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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 08:43 AM Mar 2022

"Why a no-fly zone is unlikely in Ukraine"

A no-fly zone would bar all unauthorized aircraft from flying over Ukraine.

Why won’t NATO take this step in Ukraine?

In simple terms, because it would risk a direct military conflict with Russia that could escalate into a wider European war with a nuclear-armed superpower.
While the idea may have captured the public imagination, declaring a no-fly zone could force NATO pilots to shoot down Russian aircraft.

But it goes beyond that. In addition to fighter planes, NATO would have to deploy refueling tankers and electronic-surveillance aircraft to support the mission. To protect these relatively slow, high-flying planes, NATO would have to destroy surface-to-air missile batteries in Russia and Belarus, again risking a broader conflict.

“The only way to implement a no-fly zone is to send NATO fighter planes into Ukrainian airspace, and then impose that no-fly zone by shooting down Russian planes,” NATO Secretary Jens Stoltenberg said Friday. “We understand the desperation, but we also believe that if we did that, we would end up with something that could end in a full-fledged war in Europe.”

“We have a responsibility as NATO allies to prevent this war from escalating beyond Ukraine,” he said.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskyy-technology-business-western-europe-feb816497f0f538b4b17ca7583cb072a

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"Why a no-fly zone is unlikely in Ukraine" (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 OP
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There you go again, calling fellow duers Putin trolls. Emile Mar 2022 #3
Same guy? Kaleva Mar 2022 #7
Yes, under the OP titled: This is Ukraine's fight. Emile Mar 2022 #8
I had alerted on that post Kaleva Mar 2022 #9
At this time, the best "no-fly zone" is the Stinger missile. kentuck Mar 2022 #2
I agree but, gab13by13 Mar 2022 #4
At one time, Russia had a problem with Ukraine diverting natural gas from their pipelines... kentuck Mar 2022 #5
I remember that Hillary wanted to help Ukraine gab13by13 Mar 2022 #6
Putin likens sanctions to a 'declaration of war,' says invasion pushback risks future of Ukrainian s LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #10

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
2. At this time, the best "no-fly zone" is the Stinger missile.
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 08:49 AM
Mar 2022

Russia knows that.

The Ukrainians are being supplied with Stinger missiles and Javelin anti-tank weapons.

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
4. I agree but,
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 09:10 AM
Mar 2022

Russia is bringing in bombers that Stinger missiles can't reach. Putin is sociopathic monster. Putin is going to do what he has done in the past, reduce Ukraine to rubble.

I now believe that we should move to prevent Russia from exporting its oil and gas. We have the capabilities to do that. I'm not only talking about the US not buying from Russia but stopping everyone else also. Yes, it is a tough decision because gas will go to $7 a gallon, but it may be a way to prevent people from dying. It is a hard choice because president Biden bear the brunt of it.

60% of Russia's exports are from oil and gas.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
5. At one time, Russia had a problem with Ukraine diverting natural gas from their pipelines...
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 09:14 AM
Mar 2022

...that went thru Ukraine.

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
6. I remember that Hillary wanted to help Ukraine
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 09:43 AM
Mar 2022

develop its own natural gas to sell to Europe and cut out Russia. I guess Ukraine also has a huge deposit of a mineral that is used in making computer chips.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,046 posts)
10. Putin likens sanctions to a 'declaration of war,' says invasion pushback risks future of Ukrainian s
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:49 PM
Mar 2022

According to Putin, a no-fly zone will be a declaration of war on Russia




The United States, Britain and others have so far ruled out supporting a no-fly zone, stating that it would be likely to severely escalate the conflict.

But Putin went one step further Saturday, saying that any countries enforcing a no-fly zone over Ukraine would be considered “participants in a military conflict.” The Russian president claimed that his country would see “any movement in this direction” as an intervention in its military operations in Ukraine that would “pose a threat to our service members.”

“We’ll instantly view them as participants in a military conflict,” Putin said.
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