Tweet of the Evening:

[applegrove]

Link to tweet

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[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. Indeed and in deed. . . . nt

[Karadeniz]

2. Tragic, but she is now in a very good place.

[Skittles]

9. no she's not, she is DEAD

it is tragic, PERIOD

[Karadeniz]

11. Welcome to your opinion.

[Skittles]

12. welcome to reality

DONE here

[ShazzieB]

15. Rude.

[erronis]

20. Just curious. Who's being rude here in your opinion?

The poster who said "Welcome to your opinion",
or the poster who said "welcome to reality"?

Both were dismissive of the other's viewpoint. Both seemed to have a valid point.

Why call them (or just one of them) rude?

I'm not wanting to add more kindling to this, but just want to know your reason for your unsupported comment.

[txwhitedove]

26. If it's war, why drag heaven or God into it? Now we say all the dead Ukrainians are in a

better place? Are the dead Russian soldiers in hell for trying to follow phony orders from a tyrant? I've seen Skittles on DU for at least 16 years. She seems down to earth but will kick your ass.

[monkeyman1]

27. bull-shit - republican's do it every damn day !

[txwhitedove]

28. Yep, that's been a big problem. But why the BS comment, cause I was nicely agreeing

with Skittles.

[littlemissmartypants]

53. Yes, indeed.

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[whathehell]

41. I'll take poster #2 for "rude". At least the first poster, unlike the second,

doesn't insist on being the final arbiter of "reality".

[ShazzieB]

44. Thanks for this.

We see to be on the same page. I just wish I could have expressed it half as economically as you just did!

[whathehell]

57. You're very welcome, ShazzeB!

and yes, I think we are on the same page. Back atcha.

[ShazzieB]

43. The poster who said "Welcome to reality."

The question of whether there is any sort of afterlife IS a matter of opinion. People may hold very strong opinions on the matter, but there is no way to prove empirically that there is or is not such a thing.

"Welcome to your opinion" was, imo, pointing out that this is a matter of opinion. Could this have been conveyed more tactfully? Sure, but the previous comment was not especially tactful, either.

"Welcome to reality" takes things a step further by implying that the existence of an afterlife is NOT a matter of opinion and "If you disagree with what I'm saying, YOU don't know what reality is." That is untrue, in addition to being dismissive, and, yes, rude.

It's simply incorrect to state categorically that an unprovable proposition is established fact. To do so in a way that implies anyone who doesn't see it the way you do crosses the line into rudeness, imo. What is or isn't rude is somewhat subjective, but that is how I see it.

I am REALLY not interested in arguing about whether that comment was rude. I see it as rude and recognize that not everyone will agree. I'm even less interested in arguing about the existence of an afterlife, as I find it an exercise in futility to argue about something that is, by its very nature, unprovable.

[padah513]

19. Damn Skittles...

[erronis]

22. I like skittles (even tho I have no idea of who it is.)

Seemed like good acerbic response.

[aka-chmeee]

52. I Stand with Ukraine

and bow to Skittles.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

18. +1

🤬

[SunSeeker]

32. +2

[Ferrets are Cool]

37. With you on this one.

No, she is NOT in a good place now.

[58Sunliner]

47. +1,000 She's murdered, but it's ok now. Oh, except maybe to her family and friends

[whopis01]

49. You are (of course) 100% correct

And do not deserve the blowback you are getting in this thread.

I find it repulsive that anyone would try to push a "silver lining" in the story of this woman who was murdered by the Russian forces. Especially when that "silver lining" is saying that she is better off dead. Sickening.

[littlemissmartypants]

54. You're not wrong. Various responses to murder are understandable.

Some see horror and get angry. Others see an opportunity to proselytize.

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[Pacifist Patriot]

56. Thank you

This better place shit is pissing me off. Alive and safe is better off. Dead is dead.

[erronis]

16. Please ask her if she is now in a very good place.

And ask yourself if you'd also like to be there.

What a ridiculous way to belittle someone's life. Anybody that is killed/murdered: It's OK - they're in a good place.

[Karadeniz]

17. I don't have to ask myself. I've been there. We'll have to agree to disagree.

[Gore1FL]

25. Jesus? Is that you? nt

[SunSeeker]

33. ...

[whathehell]

40. Um, erronis?..Karadeniz did acknowledge the tragedy..

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but this is NOT the Atheists & Agnostics forum, and expressing a belief in an afterlife does not "belittle" someone's life.

[wendyb-NC]

3. That breaks my heart

[hlthe2b]

13. Wrenching. I can only hope there is a realm for her and the beloved dogs & pets

she could not save.

