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Quixote1818

(28,955 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 12:49 PM Mar 2022

Vladimir Putin may have cancer, according to ex-military intelligence officer

ByJohn WardNisha Mal
14:33, 6 MAR 2022UPDATED14:37, 6 MAR 2022

A former military intelligence officer now working at the Pentagon said analysts have been studying Putin and believe he is gravely ill

Vladimir Putin may be seriously ill, a former intelligence officer now working for the Pentagon claims. The unnamed source says Russia's president has terminal bowel cancer.

It is believed Putin's “puffy face” is a sign he is having chemotherapy or on steroids. The source also suggests that his solemn expression is because he is in constant pain.

This could have made him more aggressive or he may be attacking Ukraine as he knows he is dying and wants to leave a legacy, the source claims. The former officer said analysts have been studying Putin, 69, and believe he is gravely ill.

Link: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/vladimir-putin-cancer-according-ex-23304532

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Vladimir Putin may have cancer, according to ex-military intelligence officer (Original Post) Quixote1818 Mar 2022 OP
Hope it's incapacitating EYESORE 9001 Mar 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Mar 2022 #8
Nope EYESORE 9001 Mar 2022 #16
Are these the same people who told us Kim Jong Un was comatose and Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #2
Good Bettie Mar 2022 #3
Not mean at all. It's what he deserves. FoxNewsSucks Mar 2022 #5
I miss when I used to believe in the basic decency of most humans Bettie Mar 2022 #9
I'd like to say something encouraging in response, FoxNewsSucks Mar 2022 #29
Unfortunately when society doesn't stop the monsters, Horse with no Name Mar 2022 #82
That is the problem with belief in decency these days Bettie Mar 2022 #95
I've suspected and been saying this cilla4progress Mar 2022 #4
Who subsequently had a meeting with a bunch of flight attendants that he sat directly next to. Native Mar 2022 #11
??? cilla4progress Mar 2022 #19
That video was shown to have been green screened. Hugin Mar 2022 #22
Do you have a link? IL Dem Mar 2022 #30
Here. Hugin Mar 2022 #33
Here's a good post on the video: gldstwmn Mar 2022 #96
It wasn't blogslug Mar 2022 #32
Interestingly the tweet appears to be gone. Hugin Mar 2022 #34
His hand didn't pass through solid objects. LisaL Mar 2022 #45
Did you read the article I provided? blogslug Mar 2022 #46
Correct. OnDoutside Mar 2022 #53
I agree EndlessWire Mar 2022 #35
Then why was he shoulder to shoulder with Flight attendents? ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2022 #44
Because it's propaganda. n/t EndlessWire Mar 2022 #47
That's his harem. They've been quarantined since the start of the covid crisis. hunter Mar 2022 #48
I thought it was the 2022 Sparrow class. gldstwmn Mar 2022 #91
If he were truly afraid of germs immunocompromised etc Meowmee Mar 2022 #94
Scary if true Azathoth Mar 2022 #6
Be a shame if some Dr. or nurse gave him the wrong shot or the wrong stuff in his IV or the .... Botany Mar 2022 #7
Would the Kremlin even announce it if it happened? leftieNanner Mar 2022 #56
I am sure that there are people in wnylib Mar 2022 #69
Maybe something radioactive or whatever he gave to Navalny. n/t momta Mar 2022 #58
It's really hard to know if this is true fescuerescue Mar 2022 #10
If this is just to mess with Vlad, bowel cancer is a fine choice. BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #27
When has he not had a solemn expression? Hugin Mar 2022 #12
His expression looked pretty smug and satisfied FoxNewsSucks Mar 2022 #31
True. Hugin Mar 2022 #36
For one, the Helsinki conference with TFG sarge43 Mar 2022 #72
It takes a special kind of sick to take pleasure in kicking your own dog. Hugin Mar 2022 #80
The defining trait of a psychopath n/t sarge43 Mar 2022 #85
Maybe that's why he is sitting 20 feet from people. fightforfreedom Mar 2022 #13
