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Hekate

(90,645 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 06:03 PM Mar 2022

"Russia Is a Potemkin Superpower" Paul Krugman

Russia Is a Potemkin Superpower

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/28/opinion/putin-military-sanctions-weakness.html?referringSource=articleShare

Beware, Vladimir Putin: Spring is coming. And when it does, you’ll lose much of whatever leverage you had left.
Before Putin invaded Ukraine, I might have described the Russian Federation as a medium-size power punching above its weight in part by exploiting Western divisions and corruption, in part by maintaining a powerful military. Since then, however, two things have become clear. First, Putin has delusions of grandeur. Second, Russia is even weaker than most people, myself included, seem to have realized.
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So far, it hasn’t worked out as planned. Ukrainian resistance has been fierce; Russia’s military has been less effective than advertised. I’ve been especially struck by reports that the early days of the invasion were hampered by severe logistical problems —……….
But Russia is looking less and less like an advanced nation.
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And Russia is starting to look even weaker economically than it did before it went to war. …..
…. For Putin’s Russia isn’t a hermetic tyranny like North Korea or, for that matter, the old Soviet Union. Its standard of living is sustained by large imports of manufactured goods, mostly paid for via exports of oil and natural gas.
This leaves Russia’s economy highly vulnerable to sanctions that might disrupt this trade, a reality reflected in Monday’s sharp plunge in the value of the ruble despite a huge increase in domestic interest rates and draconian attempts to limit capital flight.
….What, after all, are foreign reserves? They aren’t bags of cash. For the most part they consist of deposits in overseas banks and holdings of other governments’ debt — that is, assets that can be frozen if most of the world is united in revulsion against a rogue government’s military aggression.
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Finally, as I noted last week, Russia’s oligarchs have stashed most of their assets overseas, making them subject to freezing or seizure if democratic governments can muster the will.………
Still, Putin has one remaining ace in the hole: Feckless policies have made Europe deeply dependent on Russian natural gas, potentially inhibiting the West’s response to his aggression.
But Europe mainly burns gas for heat; gas consumption is 2.5 times higher in the winter than it is in the summer. Well, winter will soon be over — and the European Union has time to prepare for another winter without Russian gas if it’s willing to make some hard choices.
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Cross posted in Editorials
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"Russia Is a Potemkin Superpower" Paul Krugman (Original Post) Hekate Mar 2022 OP
That is an awesome description. Perfect! Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #1
An honest and hopeful assessment by Mr. Krugman... PortTack Mar 2022 #2
I would consider nuclear weapons as another ace in the hole. Sneederbunk Mar 2022 #3
True dat. Fiona Hill thinks he's nuts enough to actually use them. Hekate Mar 2022 #5
Can he make that decision on his own and have it carried out? L. Coyote Mar 2022 #14
Probably not. This past week I read that a Cold War-type hotline from the Pentagon to ... Hekate Mar 2022 #15
Hill walked that position back a bit on Colbert a few days ago. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #19
Phew. Good to know. Hekate Mar 2022 #20
It was subtle, backing away from an near certainty to just a possibility. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #22
This Russian invasion definitely makes Russia's military appear wildly over-rated. Jim__ Mar 2022 #4
The Russian military is at their best when it comes to defeating a foe by entirely razing a city. Martin68 Mar 2022 #7
Excellent point. bluewater Mar 2022 #11
Hard to do that when your logistics and leadership are so poor. Nevertheless, point taken. nt artemisia1 Mar 2022 #23
Also remember at first Vlad was trying to "be nice" to his "brother slavs" bluewater Mar 2022 #24
It tooks us 19 days to get to Baghdad ONLY because of an aversion to taking casualties, artemisia1 Mar 2022 #27
Brilliant barb from Krugman. Martin68 Mar 2022 #6
Thanks Hekate, you did a great job Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #8
Thank you Hekate Mar 2022 #17
Also one of the greatest propaganda films ever made, Battleship Potemkin 2Gingersnaps Mar 2022 #21
I posted this article on Monday Mme. Defarge Mar 2022 #9
Thanks! It just showed up in my NYT spam and for a change I was able to read it... Hekate Mar 2022 #10
Solar power people! OMGWTF Mar 2022 #12
Wind too! 2Gingersnaps Mar 2022 #25
Russia may return to its former status BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #13
Not long after the USSR collapsed, Russians described their own country as "Upper Volta w/missles" eppur_se_muova Mar 2022 #16
Perhaps, once Putin is out, the west can negotiate Russian nuclear disarmament in exchange Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #18
10 year old Chinese tires will show how weak you have become. sarcasmo Mar 2022 #26