[SheltieLover]

4. ...

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[NBachers]

5. She looks like she could be my sister - or my daughter.

[mcar]

6. ...

[Mr.Bill]

7. There sure are some beautiful

people in Ukraine. Both inside and out.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

29. And Poland too.

They are showing phenomenal live for the Ukrainians now.

[Tommymac]

8. Martyrs for Freedom 🕯️

Link to tweet

[brer cat]

10. Remember her name.

Anastasiia Yalanskaya

[NoMoreRepugs]

14. I literally cannot think of anything to say other than

my heart hurts for this beautiful courageous young lady.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

21. SAY HER NAME! Anastasiia Yalanskaya. SAY IT LOUD.

🤬

[Mr. Ected]

23. A world that allows Anastasiia Yalanskaya to die without condemning Vladimir Putin to the same fate

Is fucked up in ways that are breaking my heart.

The people always suffer for the crimes of a megalomaniac, but the world's people are drawing closer each day and the thought of imaginary boundaries and self-declared dictators is becoming less and less relevant.

[BobTheSubgenius]

24. The Hague should be overflowing by the time this is over.

It won't be, but it should.

[monkeyman1]

30. any more it's like getting a parking ticket !

THEY SAME WAY THE D.O.J. IS WORKING ! I'll get 403 'd now !

[BobTheSubgenius]

51. I'm very much inclined to give the DOJ time to build the case.

Better air-tight than quick.

OTOH, I can certainly respect that some of its history doesn't leave everyone sanguine about the outcome.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

31. I'd be okay locking them in Rikers.

Chances are good they wouldn't last long.

[BobTheSubgenius]

50. No, they probably wouldn't.

All the individuals that are accountable for this atrocity are The Usual Suspects. Rich, old, white men.

One in particular, of course, but he has his stooges.

[Schmice3]

34. If she hadn't been young beautiful and caucasian,

but instead, short, darker, and edgy, would the world mourn the same or pledge to right that wrong?
I don't know...........

[L. Coyote]

35. I keep seeing this talking point from pro-Putin trolls on Twitter.

Delete your post.

[Schmice3]

58. I'm hardly a Putin troll.

That's harsh. Why should I delete my post? It's true and you know it. To demand that I delete it is actually Putinesque. Your own assertion seems to be devoid of any real analysis. Perhaps I missed it.

[applegrove]

36. I think there is just so much social media that so many individual

stories are getting out. It helps that so many speak English. Stories of people who have the same careers and ordered lives as we do. They live in tall apartment buildings. They have shelters for dogs. At every turn there is something that could very much be out of our own lives that is lost. I can last an hour on Ukrainian news. I can't watch a second on Yemeni news as children there are starving. That is the difference for me.

[calimary]

38. When you have to keep tabs on it for your work, you develop

temporary blinders. Just so you can stay focused.

John Lennon was killed on a Monday night, back when I was working for a network catering to rock stations. It was THE story. There was NO other news that week on that format. We cranked on it all week. It took me til that Friday to cry.

[applegrove]

39. Awe. I did that when I worked as a receptionist at a magazine

on Mondays. Someone was killed by falling ice. I answered the phone all day and there were lots of people who knew her much better than I who took the calls from the writing community. The women who died was very close to the editor. The writing community was small in Ottawa. The phone rang all day with condolescences. I went out for lunch with a friend who was very close to the writer. Me and another woman tried to help her process because she was young. At some point the editor couldn't take any more calls and asked me to take messages. The afternoon went on and on. The editor got her second wind. She had been a mentor to the writer for years. The writer had blossomed late in life and was finally doing what she was born to do. I went home and cried and cried to my mom. It was so sad and shocking. And so hard to be around people in such pain. And so difficult to have a 38 year old colleague just disappear off this earth. I've since been through much harder things. But know the feeling of trying to be strong for others who are shocked and devastated.

[Ziggysmom]

42. Can't hold back the tears. In her honor may we hug our own fur babies that much tighter

today and whisper her name in their ears?

And damn Putin to hell for causing her death!

[XacerbatedDem]

45. Anastasiia Yalanskaya stayed behind to volunteer in the midst of war...

...and lost her life taking supplies to help feed dogs who had been out of food for 3 days. What a beautiful soul!!!

RESPECT

[housecat]

46. She is a kind and brave human being. No need to argue over irrelevancies.

[58Sunliner]

48. My heart goes out to her family and friends. This is horrific.

[littlemissmartypants]

55. For Anastasiia...

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