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onecaliberal

(32,862 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:19 PM Mar 2022

What do you call it when administration officials know POTUS is trying to overthrow the government

but fail to warn anyone? AND some resign without saying a word days before an insurrection. What if the criminals had actually gotten to Pelosi?

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What do you call it when administration officials know POTUS is trying to overthrow the government (Original Post) onecaliberal Mar 2022 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2022 #1
18 U.S. Code § 4 calls it "Misprision of felony" L. Coyote Mar 2022 #37
Sedition; crimes against the United States.. Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #2
been at war - death ! that simple ! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #19
Aiding and abetting at the least. Karadeniz Mar 2022 #3
Me too. Aiding and Abetting. Captain Zero Mar 2022 #5
Ooooh, I like the way you think with your addition... Karadeniz Mar 2022 #6
Conspiracy to make and/or cause a Coup de'tat. magicarpet Mar 2022 #4
Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States L. Coyote Mar 2022 #38
Lock 'em up Joe. magicarpet Mar 2022 #44
Complicit C_U_L8R Mar 2022 #7
In my mind there are three ways to deal with proven traitors.... the_sly_pig Mar 2022 #8
18 USC Section 1001 Mr. Ected Mar 2022 #9
A mistake kacekwl Mar 2022 #10
Yup Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #18
jeeze , I'm going to right a book about - monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #24
A crime that must be punished severely NewHendoLib Mar 2022 #11
They were not against the insurrection, they were just saving their own skins Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #12
Did they really think we would think they didn't know anything. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #13
They have always gotten away with everything. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #14
Yes, I am still not sure that anything will. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #16
Bill Barr is rehabbing his image, doing interviews and selling books. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #17
If they let these guys just go, we are begging for a coup to really happen. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #25
Yes the next time they will be successful. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #26
You're so right and it's a good point. We should be sounding the alarms bells loudly. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #27
All of this is pure Putin psy-ops. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #32
I guess the world is too. He's killed millions of brown people and no stopped him. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #40
My answer to your second question: "What if the criminals had actually gotten to Pelosi? " Mister Ed Mar 2022 #15
A Trump house party. 11 Bravo Mar 2022 #20
We know what those repugs call it... Ohio Joe Mar 2022 #21
The BARR BACKSTEP? TrollBuster9090 Mar 2022 #22
Sounds like a new book by William Barr! Emile Mar 2022 #23
I guess the crimes could be barbtries Mar 2022 #28
it starts with depraved indifference and gets worse thereafter bringthePaine Mar 2022 #29
Whatever the word is that everyone agrees on, Mr. Evil Mar 2022 #30
That would be outstanding. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #42
K&R UTUSN Mar 2022 #31
I call it criminally dishonest. dchill Mar 2022 #33
Misprison of a felony... Dan Mar 2022 #34
The future of our country depends on us getting this right. The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #35
The Republican Platform lame54 Mar 2022 #36
I'd call it TREASON. In fact, I have been calling it that since early 2020. PatrickforB Mar 2022 #39
To quote George Bush "Isn't that uniquely American!". BamaRefugee Mar 2022 #41
Quislings. Fifth Columnists. Traitors (for real). Cowards. Double-crossers. Betrayers. Judas. Hekate Mar 2022 #43
In my opinion, many of them were hoping the insurrection would succeed. diane in sf Mar 2022 #45

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
37. 18 U.S. Code § 4 calls it "Misprision of felony"
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:54 PM
Mar 2022
18 U.S. Code § 4 - Misprision of felony

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
4. Conspiracy to make and/or cause a Coup de'tat.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:24 PM
Mar 2022

... against and opposed to the wishes of the population currently in the majority of political powers.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
38. Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:55 PM
Mar 2022
18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

the_sly_pig

(741 posts)
8. In my mind there are three ways to deal with proven traitors....
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:36 PM
Mar 2022

The French way.
The Russian way.
The ancient way.

With all its flaws the United States remains a beacon of hope for the rest of the world. And there are those that purposefully tried to undermine its founding principles for money or power or status. F them all.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
9. 18 USC Section 1001
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 05:43 PM
Mar 2022

Concealment

The statute proscribes the acts of making false statements, falsifying, concealing or covering up. The statute also covers half-truths if there is a duty to speak the truth. See generally United States v. Lutwak, 195 F.2d 748 (7th Cir. 1948), aff'd, 344 U.S. 604 (1953).

