kremlin saying it had no intention of backing down from a war that is going according to plan and the French presidency warning that Mr. Putin appeared determined to invade the entire country.
Our analysis of the military operations is that the Russian ambitions are to take control of all of Ukraine, said a senior official in the French presidency, who briefed reporters on the 90-minute conversation between the two leaders and said Mr. Macron expressed pessimism after the call.
Nothing is certain about the success of Russias operations, but we have to expect that the worst is to come, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in keeping with French government practice. There is nothing in what President Putin said that should reassure us, the official added.
The call, which the French presidency said came at the Kremlins request, was the third discussion between the two leaders since the start of the war. Mr. Macron, who was expected to announce his candidacy for re-election in April later on Thursday, has positioned himself at the center of the diplomacy in Europe, burnishing his stature in France and abroad by becoming an interlocutor with Mr. Putin.
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Macron/Putin call: Not looking good, Putin wants all of Ukraine (Original Post)
Bettie
Mar 2022
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JohnSJ
(91,951 posts)1. Guess what President Macron, you didn't need a call with Putin to figure that one out
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)2. Exactly, that was clear from day 1 n/t
Bettie
(15,998 posts)3. Well, there is that
but I give him credit for continuing to run point on the diplomacy angle. No one can say the West didn't try.
I also wonder if the bluster is to hide the fact that it isn't going as planned, so he's verbally doubling down on it.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)4. No kidding!
Maybe stating the obvious for the covidiots.
He is after Ukraine's neon for chip mfg process!
yorkster
(1,421 posts)7. Read earlier on DU
that Putin called Macron. So, it appears the French are putting out details of the call.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)5. Is Western Ukraine/Lviv will be next after Kyev?
There are still over 40M people in Ukraine.
Tommy Carcetti
(43,085 posts)9. If you think the Ukrainian pushback in Kyiv and Kharkiv is strong...
...wait until you see Lviv.
Western Ukraine is more hilly and mountainous so that terrain only further helps the home country.
samsingh
(17,571 posts)6. putin is brave with other people's lives. He's another example of what happens
when strongmen are in power
roamer65
(36,739 posts)8. Not with the sanctions he's under.
Not happening.