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A Ukrainian Fable by David Horsey (Original Post) Solly Mack Mar 2022 OP
Horsey is very good & the fable is quite apt. nt Hekate Mar 2022 #1
Kick dalton99a Mar 2022 #2
Kick orangecrush Mar 2022 #3
😢 blm Mar 2022 #4
Missing the part of the fable where the snake can press a button and kill everybody localroger Mar 2022 #5
Also missing gratuitous Mar 2022 #6
Yep, all that localroger Mar 2022 #7

localroger

(3,622 posts)
5. Missing the part of the fable where the snake can press a button and kill everybody
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 11:43 PM
Mar 2022

...including of course the boy, Horsey, you, me, and everyone else. Maybe it's not so much a snake as it is a dragon? But no, then everyone would think the metaphor is about China. Things are so complicated.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Also missing
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 12:13 AM
Mar 2022

A mission and an exit strategy. Is it enough to kick Russian troops out of Ukraine? Would Russian troops be pursued on Russian soil? Does Russia's ability to launch a military offensive have to be blunted? How blunt? How would the U.S. or NATO know they've "won"? How long will it take? How much will it cost, and who pays for it besides the U.S. taxpayers?

localroger

(3,622 posts)
7. Yep, all that
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 12:33 AM
Mar 2022

The No Fly Zone would be a great gesture but a terrible tactical move. I understand why Z wants planes but those too are easily traced to their origin and supplying them might become an "act of war." But more effective, cheaper, and easier is to flood the place with man-portable anti-aircraft missiles. Which appears to be our strategy, and if so it's a good one. This gives the Ukrainians a way to keep their airspace dangerous enough to the enemy to be a big deterrent without putting anyone else's flags out there. It does not benefit anyone, least of all the Ukrainians, if Putin manages to find a good enough pretext to start lobbing nukes.

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