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Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 04:33 PM Mar 2022

Four words from my brother that breaks my heart.

I stand with Russia.

He changed his Facebook photo to the Russian flag, and his profile picture to the Russian coat of arms.

He used to be a liberal. He was a Bernie supporter who felt that Hillary cheated. He didn't vote for Trump, but he's gone full Q since.

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Four words from my brother that breaks my heart. (Original Post) Cartoonist Mar 2022 OP
Seems Qanon is under at least some Russian influence. Good to know NT. andym Mar 2022 #1
I always assumed Q came from Russia. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2022 #12
Good lord, that's awful Hokie Mar 2022 #2
Seems to me historically neutral Switzerland finally picking a side says it all. PirateRo Mar 2022 #3
I'm so sorry cartoonist Quakerfriend Mar 2022 #4
I'm sorry, I have a friend like that Bettie Mar 2022 #5
I am so sorry, heartbreaking indeed. FM123 Mar 2022 #6
That's quite a turnaround. My sincere sympathy. Kind of reminiscient of notinkansas Mar 2022 #7
Terrible news Meowmee Mar 2022 #8
I have not yet met a Trump or Russia supporter in my family Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #9
I'm so sorry. I haven't spoken to mine in years. Phoenix61 Mar 2022 #11
I feel ya... Ohio Joe Mar 2022 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2022 #14
He's lost his way. Nevilledog Mar 2022 #15
And he thinks he's pwning the libs, maybe even you personally elias7 Mar 2022 #16
These types are out there. boston bean Mar 2022 #17
Anti-vaxxers are going pro-Putin in Holland mainer Mar 2022 #18
Q Qrazies are full-on Putin worshippers blm Mar 2022 #19
Steve Almond, in his "Bad Stories," tell about an early-twenties friend who, like him, was betsuni Mar 2022 #20
wow... that's so delusional renate Mar 2022 #21
Drugs, maybe??? Sorry for your loss. I have two in my family...dead to me. nt Samrob Mar 2022 #22

Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #10)

Hokie

(4,288 posts)
2. Good lord, that's awful
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 04:36 PM
Mar 2022

You have my sympathies. I think this pro-Russia perversion was definitely fomented by Trump.

PirateRo

(933 posts)
3. Seems to me historically neutral Switzerland finally picking a side says it all.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 04:38 PM
Mar 2022

Sorry to hear about your brother.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
5. I'm sorry, I have a friend like that
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 04:38 PM
Mar 2022

Jimmy Dore seems to be his only information source and he's all on the "Putin is right, Ukrainians are nazis" train.

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
7. That's quite a turnaround. My sincere sympathy. Kind of reminiscient of
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 04:39 PM
Mar 2022

the Civil War era - brother against brother.

Ohio Joe

(21,757 posts)
13. I feel ya...
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 04:48 PM
Mar 2022

One of my brothers is a full on magat. It really is shocking at how much of a crazy person he has become.

Response to Cartoonist (Original post)

elias7

(4,007 posts)
16. And he thinks he's pwning the libs, maybe even you personally
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:02 PM
Mar 2022

My brother may be doing the same. I don’t feel like reaching out at the moment

mainer

(12,022 posts)
18. Anti-vaxxers are going pro-Putin in Holland
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:21 PM
Mar 2022

There seems to be a great deal of alignment between the two movements. Russia's disinformation campaigns have created zombie stupids around the world.

betsuni

(25,538 posts)
20. Steve Almond, in his "Bad Stories," tell about an early-twenties friend who, like him, was
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:28 PM
Mar 2022

a Bernie supporter. Almond was impressed by his political engagement and how he talked about economic injustice, but his rhetoric changed, began linking to anti-Clinton pieces from strange websites. Almond first thought this was some sort of unconscious resentment toward the guy's mother, a Clinton supporter, with whom he still lived. But no, another victim of Russian agitprop designed to appeal to Bernie supporters. It was never about policy or reality, goal is distrust and cynicism, false equivalence breeding apathy and depressing turnout.

"The Russians made a calculated bet that a guy like Jon, if sufficiently goaded, would shift from an agenda driven by progressive goals to one driven by animus toward Clinton. ... He also participated in group chats ... Here, too, his logic was tough to follow. 'This country can't survive another Clinton presidency,' he wrote to his chat group, who all happened to be female Clinton supporters. 'Clinton will lead us into war. She'll create a corporatist controlled police state.' When another member of the group asked him about the dangers of electing Trump, he replied, 'Why are you stuck on fear mongering?' ... 'A vote for hillary is a vote for trump,' Jon wrote a few weeks before the election, which is how you know he isn't a person of color, or a Muslim, or an immigrant.

"I don't know if Jon visited these [Trump] sites. I only know that he spent hours upon hours online, absorbing agitprop aimed at him, and that he turned away from from issues of economic uplift and committed himself, with increasing vigor, to trashing Clinton and agitating her voters. This is why he felt elation at the election result: it had served as a final rebuke to his mother and all those other Hillary **** too dumb to recognize the folly of genuine political belief. Over the course of a single campaign, his immersion into internet culture had transformed him from an American idealist into a Russian bot."

renate

(13,776 posts)
21. wow... that's so delusional
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:40 PM
Mar 2022

I'm truly sorry.

What are his friends posting in response? Are all of them pro-Putin, or is there a chance he could snap out of it?

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