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BidenRocks

(827 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 07:54 PM Mar 2022

It was 1966. 6th grade.

Last edited Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Mr. Latshaw was the first instructor,(teacher?), who treated us as adults.
He was our history teacher. But 46 years later, I still remember how he taught us about Neville Chamberlain.

My biggest take away was one simple point.

Never appease a dictator!

I guess we don't teach history any more. Funny how in Germany, they teach their past but we don't.

One point: If the Ukranians were flying A-4 Skyhawk attack jets, I would volunteer to help. We have so many in the desert......

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It was 1966. 6th grade. (Original Post) BidenRocks Mar 2022 OP
👍 Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #1
The world was great before nukes. n/m BradAllison Mar 2022 #2
Definitely changed the calculus. Hoyt Mar 2022 #3
And once the toothpaste is out of the tube . . . gratuitous Mar 2022 #4
Hitler didn't fool Chamberlain. Mariana Mar 2022 #5
Thank you. The easy attacks on a decent UK PM here are goofy at best. JanMichael Mar 2022 #6
What was the US government doing to stop Hitler in 1938? Mariana Mar 2022 #7
Did I not BidenRocks Mar 2022 #8
Did I not BidenRocks Mar 2022 #9

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. And once the toothpaste is out of the tube . . .
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 08:10 PM
Mar 2022

There's always time to act rashly, it's what do you do after the rash act doesn't work or blows up the situation? I think President Biden is doing a masterful job with the situation on the ground, our treaty obligations with our allies, and the tools at his disposal. He's not appeasing a dictator; he's ratcheting up the pressure on Putin and Russia bit by bit, and they're squealing. There's going to be suffering, and that's inevitable given Putin's intractable behavior. Suddenly escalating the situation and betraying our allies in the vicinity is practically guaranteed to spread the misery and increase its severity across several more nations.

I'm confident that the President knows more about all aspects of the situation than are in the public sphere, and is proceeding judiciously to protect American interests, keep our allies safe, and present a solid united front in the face of Russian aggression.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
5. Hitler didn't fool Chamberlain.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 08:33 PM
Mar 2022

If he had insisted on going to war in 1938, his country would have lost. How would that have improved the situation? He bought the country a year to prepare for the war, and that's exactly what they did.

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
6. Thank you. The easy attacks on a decent UK PM here are goofy at best.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 08:43 PM
Mar 2022

"Domestic policy

Chamberlain saw his elevation to the premiership as the final glory in a career as a domestic reformer, not realising that he would be remembered for foreign policy decisions.[77] One reason he sought the settlement of European issues was the hope it would allow him to concentrate on domestic affairs.[78]

Soon after attaining the premiership, Chamberlain obtained passage of the Factories Act 1937. This Act was aimed at bettering working conditions in factories, and placed limits on the working hours of women and children.[79] In 1938, Parliament enacted the Coal Act 1938, which allowed for nationalisation of coal deposits. Another major law passed that year was the Holidays with Pay Act 1938.[79] Though the Act only recommended that employers give workers a week off with pay, it led to a great expansion of holiday camps and other leisure accommodation for the working classes.[80] The Housing Act 1938 provided subsidies aimed at encouraging slum clearance and maintained rent control.[79] Chamberlain's plans for the reform of local government were shelved because of the outbreak of war in 1939. Likewise, the raising of the school-leaving age to 15, scheduled for implementation on 1 September 1939, did not go into effect.[81]"

Not perfect but was not 100% wrong on the initial dealings with Hitler. Also funny that mid 19th Century UK Conservative politicians were very Left policy-wise.

He died in 1940 and Churchill said:

"Whatever else history may or may not say about these terrible, tremendous years, we can be sure that Neville Chamberlain acted with perfect sincerity according to his lights and strove to the utmost of his capacity and authority, which were powerful, to save the world from the awful, devastating struggle in which we are now engaged. This alone will stand him in good stead as far as what is called the verdict of history is concerned.[219]"

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
7. What was the US government doing to stop Hitler in 1938?
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:23 PM
Mar 2022

Funny how people like the OP don't have much to say about that.

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