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applegrove

(118,639 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:11 PM Mar 2022

A Pro-Putin Trucker Convoy Is Heading For The White House

BY JASON EASLEY at PoliticusUSA

A Pro-Putin Trucker Convoy Is Heading For The White House

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/03/05/a-pro-putin-trucker-convey-is-heading-for-the-white-house.html

"SNIP......


A trucker convoy that has embraced a pro-Putin conspiracy theory is heading for Washington, D.C. and the White House.

NBC News reported:

While some group members have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion, QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine and that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right conspiracy theories.


In the conspiracy theory, Trump and Putin are the good guys who are trying to stop the secret bioweapons being made by 80 something-year-old Dr. Fauci.


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A Pro-Putin Trucker Convoy Is Heading For The White House (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2022 OP
I thought they gave up and weren't going to DC PortTack Mar 2022 #1
Yes, the update on the story said that. OP should update. Nt spooky3 Mar 2022 #9
They're not going TODAY. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #31
I read on FReaks that they were going to go to an undisclosed location "2 miles from the Beltway". Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #2
I don't think so. I'm six miles from the White House, and I'm inside the Beltway. NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 #14
I said at closest point. Your statement undoubtedly true but doesn't contradict mine Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #24
Find me anyplace where the Beltway is within two miles of the White House. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 #25
Okay, I was eyeballing it on Google maps. Using their tool, closest is 11 km Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #27
Thanks. I'm not trying to pick on you, but in the last few days, I've read a lot of things online mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 #28
Nah, I felt you were demanding accuracy and adherence to reality. Those are DU traits Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #29
I just looked at that WTOP tweet. We'll see what happens. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 #30
Link not working here. nt Justice matters. Mar 2022 #3
The link works for me. Try going to PoliticusUSA.com applegrove Mar 2022 #4
I tried but ... maybe it's because I use a VPN? Justice matters. Mar 2022 #8
Don't know what VPN means. Wish I could help. applegrove Mar 2022 #18
It's a proxy service that allows connecting through servers in any supported country. Justice matters. Mar 2022 #23
They need to take their asses home. No one has time for... brush Mar 2022 #5
Because they like mass-murderers like the orange terrorist (re: the Kurds)? Justice matters. Mar 2022 #12
These people are wacked . .. . Lovie777 Mar 2022 #6
Bring it dumbshits... orwell Mar 2022 #7
Time to reopen the mental homes. Doodley Mar 2022 #10
We shouldn't tell the truckers, but the president is in Delaware this weekend Walleye Mar 2022 #11
So, a relative handful of truckers also believe Qanon Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #13
Convoy picks up anti-Ukraine talking points struggle4progress Mar 2022 #15
Pro-Putin? BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #16
Do you have a reliable source for this, one that is not given to flights of fancy? NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 #17
NBC reported the stuff in italics. applegrove Mar 2022 #20
Oh good! More targets for the Javelin! Aristus Mar 2022 #19
I hope people dressed as clowns line their path alittlelark Mar 2022 #21
Not heading to DC Saturday struggle4progress Mar 2022 #22
Republican traitors are the Greatest Dupes of All Time Achilleaze Mar 2022 #26

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
2. I read on FReaks that they were going to go to an undisclosed location "2 miles from the Beltway".
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:17 PM
Mar 2022

The White House is 2 miles from the 495 beltway at its closest point.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
24. I said at closest point. Your statement undoubtedly true but doesn't contradict mine
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:47 PM
Mar 2022

I can see on the map points in Washington that are 6 miles from the WH and are inside the Beltway.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
25. Find me anyplace where the Beltway is within two miles of the White House.
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:49 PM
Mar 2022
Bernardo de La Paz:

2. I read on FReaks that they were going to go to an undisclosed location "2 miles from the Beltway".

The White House is 2 miles from the 495 beltway at its closest point.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
27. Okay, I was eyeballing it on Google maps. Using their tool, closest is 11 km
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:54 PM
Mar 2022

... equals 6.8 miles. As the crow flies.

So you are correct, and I am wrong.

So, if you can pick a point "2 miles from the beltway" that would create the most trouble if trucks converged there, I'd like to know it. Just curious and DU mail could be used, but it's cool. We'll see what happens.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
28. Thanks. I'm not trying to pick on you, but in the last few days, I've read a lot of things online
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 05:01 PM
Mar 2022

that are just flat out imagined.

The last I heard, the truckers were out in Hagerstown, which is 70 miles more or less from here. They said they might get within two miles of the Beltway. I don't know. I've been recycling papers all day, and I haven't had the radio on. WTOP keeps up with this sort of thing. They're the all-news radio station in DC, and if the truckers start heading this way, WTOP will let us know.

https://twitter.com/WTOP

https://wtop.com/

struggle4progress linked to an article there that said the truckers are not leaving Hagerstown for DC, so that's that. If WTOP confirms the story, then it's believable.

If you read a story that says truckers have surrounded the White House or the Capitol or the Washington Redskins, if WTOP hasn't confirmed it, then it's not true.

As for PoliticsUSA, they seem to invent whatever generates the most views, truthful or not. It and rawstory should be banned as news sources at DU.

