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https://www.npr.org/2022/03/04/1084463809/biden-approval-poll-ukraine-economy
After what's been a bleak several months politically for President Biden, a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey finds he is seeing a significant boost in his approval ratings across the board following his State of the Union address and Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
"This is an unusual bounce," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion, which conducted the poll. "It gets him back to where he was pre-Afghanistan."
Here's a look at some of the numbers:
Overall approval rating jumped to 47%, up 8 points from the NPR poll last month. Presidents don't generally see much, if any bounce, out of a State of the Union address. Since 1978, there had only been six times when a president saw an approval rating improve 4 points or more following State of the Union addresses, according to the pollsters. Three of those bounces were for former President Bill Clinton;
Ukraine handling is up 18 points to 52%;
Coronavirus pandemic handling is now 55%, up 8 points; and
Economic handling up 8 points to 45%.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)but 'muhrica
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)calimary
(81,322 posts)His SOTU strategy and performance made a big difference. And now he needs to GET OUT THERE AND KEEP DELIVERING THAT MESSAGING LIKE THERES NO TOMORROW!!!!!
And YES Im SHOUTING!
My sincere apology, though.
I guess Im being so annoying like that because Im hoping somebody-who-can-actually-do-something-about-it might be reached. Even second-or third-hand. You never know whos reading DU - and who they might know.
Happy Hoosier
(7,314 posts)dwayneb
(768 posts)Although I am fearful of what is happening in Ukraine, my greatest fear is that we will elect Trump or he will gain power via coup, in 2024.
If that happens I think America the land of the free as we once knew it, is dead and gone.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Claustrum
(4,845 posts)But deep down, I still have my doubt. I hope his bad eating habits catches up to him but I am not betting on it.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Which is good for ALL concerned.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)This makes me smile
Link to tweet
"This is an unusual bounce," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion, which conducted the poll. "It gets him back to where he was pre-Afghanistan."
Here's a look at some of the numbers:
Overall approval rating jumped to 47%, up 8 points from the NPR poll last month. Presidents don't generally see much, if any bounce, out of a State of the Union address. Since 1978, there had only been six times when a president saw an approval rating improve 4 points or more following State of the Union addresses, according to the pollsters. Three of those bounces were for former President Bill Clinton;
Ukraine handling is up 18 points to 52%;
Coronavirus pandemic handling is now 55%, up 8 points; and
Economic handling up 8 points to 45%.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)I think that fact and the nation coalescing behind Ukraine and perhaps opening its eyes to the Trump-Putin lies surrounding Ukraine will result in an even bigger boost soon enough.
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Poiuyt
(18,125 posts)Biden is so modest, he doesn't like to promote himself. If he would do more boasting, his numbers would go up.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)How the M$M chooses for frame its stories. Imagine if we hand honest un-biased news in America just how high the Presidents ratings could climb.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)It was different because Biden's message is not in the media, people don't get to hear all the great things he's doing unless they go looking for it.
peggysue2
(10,832 posts)Long overdue that POTUS gets credit for his leadership and skill during trying times. Americans everywhere should be thanking our lucky stars that we have returned to competence, knowledge and compassion in the White House.
ffr
(22,670 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)until the mid-terms. Hopefully all the road building and bridge fixing will help, too.
BlueWavePsych
(2,635 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)A nation of flibberdigibbets, changing their minds based on whims.
MartyTheGreek
(565 posts)Ref: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-s-presidency-was-roller-coaster-his-approval-ratings-n1255360
"Trump left office with steadier approval ratings than his most recent predecessors, an analysis of NBC News/Wall Street Journal polling data from January 1993 to this January shows. Trumps approval rating remained within the same 9-point range for his entire presidency: 47 percent at its highest in October 2018, and 38 percent at its lowest in October 2017."
3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)
reported?
When I have seen some of the poll numbers from recent months, Ive found myself asking, Who in the hell are they polling? Certainly not me!
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)catwoman: Anybody besides me think that only negative polls are being...reported?
Rasmussen & Trafalgar are both crap polls (computer responsive automated polling) but the other sense of crap as well. They both are republican pollsters and pad to the right.
When trump was pres, rasmussen padded his approval numbers by 6 - 8 pts above the rest of the field average. While Biden's been president, rasmussen has counter padded his approval by 8 - 10 pts lower. This is corroborated by nate silver's 538 poll, which includes rasmussen in it's presidential approval poll average, but anti biases rasmussen by 8 pts. Real Clear Politics also has a poll average for presidential approval, but does not ant bias, it lists all polls at face value, including rasmussen which skews the poll to the right unfairly.
Here is todays '538' pollsters mar 04 2022 result for rasmussen and marist (had biden's appr jump after sotu):
Rasmussen 1,500LV 42% 55% /// adjusted:-44% 49%
Note rasmussen's face value 42% approval for Biden, with 55% dissapproval for 55 - 42 = - 13 net difference. Note the adjusted value which 538 assigns as 44% approval to 49% disapproval, for a -5 net difference. So rather than -13 net disapproval, 538 adjusts rasmussen to only -5 disapproval. Rasmussen padded 8 pts to biden's disapproval, according to 538's historical analysis of rasmussen (even tho other reputable polls have bidens' current net approval ratings worse)
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo
Here's today's marist poll which John's OP refers to:
Marist: 47% appr ... 50% disapproval /// adjusted 48% .. 50%
Marist has a -3 net disapproval for biden, which 538 anti biased by 1 (marist leaned 1 to R, actually pretty fair pollster) to 48 to 50 for an adjusted net diff of -2.
The adjusted net difference is what 538 includes in it's presidential poll averages. RCP includes face value, which allows crappy pollsters like rasmussen and trafalgar and harris (R) to cheat and skew RCP average to the right, by about 1 or 2 pts better for republican and worse for democrats (since there are usually a dozen or so polls in the average, it doesnt' reflect as a larger number thanks for that anyway)
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Rasmussen also is included in EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENTIAL APPROVAL POLL done by 538 and RCP. That is because rasmussen is a tracking poll and posts a (padded) presidential poll result every working day as it averages a rolling 3 day track. Most reputable pplls post a presidential approval poll only once a month, like pew, gallup, quinn, nbc, cbs, abc and yes fox in this case. However, the RCP and 538 polling average only includes polls within a drop back period of approx 18 days, wherein if the poll is older than 18 days it is no longer included in the polling average. Thus the reputable polls are not included almost half the time, while the padding rasmussen is included EVERY SINGLE POLL.
Since 538 'adjusts', it compensates, but Real Clear Politics (RCP) does not, and allows it's poll to be skewed by rasmussen. That is because real clear politics is better pronounced real queer politics.
Proof: Mar 4 presidential polling avg from '538': 52.4 disappr, 42.6 appr = net 9.8 disapproal
......... Mar 4 pres polling avg Real Clear Politics: 53.5 disappr, 41.6 appr = net 11.9 disapproval
That, ladies and gentlemen, is the rasmussen padding effect.
(both poll avgs might be closer & sometime RCP will do better for dems, since they might be using different pollsters for that time period, but when the same pollsters are used in the avg, RCP sucks for dems)
PS: Having a bias of 1 or 2 pts is pretty normal. But 8 pts is abnormal. Trafalgar was 5 pts R, there is one pollster +4 D, I forget which.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html