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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,858 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:44 PM Mar 2022

Zelensky addresses Europe: "If we will fall, you will fall so please don't be silent"

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called for solidarity in a message broadcast to thousands of people gathered in cities across Europe on Friday.

Driving the news: Zelensky in the speech, which came a little over a week after Russia began its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, said that if Ukraine fell, "Europe will not stand."

"If we will fall, you will fall so please don't be silent, do not turn the blind on eye on this," he added.

What they're saying: "If we win, and I'm sure we'll win, this will be the victory for the whole democratic world," Zelensky said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/zelensky-addresses-europe-fall-fall-205452225.html

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Zelensky addresses Europe: "If we will fall, you will fall so please don't be silent" (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2022 OP
He needs to tone back the hyperbole a bit BGBD Mar 2022 #1
Perhaps President Zelensky sees things a bit differently PJMcK Mar 2022 #3
And none of those things BGBD Mar 2022 #4
Nah, we've seen this before and Zelensky is correct even if we win we lose if this spreads beyond uponit7771 Mar 2022 #11
No, Europe won't fall leftstreet Mar 2022 #2
Tone it down? Wow. Blaukraut Mar 2022 #5
He's not being realistic leftstreet Mar 2022 #6
it all depends DonCoquixote Mar 2022 #10
+1 (n/t) PJMcK Mar 2022 #7
If it were up to Zelensky, the US and NATO would join the war with troops on the ground Polybius Mar 2022 #8
His country is being turned to dust along with his people. Maybe millions of children onecaliberal Mar 2022 #9
 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
1. He needs to tone back the hyperbole a bit
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:46 PM
Mar 2022

Because nobody believes the fate of Europe rides on Ukraine. If they did then they'd be in NATO.

PJMcK

(22,023 posts)
3. Perhaps President Zelensky sees things a bit differently
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:56 PM
Mar 2022

His country has been invaded by a dangerous military force.

Ukrainian people are dying. President Zelensky is expressing his sense of responsibility to protect his country and its people.

There have been three assassination attempts on the President by Russian forces.

I think he’s saying that if Russia succeeds in Ukraine, he’ll attack other nations.

For these reasons, I think President Zelensky should use as much “legitimate” hyperbole as he needs to in order to project strength while asking for help.

I’m not in his shoes and I deeply want him to succeed.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
4. And none of those things
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:01 PM
Mar 2022

Mean Ukraine is Europe's last hope.

If you want to convince people to do what he's asking them to the atleast say something they will believe.

uponit7771

(90,329 posts)
11. Nah, we've seen this before and Zelensky is correct even if we win we lose if this spreads beyond
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 11:30 PM
Mar 2022

... UKR

leftstreet

(36,103 posts)
2. No, Europe won't fall
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 09:47 PM
Mar 2022

He probably means well, but no one believes Europe will fall.

What will probably happen is a decade(s) long "dirty" war where lots of military contractors make lots of money

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
5. Tone it down? Wow.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:02 PM
Mar 2022

He is trying to rally his fellow countrymen to withstand the evil onslaught they're facing, so if his rhetoric reflects that, he is forgiven. That aside, I'm not so sure that he's not at least partially correct in his assessment. We already know that Putin wants to recreate the old Russian empire, so we can pretty much assume he's not going to stop with absorbing Ukraine into the fold.

leftstreet

(36,103 posts)
6. He's not being realistic
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:08 PM
Mar 2022

He's speaking as if he's a "world leader," but if he had any political experience, or even a background in contemporary European history, he'd know that Europe doesn't see him that way.

They'll sell him weapons, cancel Russian contracts, confiscate yachts, and tweet messages of support, but that's about it.

I think he means well, but he just doesn't get it.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
10. it all depends
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 PM
Mar 2022

It is no secret the amount of malice, some of it justified, that Putin has for Germany and Scandinavia, if he make a home for those areas, then all bets are off.

Polybius

(15,367 posts)
8. If it were up to Zelensky, the US and NATO would join the war with troops on the ground
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:11 PM
Mar 2022

Thankfully...

It's not up to Zelensky.

onecaliberal

(32,812 posts)
9. His country is being turned to dust along with his people. Maybe millions of children
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 10:12 PM
Mar 2022

Being bombed and starved to death is no big deal, but how many countries is this fuck going to roll through and kill everyone before someone can fucking bother to put a stop to it. If it wouldn’t be okay here, it’s not okay there.

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