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ColinC

(8,301 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 02:08 PM Mar 2022

Alexander Vindman on Ukraine


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We all want to avoid being drawn into this war, but large wars have a tendency to grow larger. What seem like a risky options, today, will pale in comparison to the more narrow and risky options in the future. The sooner Russia terminates is war on Ukraine the better.


Vindman does, in fact, know what he's talking about.
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Walleye

(31,028 posts)
1. I think his advice is correct. This war is not gonna be contained. It must be ended
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 02:09 PM
Mar 2022

As an every years long war started with the smart guys at the top thinking it would take a few weeks

ColinC

(8,301 posts)
2. The only way it can be contained to Ukraine is if all neighboring states
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 02:10 PM
Mar 2022

Join NATO immediately. I think.

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
3. I don't think there's any response fast enough to stop it in its tracks right now
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 02:11 PM
Mar 2022

I don’t know if we can get Putin to surrender but I think that has to be the objective at this point. We can’t reach any agreement with him anyway because he’s so untrustworthy

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
4. I can't believe there aren't multiple scenarios
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 02:12 PM
Mar 2022

on the table between no NATO involvement and thermonuclear MAD.

At the same time, for fuck's sake - with the buildup since WWII of nuclear weapons on all sides,, with supposedly lucid civilized world leaders conferring about how many of their nation's cities, people, they are willing to expose - trading us about like so many matchsticks, who can truly claim surprise.that it has come to this? It was only a matter of time...

Pandora's box anyone???!!!

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