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kentuck

(111,103 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 01:11 AM Mar 2022

The damage shown in Kharkiv does not look like rockets or missile damage...

It looks like the damage from large bombs. It is too devastating for rockets or missiles.

What weapons are they using on these people?

There are war crimes being committed. Not only by Vladimir Putin, but by his Generals and military leaders also. They need to know that eventually they will be held accountable, no different than the Nazi leaders from WWII.

They are a threat to the world. They are a danger to us all.

They must be stopped.

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The damage shown in Kharkiv does not look like rockets or missile damage... (Original Post) kentuck Mar 2022 OP
we got one ! MOAB ! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #1
I heard the Russians used blue-wave Mar 2022 #2
Yes. Military Times said they are using thermobaric bombs. Silver Gaia Mar 2022 #3
thermobaric warheads have been used by the US, Syria and Russia for 50 years. WarGamer Mar 2022 #4
Yes. I realize this, too. Silver Gaia Mar 2022 #5
And they're not illegal, per se WarGamer Mar 2022 #6
As I said, I was repeating what I heard, no more, no less. Silver Gaia Mar 2022 #7
I'm not arguing, just clarifying. :) WarGamer Mar 2022 #10
+1, ... and against civilians too uponit7771 Mar 2022 #11
Cluster bombs Deminpenn Mar 2022 #8
This is what they do in the Russian-speaking part of country? The part with 'close ties'? lostnfound Mar 2022 #9
Military rockets & missiles do indeed have large bombs inside Saboburns Mar 2022 #12
 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
1. we got one ! MOAB !
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 02:55 AM
Mar 2022

probably a copy ! stand's for " mother of all bomb's !" saw the explosion on the net & look'd about the same !!

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
2. I heard the Russians used
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 02:55 AM
Mar 2022

at least one thermobaric vacuum bomb. Maybe more since I heard about it. And I'm sure there are more barbaric weapons that we will learn about in the future. Just with the thermobaric bomb, Putin and his minions are war criminals. War crime tribunals are definitely called for in this instance.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
3. Yes. Military Times said they are using thermobaric bombs.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 03:11 AM
Mar 2022

I heard them discussed by one of the retired generals on MSNBC, too. He said they are designed to do as much damage as a small nuke, but they aren't nukes, so no radiation. What they do sounded horrific. And yes, they are illegal. War crimes.

WarGamer

(12,449 posts)
4. thermobaric warheads have been used by the US, Syria and Russia for 50 years.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 03:14 AM
Mar 2022

We used them in Vietnam and Afghanistan and Assad used them in Syria, Russia used them in Chechnya.

Actually they were first used in WW2 IIRC.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
5. Yes. I realize this, too.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 03:24 AM
Mar 2022

I didn't say they were new, or that no one had ever used them before. Just verifying that this IS what they are using. The rest was what the retired general (forget which one) said on MSNBC. I'm no weapons expert, nor am I claiming to be. Just verifying what was said above according to what I had read and heard.

WarGamer

(12,449 posts)
6. And they're not illegal, per se
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 03:32 AM
Mar 2022

International law does not specifically prohibit the use of thermobaric munitions, fuel-air explosive devices, or vacuum bombs against military targets. Their use against civilian populations maybe banned by the United Nations (UN) Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons (CCW), however they are not explicity listed.

Using a thermobaric weapon vs a civilian target is no more or less illegal than a 2000lb conventional bomb.

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
7. As I said, I was repeating what I heard, no more, no less.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:59 AM
Mar 2022

I do not wish to engage in any argument. There's enough of that going around. If what I heard was wrong, or I heard it wrong, so be it. I am NOT attached to any of this. As I said, I merely wished to confirm the previous poster's statement, and add what I had heard. THAT is ALL. And this conversation is done.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
8. Cluster bombs
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:02 AM
Mar 2022

Russia is using cluster bombs where the container bomb bursts in the air releasing scores of smaller bombs that then fall to the ground and explode.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
12. Military rockets & missiles do indeed have large bombs inside
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 04:13 PM
Mar 2022

Called the warhead, sort of the key to the whole operation. No sense flying all that way not to have a big kaboom when it gets there. The U S Tomahawk missile has 1,000 lbs. of TNT in it's warhead, makes an ungodly kaboom.

Course it also could carry a 100 kilo-ton nuclear warhead.

KABOOM!

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