In my lifetime I've seen my country involved in a lot of lousy wars

[Tomconroy]

that I personally opposed. But I would like my country to be involved in this one. One good war in my lifetime.

[JustAnotherGen]

1. What does 'involved' mean?

That means different things - to different people.

[Karadeniz]

2. I think he means boots on the ground. My soul agrees and that impulse is so strong, it overrides

my brain.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. I'm for us getting Ukraine

The baddest ass weapons we have . . . 5 days ago.

I believe - that European militaries have some of the same drone technology that the USA has. If one of them could quickly get it into Zelensky's hands . . .

[Karadeniz]

13. Ukraine has the Turkish drones...I believe I read that they function at 25,000 feet... and they've

been used effectively. I don't know why we don't hear more about their use.

[JustAnotherGen]

15. Aha

Now I'm really all about - just keep sending them weapons.

If they have the Kabul Drone Strike technology and are missing a key element to use it - lets get them that.

[BannonsLiver]

30. Oh they're very well known

In fact the Ukrainians even made a song honoring them:

I’ve been watching them kill Russians for a week. Lots of clips out there, though some are very graphic when they include the aftermath of the strikes. Crispy critters.

[Karadeniz]

34. Catchy tune! I haven't seen the videos you mentioned. How do you have time? By the time I read

all the DU posts and replies, the whole day's gone !!!

[BannonsLiver]

39. I started a Twitter list when it started

Its packed with independent journalists in Ukraine, many of them English speaking, which has given a pretty good sense of what's going on there. They shoot a lot of video, and mention a lot of cultural things like this video that have come up since it started.

[Karadeniz]

40. I must put it on my to-do list to come into the 21st century... no Twitter, no texts, no nothing!

[Chautauquas]

3. How good of you

to advocate that young Americans go fight and die in Ukraine. Why don't you go over there and volunteer?

[Tomconroy]

4. America first?

[Happy Hoosier]

10. I've seen this tactic a number of times.

It's bullshit. We have a professional, volunteer military force. No one is forced to join.

[Chautauquas]

21. It's not a tactic

I'm expressing an opinion. You are in favor of sending young people over to Ukraine, where many of them will likely die. I'm glad Biden is not doing that.

[Happy Hoosier]

22. If do you mean do I think it's worth something to protect Ukraine, then yes I do.

Perhaps you can watch the slaughter and feel nothing. I cannot. It will be to our shame if we allow this.

[Chautauquas]

25. That's kind of a shitty thing to say, Happy

That "perhaps you can watch the slaughter and feel nothing" comment you made. I could counter with 'perhaps you could watch young Americans die horribly and feel nothing', but that would be wrong too, since I know nothing about you.

I am opposed to entering the war in Ukraine. If that pisses you off, too bad.

[Happy Hoosier]

36. It doesn't piss me off. It makes me sad.

I dunno... maybe I am being too "idealistic," but I can't stand bullies and the idea of allowing a bully to win because of perceived risk to ourselves seems repugnant to me.

[former9thward]

32. They were all volunteer in Iraq also.

So I guess we should not complain about that.

[Happy Hoosier]

37. WE can certainly complain about bad calls and unjust wars.

I opposed the Iraq war. But the reason wasn't because of risk to our soldiers. It was because the war was not justified, and in fact, a terrible global-political decision.

[taxi]

5. Just asking, which is your country? nt

[Tomconroy]

11. The land of the free and the home of the brave. You?

[taxi]

19. I'm glad the Biden Administration is in charge.

[Tomconroy]

23. I am too. Just trying to move them along

[Lancero]

6. Be the change you want to see. Ukraine is accepting volunteers.

[Tomconroy]

26. Do you really want to insult me personally Or would you rather debate.

[Skittles]

51. how is it insulting to suggest you actually volunteer to fight

or are you just suggesting others do the fighting?

[bluedigger]

8. Appreciate the sentiment, but we can't swap bullets with a nuclear power.

Y'all go for it in a few years when I'm gone if you have to.

[Happy Hoosier]

12. Are you willing to cede to Russia whatever they want

If they just threaten war?

Bullies thrive on fear.

[hamsterjill]

18. +1

I don’t understand what people actually think Putin is going to do if he’s not stopped. Whine because he loses a yacht? Seriously?

If he’s not stopped, he will just keep going.