I'd like to see some other confirmation of this.... Bayard Mar 2022 #14
The Daily Star is a tabloid dalton99a Mar 2022 #20
maybe he should make peace with God. samsingh Mar 2022 #15
My mother always told us Jilly_in_VA Mar 2022 #17
Yeah, Piet Hein EndlessWire Mar 2022 #40
If that's the case... Salviati Mar 2022 #61
But what if it is someone wnylib Mar 2022 #75
Poor dictator dweller Mar 2022 #18
A "mercy killing." wnylib Mar 2022 #73
Logical assessment. littlemissmartypants Mar 2022 #21
Oh, he's leaving a legacy alright. Baitball Blogger Mar 2022 #23
If he's dying, he may feel he has nothing left to lose NickB79 Mar 2022 #24
Baseless, wishful thinking Miguelito Loveless Mar 2022 #25
Well EndlessWire Mar 2022 #42
His face looks like my aunt's did wnylib Mar 2022 #79
If he has pancreatic cancer EndlessWire Mar 2022 #81
My aunt's face bloated from the meds wnylib Mar 2022 #83
Well, I agree. EndlessWire Mar 2022 #84
I share that wish, sooner the better. wnylib Mar 2022 #89
But I would bdamomma Mar 2022 #93
This is the same guy who murdered countless people and invaded Georgia and Crimea dalton99a Mar 2022 #26
I look forward to the autopsy report. Iterate Mar 2022 #28
I will watch it on Reelz. Hugin Mar 2022 #39
Sounds like he's Breaking Vlad tinrobot Mar 2022 #37
As a Christian, I hope he seeks forgiveness and stops. hamsterjill Mar 2022 #38
If Russians are still obeying his every order DFW Mar 2022 #41
Heres what happens in end stage colon cancer- milestogo Mar 2022 #43
poor bubalah - what he needs is some of grandma putin's special "sweet" tea.... getagrip_already Mar 2022 #49
When Putin dies, who goes as US rep to the funeral? TDFG? One of the GQP senators? NCjack Mar 2022 #50
This was my first question when hearing people trying to analyze his actions. bullimiami Mar 2022 #51
Blah blah blah bullshit. maxsolomon Mar 2022 #52
Yawn ... more "experts" guessing luv2fly Mar 2022 #54
i was thinking the same thing certainot Mar 2022 #55
GOOD!!! I hope it is PAINFUL as fuck!!! Raster Mar 2022 #57
That I really believe. Trying to bring back his beloved USSR before he dies. LiberalArkie Mar 2022 #59
So he has to inflict his butt-hurt on the rest of the world. momta Mar 2022 #60
My deepest sympathies to the cancer... lastlib Mar 2022 #62
In this case, I am on cancer's side world wide wally Mar 2022 #63
When and if he expires ... lpbk2713 Mar 2022 #64
Good! DemUnleashed Mar 2022 #65
I wish this were true but I doubt it. His puffy face is due to anti-wrinkle fillers. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #71
IOW he may have nothing to lose by launching WWIII. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #67
Sure would be Traildogbob Mar 2022 #68
I do not see this speculative story on any respected news site. This sounds like another rumor. Ford_Prefect Mar 2022 #70
That would explain it. Lady Freedom Returns Mar 2022 #74
...autopsy report...and even then...? I trust nuttin'. nt Lucid Dreamer Mar 2022 #76
I hope his cancer doctor gives him a shot of "something" KS Toronado Mar 2022 #77
If only it were true! Ziggysmom Mar 2022 #78
This is being reported in the British tabloids LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #86
Curious changes in Putin's appearance pointed out by former CIA agent when asked about his health LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #87
More like bowel cancer developing a terminal case of Putin n/t Silent3 Mar 2022 #88
let his bdamomma Mar 2022 #90
If true, and if he has months or longer to live, then he's much more dangerous now because highplainsdem Mar 2022 #92

Response to EYESORE 9001 (Reply #1)

Wingus Dingus

(8,058 posts)
2. Are these the same people who told us Kim Jong Un was comatose and
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 12:52 PM
Mar 2022

on his death bed? Cause that dude is still here.

Bettie

(16,117 posts)
3. Good
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 12:53 PM
Mar 2022

I hope he's in constant pain and never has another good day before he dies. Hopefully it will be soon.

