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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 11:59 AM Mar 2022

Maybe It's Time to Restart the "Dive Under Your Desk" A-Bomb Drills.

I remember those at my elementary school in Southern California in the 1950s. Despite their being completely useless, they did serve to make us all aware that nuclear war was something that could happen. We were worried. As a school kid, I was very worried. Then, in the early 1960s, as a young teenager, I helped my father build a fallout shelter under our house. Again, completely useless, but that also kept the risks of nuclear war in my mind.

Now, it's 2022, and we have all forgotten about all that. Nobody remembers the maps of the circles of destruction if a thermonuclear device blew up in nearby cities. We don't publish things like that any longer. I remember them, though.

All of that served to keep me aware of what nuclear warfare really threatened. All of that kept me committed to do whatever I could to avoid such a war.

It's not on our minds these days. Somehow, we managed to not blow up civilization after World War II. It's almost 80 years since that war ended. Those who remember are now a dying generation.

So far...we have avoided nuclear war. So far...

Maybe we need a reminder of what a global nuclear conflict would be like. Maybe we have forgotten and those who remember are dying off quickly now. Maybe we need to refresh our memories.

Just saying...

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Maybe It's Time to Restart the "Dive Under Your Desk" A-Bomb Drills. (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2022 OP
I'm too damn old to be diving anywhere, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #1
Well, I could still get under my desk. MineralMan Mar 2022 #3
My mom and I talked about this yesterday JustAnotherGen Mar 2022 #5
+1 I'm with your mom, one and done. appalachiablue Mar 2022 #16
Only if there's the commitment to vastly expand civil defense measures. David__77 Mar 2022 #2
duck and cover! :) Javaman Mar 2022 #4
Also know as: "Bend over and kiss your ass goodbye!" MineralMan Mar 2022 #6
Young people at work JustAnotherGen Mar 2022 #7
I remember being 'sheltered' in the basement Mossfern Mar 2022 #8
Wouldn't matter much in this day and age... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #9
If anyone needs a reminder, look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Hoyt Mar 2022 #10
Kids already practice active shooter drills. All the time. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #11
They use their desks for shooter drills. CrispyQ Mar 2022 #12
I remember watching cartoons on TV Chainfire Mar 2022 #13
Going to the shop Pantagruel Mar 2022 #14
Best explanation regarding a nuclear attack sarisataka Mar 2022 #15
MineralMan, I don't remember the desk drills or duck and cover although I was around Grammy23 Mar 2022 #17
I remember the duck-and-cover drills very clearly. Born in 1951. 3catwoman3 Mar 2022 #18

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,393 posts)
1. I'm too damn old to be diving anywhere,
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:01 PM
Mar 2022

if it happens, I hope it's an airburst right over my location, I don't even want to know what hit me, just a brief flash and poof, I'm just a bunch of molecules.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
5. My mom and I talked about this yesterday
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:03 PM
Mar 2022

She's like - my left hip is bad - I would be better to just sit still and get the blast - than break my hip for a false alarm.


Also - I never want to live through a Nuclear Winter. I'm a Gen X so didn't do the diving under the desk thing . . . but my parents MADE me watch the Day After when I was a little kid.

No thanks - I'm with you.

And what a way to go. Just a quick flash and it's over.

David__77

(23,419 posts)
2. Only if there's the commitment to vastly expand civil defense measures.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:02 PM
Mar 2022

That includes building shelters for people to go in case of need. Otherwise that sounds like a political exercise.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
7. Young people at work
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:12 PM
Mar 2022

Are freaking out. I was the Peace Child musical participant. Don't know if you remember that. Watched The Day After because my parents made me. They wanted their grade schooler to understand the stakes.

I'm giving the Z, Y's and younger millenials some space here. They are not used to the specter of Nuclear Arms.

On that note - I was born in 1973. My mom confirmed in a conversation about this subject this week - that her GREATEST concern in 1981, 82, 83 for her kids - was that we would end up on a milk carton or eating cyanide candy. Adam Walsh, Atlanta Child murders, Halloween Candy Scare. . .


