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3Hotdogs

(12,378 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 09:45 AM Mar 2022

Taking out Putin. My thoughts. Yours?

Can it happen? I don't expect nor encourage C.I.A. or Eric Prince to go to Moscow for the purpose. But will Putin go? If so, how? Or will he just decide to recall the troops?

People who have suggested a "rubout," have been bet with hostile reaction. "Who would replace him?" and so forth. But if getting him out of office isn't the plan, then what is the plan/purpose of the economic sanctions?

So, who would take him out and what would happen to him? It has happened before..... coup without the leader being wacked. Remember Nikki K? He was removed and allowed to retire to his lakefront property. Gorby was removed and not killed.


Does the E.U. and U.S. expect the oligarchs to go to him and tell him to just stop? Do thy have the authority? The access to him? Maybe members of the Politbureau or whoever the second level leaders are. Maybe the military leaders but would they be much better than him?


People in the streets are there because they don't support the war or because they are directly suffering... But who listens to them?

Your thoughts?

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Ocelot II

(115,693 posts)
1. It occurred to me that maybe the reason Putin likes very long tables
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 09:52 AM
Mar 2022

is on account of the Von Stauffenberg plot to assassinate Hitler by planting a bomb in a briefcase under a table where Hitler was sitting.

Tetrachloride

(7,843 posts)
2. I made a list of several variations
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 09:55 AM
Mar 2022

Inside job ?
Well financed ?
Revenge ?
Bribe ?
Saving one’s billions from collapsing or confiscation?
Guns or poison or military assault?

So many possibilities.

Trump is being brought down firstly by Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen to name a couple well known ones.

So, my guess is that a well connected “friend “ will make a plan. cf Godfather movies

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
3. I heard a member of the Ukraine Parliament say...
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 09:56 AM
Mar 2022

... that the Russian people are calling for protests in all the big cities of Russia for this Sunday.

If that happens, it might create pressure for regime change?

Although Putin is very much like Trump, he will only leave with wooden splinters under his fingernails.

sanatanadharma

(3,706 posts)
4. It's a distorted sense of 'Chivalry' wherein not killing rulers trumps saving citizens
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 10:00 AM
Mar 2022

It is an distorted sense of 'Chivalry' wherein the elimination of national rulers is frowned upon, while warring nations freely murder others and their own people, who are not the ones responsible for the decision to murder others.

"Chivalry' demands that the leaders face-off in personal battle. I suggest Putin face Zelensky on a stand-up comic stage.

dwayneb

(768 posts)
6. Only a dream
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 10:04 AM
Mar 2022

Of course untold thousands of lives could be saved by "taking out" Putin.

First of all it's a mainly a fantasy. Putin is well protected by the FSB. Highly unlikely that anyone can get near him to do the deed.

Secondly, there could be someone as bad or worse to take his place.

Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
8. Nothing focuses the mind like the prospect of being nuked in the morning.
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 10:13 AM
Mar 2022

I could easily see Russian generals or others in a position near him removing Putin from power. I could also see them refusing an order to launch nuclear missiles. No one wants to sit in the dark watching their loved ones slowly die of radiation poisoning.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
9. Putin is part of a gang. Along with the rest of the oligarchs. And along with MANY in MANY
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 10:15 AM
Mar 2022

other countries. Even our own former president was a peripheral member of that gang, and gleaned mighty financial benefits from Putin's network of corrupt back-washers.

Now, those oligarchs are losing their money. More importantly, they are losing their ACCESS to money. They may have stashes that we can't get to, but they are not going to be able to print more money for themselves. And that means their influence and their purpose to the rest of the members of the gang are gone.

Putin's purpose, for them, was to provide the money and the access. Putin can't do that now.

It would not surprise me at all if, one night, all the surveillance cameras were mysteriously broken, the guards were mysteriously sleeping, and he mysteriously "committed suicide."

taxi

(1,896 posts)
10. Yup, you nailed it. Biden has removed Putin from any position of relevance
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 10:40 AM
Mar 2022

and it doesn't matter if he goes quietly or kicking and screaming. He, like Trump, goes home a loser.

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