Concealment and cover-up are essentially identical concepts and often result from falsification. These acts need not have any relation to a statement or representation.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
24. jeeze , I'm going to right a book about -
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:49 PM
Mar 2022

haveing to listen to the TDFG & the republican taliban for 5 f%#king yrs of damn nothing party bull-shit ! not only that , we have to put up pos pillow guy ! everybody condemning Russia about Ukraine , why can't we get RUPERT 'S pos tv channel off the air for supporting RUSSIA ? just don't make sense!

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
12. They were not against the insurrection, they were just saving their own skins
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:17 PM
Mar 2022

They were avoiding liability.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
14. They have always gotten away with everything.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:24 PM
Mar 2022

They are the white male elite.

We know they are crooks but nothing much happens.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
17. Bill Barr is rehabbing his image, doing interviews and selling books.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:27 PM
Mar 2022

Will make money on the lecture circuit and be a GOP icon.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
26. Yes the next time they will be successful.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:58 PM
Mar 2022

But a coup of sorts already happened.

When Putin bought off half the US congress, the WH and US media.

onecaliberal

(32,862 posts)
27. You're so right and it's a good point. We should be sounding the alarms bells loudly.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:06 PM
Mar 2022

Especially when we can point to what putrid is doing. We have an idiot on the right calling for us to invade Canada.

Irish_Dem

(47,124 posts)
32. All of this is pure Putin psy-ops.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:21 PM
Mar 2022

Distract and divide the US over foolish, stupid issues.
Make US democracy look ridiculous.

Create chaos in democratic nations while Putin plans to rule the world.

The takeover of the US was just a stepping stone to Putin taking control of the West. China will take control of the East.

The GOP is fine with all of this as long as they have permanent power in the US and access to all US assets.

Mister Ed

(5,940 posts)
15. My answer to your second question: "What if the criminals had actually gotten to Pelosi? "
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:25 PM
Mar 2022

I believe that Trump would have claimed it as cause to invoke his powers under the Insurrection Act, which, as I understand it, are almost as great as presidential powers under Martial Law. And I believe he might have then been able to remain in power.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
22. The BARR BACKSTEP?
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:41 PM
Mar 2022

The Barr Backstep: in five easy steps.
1. Help a crook to stage a soft coup d'etat.

2. When it becomes obvious that it's not going to succeed, you resign before the attempt is scheduled to take place.

3. Hide in a bunker for six months with a type writer.

4. Pop out of the ground, like a rat from a sewer pipe, with a tell-all book in hand, explaining how you tried to STOP the coup.

5. Go on a reputation-rehabilitation book tour, so that, hopefully, your grandchildren won't have to change their names and move to Argentina.

barbtries

(28,798 posts)
28. I guess the crimes could be
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:11 PM
Mar 2022

conspiracy, sedition?

2nd question, she would be dead now. of this I have no doubt.

Mr. Evil

(2,845 posts)
30. Whatever the word is that everyone agrees on,
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:20 PM
Mar 2022

I'm good with it.

For the actual shit-stain cockwombles it applies to, strap a parachute on their backs, load them on several transport planes and drop them randomly over Russia. Good fucking riddance to them!

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
35. The future of our country depends on us getting this right.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:48 PM
Mar 2022

Our justice systems must work.
Let your leaders know that you will not accept compromise.

PatrickforB

(14,576 posts)
39. I'd call it TREASON. In fact, I have been calling it that since early 2020.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:58 PM
Mar 2022

But there are other adjectives we can apply:

Corruption.
Incompetence.
Insurrection.
Malfeasance.
Stupidity.

Whatever word we use, we must admit we have nearly lost our republic, and we still have quite a ways to go to get it back.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
43. Quislings. Fifth Columnists. Traitors (for real). Cowards. Double-crossers. Betrayers. Judas.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 08:24 PM
Mar 2022

Name the thing, as The Magistrate extols us to do.

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