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
1. That is an awesome description. Perfect!
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 06:05 PM
Mar 2022

And he's right to point out that spring coming is a really helpful factor in our ability to hamstring Vlad.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
15. Probably not. This past week I read that a Cold War-type hotline from the Pentagon to ...
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 08:04 PM
Mar 2022

… whatever its equivalent in Russia is has been installed. That implies some layers of military.

Martin68

(22,791 posts)
7. The Russian military is at their best when it comes to defeating a foe by entirely razing a city.
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 06:56 PM
Mar 2022

Like they did in Chechnya. Subtlety is not their forte, but that was what was required in Ukraine.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
11. Excellent point.
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 07:12 PM
Mar 2022

The Russian military is structured for total war.
People can underestimate that at their own peril.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
24. Also remember at first Vlad was trying to "be nice" to his "brother slavs"
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 08:54 PM
Mar 2022

As for logistics and supplies, it took the US 19 days to take Baghdad, people seem to forget that.

Vlad's invasion is only in day #9 right now, and according to President Zelensky of Ukraine his country is in mortal danger and needs much more assistance immediately. I take him at his word.

It's one thing to mock Vlad and his army for morale purposes, but it is counterproductive to underestimated it's true destructive power when unleashed.

Cheers.



artemisia1

(756 posts)
27. It tooks us 19 days to get to Baghdad ONLY because of an aversion to taking casualties,
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:36 AM
Mar 2022

our own, not because we could not take it in less time. We also didn't have miles of convoys broken down or stopped (out of fuel, bad tires, etc.) like the Russians do. Yes, UKR IS in mortal peril, yes, the sheer quantity of Russian arms and troops makes this extremely dangerous. NO, there is NO comparison whatsoever to our Baghdad run.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
8. Thanks Hekate, you did a great job
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 07:05 PM
Mar 2022

But for those who read this just to find out what a Potemkin is.

It is a false or fake thing, like propaganda.

The origins of the word, from Russia no less, is from the stupid actions of royalty a Prince Grigory Aleksandrovich Potemkin-Tauricheski and war monger a favorite of Catherine the Great.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
21. Also one of the greatest propaganda films ever made, Battleship Potemkin
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 08:36 PM
Mar 2022

Director was Sergie Eisenstein, released in 1925, about a mutiny on a battleship because the crew was fed rotten meat for supper and the resulting riot led to the takeover of the ship, conveniently supporting revolt against power. Pretty limited release around the world if I'm not mistaken, a lot of copies were burned.

Synonymous with overblown and grand. Which was pretty much Potemkin, the army officer and lover of Catherine the Great's character. Excellent book on her, by Simon Dixon. She was a woman WAY ahead of her time. The last Czar was an inept autocrat, but Russia does have an incredibly rich history and what it has come to is a damn tragedy. They thought they were being "liberated" in 1917, it only went from bad to worse.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
13. Russia may return to its former status
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 07:27 PM
Mar 2022

Of a nation full of men wearing cardboard suits and riding concrete bicycles.

eppur_se_muova

(36,259 posts)
16. Not long after the USSR collapsed, Russians described their own country as "Upper Volta w/missles"
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 08:10 PM
Mar 2022

They knew what the real situation was. Under Yeltsin, they thought they were recovering. But corruption flourished, Yeltsin promoted Putin, Putin declined to expose Yeltsin after he left office, and the hoped-for recovery never came.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,585 posts)
18. Perhaps, once Putin is out, the west can negotiate Russian nuclear disarmament in exchange
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 08:28 PM
Mar 2022

For substantial economic aid.

Perhaps I’m dreaming, but if it takes awhile, and the sanctions are severe enough, the new Russian leaders might be willing to consider it.

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