Why can't we drone strike Russian forces?

[TheFarseer]

My friend came up with this idea and I can’t figure out why we couldn’t do it: Can’t we drone strike the Russians and simply claim, “It’s not us. It’s the Ukrainians doing it with drones we gave them.” Much better than using piloted air forces because it would be very bad to get a pilot captured. What do you all think?

[WarGamer]

1. No. What's the expression, "too cute by half"??

[USALiberal]

2. Duers? Because we have no knowledge!

[Skittles]

9. by WE they mean the our military

not THEM

[PJMcK]

3. It's a bit naive

First, American tech can be easily distinguished. The Russians would figure it out pretty quickly.

Second, it would be an act of war against Russia. Do you think the U.S. should do that?

Lastly, the battlefield attacks you suggest would not end the war. Instead, it would escalate it.

[DenaliDemocrat]

27. Russia already declared war on us

When they tried to hijack our election. That was an act of war and we should acknowledge and respond in kind.

[underpants]

4. Mmm they would probably be able to tell and that would be an act of war

We don’t want to get into a shooting war with Russia for many reasons.

There are experts who knows whose is what and they would know.

[AntiFascist]

5. Who can say we aren't?

[BigmanPigman]

6. Drones have been mentioned on multiple threads

on DU for several days. I would like some info from a military expert.

[mitch96]

16. I think some of them are Turkish attack drones. I saw a vid taken from a drone

blowing up a rocket launcher.... The UKR drone pilots were llaughing their asses off when it blew.. Pretty spectacular..
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https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/the-role-of-turkish-drones-in-ukraines-war-2799563

[BigmanPigman]

17. They still need "no air threat" to work.

and a no fly zone is off the table still.

"But for these drones to be effective, they need to operate in an environment with no air threat."

"They may be able to hit scattered Russian equipment, Ulgen added, but are unlikely to reach the most important and best protected assets, particularly those stationed around the capital."

"Twenty drones is "just not enough the tip the tide of battle, even if they were highly effective," agreed Mark Cancian, of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington."

[mitch96]

20. "need no air threat to work.".. I Agree. To the UKR fortune the russian air force is not

preforming to expectations. The UKR Air force is flying albeit with less planes than russia. I saw a vid the other day of a UKR SU24 ground attack plane hitting that convoy.
Every little bit helps I guess.
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[Karadeniz]

7. The Ukrainians read your minds and are using military drones. They could use civilian drones for

reconnaissance, but those could expose their location.

[doc03]

8. Maybe we are now, who knows. nt

[Goonch]

10. How Ukraine Is Using Drones Against Russia

Last edited Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Drones are playing a critical role in Ukraine’s military defense against the Russian invasion, but they will likely become more vulnerable as the war expands.
https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/how-ukraine-using-drones-against-russia

[Cha]

12. Thanks for the link..

Ukraine💙

[Spider Jerusalem]

11. Three words: "Act of war." Two more words: "casus belli". (n/t)

[Cha]

13. My first thought

[TheFarseer]

21. Playing Devils Advocate

Why then, is it not an act of war for Germany to give Ukraine stinger missiles and whoever to give them javelin missiles? We could even give them the drones and we’re just piloting them or he’ll, just show the Ukrainians how to do it if it makes a big difference.

Although, some here are saying it won’t work if Russia has air superiority.

[Spider Jerusalem]

24. Giving them weapons that they use against Russia is one thing

using weapons ourselves against Russia is quite something else.

[TheFarseer]

25. OK gotcha nt

[LonePirate]

14. There is no difference between a drone strike or an airplane strike or a soldier firing a weapon.

A three are a direct US engagement in a war with Russia that could easily escalate to a nuclear exchange with them. It's why the only no fly zone over Ukraine would be one established by Ukraine and not by the West.

[BannonsLiver]

15. And what happens in this incredible plan if one of our drones gets shot down by Russia

And they figure our we're contributing American aircraft to the war effort?

Also, I suggest you google 'Bayraktar drones.'

[Sherman A1]

18. Geez............

[TheFarseer]

23. I'm brainstorming

You just want to watch Putin kill them by the thousands and take away millions of people’s freedom?

[iemanja]

28. Biden has made clear the US will not enter the war in Ukraine

It's his decision, not Sherman A1. You have a problem with that, take it up with the White House.

[Sherman A1]

29. Do you want to watch Putin kill

Americans (or other nationalities) by the thousands or have justification to cross into NATO (or other) countries? That is precisely what your “brainstorming” is suggesting. This war as bad as it is (and it is very bad) is at least for the moment contained, start adding in more than support and supplies you greatly increase the chances of it becoming more widespread very quickly.

[TheFarseer]

30. Russia would have no chance at all

vs NATO. The Russian people would topple Putin quickly and the troops would surrender. It would be over quick. The only thing I would be worried about is Cyber attacks and if China jumped in. I really don’t think anyone would follow orders to launch nukes but I understand you can’t just count on that as POTUS.

I’m not sure we should just hang back and let them reconstitute the USSR.

[Sherman A1]

31. You are absolutely sure that the Russian people

Would be able to topple Putin and no nukes would be involved? I’m not as confident as you seem to be.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

19. Video Shows Apparent Ukrainian Drone Strike On Russian Forces West Of Kyiv

[uponit7771]

22. UKR Drone shipment being airlifted from Turkey as we type as a "purchase" and not "aide"

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/ukraine-conflict-turkey-airlifts-additional-tb2-ucavs-to-ukraine

[oasis]

26. Putin's pawns. Send 'em diretctly to hell. nt