Thanks again. I apologize for getting so agitated about current events, but Mark Twain's dictum is as true now as it ever was.

{edited}

So here's the story struggle4progress linked to. It's sort of open-ended.

NEWS ALERT: Trucker convoy staying at Hagerstown racetrack Saturday night, per
@nbcwashington



Trucker convoy expected to head to DC region | WTOP News
A large gathering of truck drivers and other demonstrators are expected to depart from a racetrack in Hagerstown, Maryland and head to the D.C. region

What to make of this? Well, the truckers are staying in Hagerstown tonight. Tomorrow, they might head to "the D.C. region." If they reach Germantown or Gaithersburg, Maryland, that's in "the D.C. region." But they'd still be miles away from downtown DC, which is where the White House is. I'm in "the D.C. region," but it would take me a while to get to the White House.

Details as they happen.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
29. Nah, I felt you were demanding accuracy and adherence to reality. Those are DU traits
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 05:14 PM
Mar 2022

... and I try to keep to them. I didn't feel any agitation emanating from your posts.

By Google traffic, there seems to be a knot of congestion near Hagerstown on Rt 40 by Hafer's Gunsmithing and Zach Greenlee's Trackside Steak and Hagerstown Speedway.

I too had heard that the assault on DC roadways would occur tomorrow, not today.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
30. I just looked at that WTOP tweet. We'll see what happens.
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 05:24 PM
Mar 2022

I guess linking to the Maryland DOT cameras would be a good idea.

Let me see ...

Maryland Department of Transportation Live Traffic Cameras

I don't need to see what it's like getting to Ocean City ... Try this one. I-70 runs through Maryland from north of Hancock to Baltimore. It's the Interstate that the truckers would take were they to head east from Hagerstown toward Frederick, which is on the way to DC. At Frederick, I-270 splits off from I-70. I-70 heads east to Baltimore, and I-270 heads southeast to DC.

Cameras By Route from I-70 at PA Line to I-695 at I-70

I-70 East at South Mountain is a good choice

Cameras By Route from I-270 at I-70 to I-270 at I-495. This is the big enchilada. Any camera on that stretch will work.

Best wishes.



Justice matters.

(6,928 posts)
23. It's a proxy service that allows connecting through servers in any supported country.
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:45 PM
Mar 2022

Virtual Private Network (a paying service very low cost).

It "hides" your home or on-the-job real IP. The one I use "guarantees" not revealing it (don't know if their claim is "true" in all cases, but I never do anything illegal). It also "claims" protection from malware.

brush

(53,774 posts)
5. They need to take their asses home. No one has time for...
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:20 PM
Mar 2022

any pro-Putin crap. And why the hell would anyone be pro-Putin after he launched an unprovoked invasion of an innocent, neighboring country?

Justice matters.

(6,928 posts)
12. Because they like mass-murderers like the orange terrorist (re: the Kurds)?
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:25 PM
Mar 2022

Or his insurrectionists (CPOs).

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
13. So, a relative handful of truckers also believe Qanon
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:27 PM
Mar 2022

AND support Putin AND have the free time and money to tie up their trucks and buy fuel for this nonsense? What an oddly specific group to have come together organically...

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
15. Convoy picks up anti-Ukraine talking points
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:29 PM
Mar 2022

March 4, 2022, 12:51 PM EST
By Ben Collins

... The convoy .. organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine channels on .. Telegram ... was initially formed to protest mask and vaccine mandates, which have largely been repealed ...

The group’s demands are now vague and tied to what they call “accountability” ...

The convoy has added some of the most extreme QAnon adherents ...

“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the military tribunals commence over Covid tests,” Aniano said. “But I don’t think they know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to express that.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/convoy-picks-cars-anti-ukraine-talking-points-ahead-washington-arrival-rcna18716

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
16. Pro-Putin?
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:30 PM
Mar 2022

What happened to those evil old mask mandates? Not stupid enough? Fine. If they want to join Trump and Putin at the hip that suits me fine. Two tyrannical murderous dictators should make an easy enough target for freedom loving voters everywhere.

Fuck these phony bullshit truckers.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
21. I hope people dressed as clowns line their path
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:39 PM
Mar 2022

They are pathetic clowns.

I ALMOST feel sorry for them due to their obviously damaged intellects and psyches.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
22. Not heading to DC Saturday
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:39 PM
Mar 2022

Matthew Delaney
John Domen
March 5, 2022, 3:17 PM

A .. gathering of truck drivers and other demonstrators are expected to stay .. in Hagerstown .. Saturday night ...

“I’m protesting because the Democrats are really bad and they have us locked up and we’re American people and we know what’s good for us,” one protester .. told .. NBC4 ...

... Chris Rodriguez, the director of D.C.’s homeland security department, told WTOP ... ” The safe and secure use of their vehicles is a condition of their CDL license and so they need to make sure that they are doing that in complying with the law” ...

https://wtop.com/local/2022/03/trucker-convoy-heads-to-dc-region/

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
26. Republican traitors are the Greatest Dupes of All Time
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 04:52 PM
Mar 2022

I can hear their draft-dodging, contractor-stiffing, pussy-grabbing, Republican Family Values Role Model right now.

He's smirking as he mouths the words: "suckers!" "losers."

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