So even for her - born in 1947 - that was already fading away by the time I was in grade school. The imminent threat was someone kidnapping her kid.

Off topic - I suggested she watched Stranger Things a few years ago - she stopped after 4 episodes. Thought it was awful. Totally related to the mother.


Not to make light of the topic - I just think from being around younger people these past five days - I see 'it' in their eyes when discussing this. They know terrorism - they don't know nuclear war.

Mossfern

(2,513 posts)
8. I remember being 'sheltered' in the basement
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:12 PM
Mar 2022

school cafeteria during the Bay of Pigs conflict and thinking to myself "I don't want to die a virgin!"
I lived in Queens NYC so we were definitely close enough to ground zero.

Can't believe those were my 'last thoughts."

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
9. Wouldn't matter much in this day and age...
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:12 PM
Mar 2022

People won't get guns out of schools, bombs they can't see won't change many minds. And most become apathetic about it.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
11. Kids already practice active shooter drills. All the time.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:14 PM
Mar 2022

Which is a much more real and possible threat unfortunately.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
12. They use their desks for shooter drills.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:19 PM
Mar 2022

Flip your desk over & hide behind it if there's a shooter. If it's a nuke attack, take shelter underneath your desk.

We were supposed to make the world a better place for our kids.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
13. I remember watching cartoons on TV
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:39 PM
Mar 2022

in about '59 when the warnings would come up. I specifically remember the image of a stick figure running to get out from under a "rain" of fallout. I thought, no big deal, I will just stay inside.

The drill that I also remember, from a little later on was, "Bend over, place you head firmly between your legs and kiss you ass goodbye.

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
15. Best explanation regarding a nuclear attack
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:54 PM
Mar 2022

Was from an instructor in an NBC Warfare class. He was talking about when you see the flash of the bomb, lay down, helmet towards the blast etc. In the middle of the lesson he just stops and says "Remember we are talking a nuclear bomb just went off near to you. It doesn't really matter what you do, you're fucked." He then continued with the rest of the lesson by the book.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
17. MineralMan, I don't remember the desk drills or duck and cover although I was around
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 01:15 PM
Mar 2022

in those days. Living in Jackson, Miss. I recall racial unrest, demonstrations, civil rights workers, etc. We had drills for tornadoes regularly, going out in the hall and bending like pretzels to cover our heads. We had those drills for good reasons, by the way.

Then later (I’m not sure of the year) we had civil defense drills in our town. On a Sunday afternoon we loaded up in the car and my mom drove us out to the edge of town. There was a caravan of cars. I guess we milled around for a bit and then came home. It was just to practice where to go — just in case of a nuclear attack. We kids were quite intrigued and thought it was a lark. I don’t think it sank in at all what the reason was.

During the Bay of Pigs I remember my father being glued to our tv, limited as news coverage was in those days. I’m sure he hung on every word Walter Cronkite said. Worried does not begin to cover his mood. I was about 12 and really didn’t “get it” that we were in a dangerous situation but at the same time, I’d never seen my father so concerned.

I think about now and really have trouble comprehending something so horrifying as nuclear war. My head understands we are in dangerous times but my heart truly wants to believe we’ll all be ok, just like when I was ten.

3catwoman3

(24,006 posts)
18. I remember the duck-and-cover drills very clearly. Born in 1951.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 01:58 PM
Mar 2022

We couldn't afford to build a bomb/fallout shelter, but I know my mother really wanted one. We kept canned goods and bottled water in the basement for several years, along with a trash can lined with a big black plastic bag to serve as a toilet - wouldn't that have been unbearable after about 48 hours.

My mom had lists of instructions taped to a wall of the basement regarding what to do in the even of an attack if neither she nor my dad were home. At the bottom of each page she had written, "WALK, do not run, down the stairs." Besides worrying about a bomb being dropped, she worried that we would be so scared that we would fall down the stairs in our haste to get to the basement and break our necks.

Even as a kid, I wondered what hiding under our desks would accomplish in terms of protecting us in the event of a nuclear bomb.

We little girls were sometimes more concerned that the boys would see our panties while we were in the knee-chest position than we were about an attack actually occurring.

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