[bluedigger]

31. I never said we shouldn't honor our treaty obligations.

Putin makes a move against NATO and it's on like donkey kong. Right now, based on current Russian performance and depletion of forces, I'd give Moldova even odds against them. They suck.

[Happy Hoosier]

33. What about the 94 Budapest Memo?

It's not technically a treaty, but we "guaranteed" the security and independence of Ukraine in exchange for them giving up nukes.

So.... yeah... sorry, we ain't gonna do it?

[bluedigger]

42. Our position is that it is not legally binding.

It would be pretty ironic if a political agreement intended to provide for nuclear disarmament led to nuclear war. I do like irony.

[Happy Hoosier]

44. i KNOW it's our position it's not legally binding.

I think that position is dishonorable at the least.

The Ukrainians agreed to it in good faith. And we're saying we didn't pinky swear on it. Gross.

[Tomconroy]

16. Then Putin can do anything.

[Mr.Bill]

24. Eventually the Russian people will take care of Putin. n/t

[Tomconroy]

29. The history doesn't necessarily support that. Meanwhile free

Ukraine dies.

[bluedigger]

35. I can't think of another major power that has overthrown it's rulers as often as Russia.

In the last century or so, anyways. The problem is they keep replacing them with even worse bums. No idea what we're going to do about that.

[BannonsLiver]

9. I'm satisfied with what we're dishing out

Loads of weapons like javelins and stingers, humanitarian support and crippling sanctions on Russia that are unprecedented and that have crashed their economy.

We’re also monitoring Russian air activity for the Ukrainians via AWACS flying near the border with Ukraine in polish airspace. We’re doing quite a lot without the risk of an escalation that could lead to a nuclear exchange.

I’m also very confident in our civilian and military leadership to make the right calls.

[JustAnotherGen]

14. I have not seen

Where we have shared our drone technology with them. I think if Ukraine had access to something of that nature - that convoy could be destroyed. It would deal a severe ugly blow to Putin.

But - like you- I trust our leadership. This ain't the Trump Train we are dealing with here.

[NickB79]

17. They have Turkish-made drones

And from all reports, they are of very good quality. They have used them to destroy Russian armor already in combat. Probably not at good as US-made Predators, but good enough against poorly trained Russian troops. And, the Ukrainians have training with them, whereas they'd likely need new training with US drones.

So, just get them more Turkish drones, and keep sending them intelligence data on targets.

[JustAnotherGen]

28. Thank you to you too

I think Drones are effective.

[BannonsLiver]

20. From what I've been able to deduce

Watching videos from people who analyze weapons and reading stories from places like Reuters and the BBC the Turkish made Bayraktar Drones are good comps to what we have. Apparently it’s a very well respected weapons system.

My guess is the hesitance to deploy our drones would be for the same reasons we aren’t bombing their columns with B2’s, the risk of a shoot down and Putin figuring out we’re committing aircraft to the war.

There are few easy answers unfortunately.

[JustAnotherGen]

27. Agree - few easy answers

Will look up the Bayraktar Drones. Thank you.

[durablend]

38. FUCK YEA!! another keyboard warrior

Why isn't Biden and the military listening?!?!?!?!?

[Tomconroy]

41. They are, actually

[BlackSkimmer]

43. I don't think there's ever a "good war."

Perhaps necessary, but never good.

[Tomconroy]

45. Point taken.

[Irish_Dem]

49. My uncle was killed fighting in WWII. I like to think he was fighting a good war.

He was very brave and fought the good fight for a noble cause.
Not like the fake wars for oil or power since then.

[BlackSkimmer]

50. My uncle fought too.

My parents grew up in England and Wales during that war.

Necessary, but I’ll never think of a war as good.

[2naSalit]

46. No such thing as a good war.

[ibegurpard]

47. Here you are:

https://www.newsweek.com/heres-how-americans-can-sign-fight-ukraine-against-russians-1683068

I wish you the best!

[Tomconroy]

48. Much appreciated!

[Mariana]

52. Here's the contact info:

https://www.embassypages.com/ukraine-embassy-washingtondc-unitedstates

[Tomconroy]

53. Many thanks!

[JCMach1]

54. It is way lousier to make things way worse for expotentially more people...

As Putin out, war is NOT the solution.

However, there much more we can do short of that.