Wow, that seems mean, but he's a monster.

Bettie

(16,117 posts)
9. I miss when I used to believe in the basic decency of most humans
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 12:58 PM
Mar 2022

that we were all working for basically the same end, but had different ideas of how to get there and that there were few actually evil people in the world.

Yes, I used to believe that.

Now, I believe that a whole lot more ugly, nasty people than I ever could have imagined.

I am not even sure that the basically good people outnumber the evil ones. I hope so, but it isn't really looking that way lately.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
29. I'd like to say something encouraging in response,
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:14 PM
Mar 2022

but I can't. I agree completely with that. I know there are good decent people, and appreciate them. But they're outnumbered. Possibly by evil greedy people, definitely by the combined numbers of the "evil greedy" and the indifferent and manipulable.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
82. Unfortunately when society doesn't stop the monsters,
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 04:24 PM
Mar 2022

We have to root for basic physiology.
Does it mean we wish ill on all cancer patients? Of course not but if this is the only path to justice, then so be it.

Bettie

(16,117 posts)
95. That is the problem with belief in decency these days
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 06:51 PM
Mar 2022

the monsters seem to get away with everything.

No one in power seems to want any consequences for those monsters.

So, they run amok.

cilla4progress

(24,759 posts)
4. I've suspected and been saying this
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 12:54 PM
Mar 2022

He acts like a person living on borrowed time., with no future, suicidal. Any loved ones are safely tucked away in western Europe.

Those long tables...he is immunocompromised.

His puffy grey face is also a tell.

I guess we shall see.

Hugin

(33,177 posts)
22. That video was shown to have been green screened.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:03 PM
Mar 2022

His hand repeatedly waving through a microphone.

blogslug

(38,007 posts)
32. It wasn't
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:18 PM
Mar 2022
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/no-that-putin-video-didnt-use-a-green-screen-misinformation/

Granted, it was weird. As some have said it looked like the thing was filmed in an underground pool with a ton of potted plants, teapots for everybody and non-threatening young women who (I'm assuming) he thought made him look virile yet sympathetic. It was staged as hell but no computerized special effects.

Hugin

(33,177 posts)
34. Interestingly the tweet appears to be gone.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:24 PM
Mar 2022

However. His hand clearly passed through solid objects.

Now if that manipulation was performed by Kremlin sources or after release is up to the viewer’s discretion.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
45. His hand didn't pass through solid objects.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:48 PM
Mar 2022

It only appeared so because video was of poor quality.

EndlessWire

(6,552 posts)
35. I agree
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:25 PM
Mar 2022

He does look puffy and grey. I thought it was just that his recent pictures are of an older Putin, but he does look downright ill now. And, those long tables aren't for protection from bullets. That's social distancing because he is afraid of germs, or the virus.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
44. Then why was he shoulder to shoulder with Flight attendents?
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:42 PM
Mar 2022

The other day explaining his invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇦 to them if he was so afraid of germs?

hunter

(38,322 posts)
48. That's his harem. They've been quarantined since the start of the covid crisis.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 02:02 PM
Mar 2022

They've got all sorts of costumes down there in Putin's bunker. The stewardess costumes were deemed more appropriate for this propaganda video than the Nazi SS officer costumes or the black latex.

Or so I've heard....


Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
94. If he were truly afraid of germs immunocompromised etc
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 05:54 PM
Mar 2022

He would not meet in person with anyone and or would wear a high quality mask. It could be he is delusional about it. He looks not great but he does not look like he is terminal imo.

Botany

(70,551 posts)
7. Be a shame if some Dr. or nurse gave him the wrong shot or the wrong stuff in his IV or the ....
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 12:58 PM
Mar 2022

... wrong pill. The world can't wait for nature to run its course he needs to be dead or in a
coma today.

leftieNanner

(15,137 posts)
56. Would the Kremlin even announce it if it happened?
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:15 PM
Mar 2022

Does he even have a second-in-command?

Scary stuff.

wnylib

(21,555 posts)
69. I am sure that there are people in
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:40 PM
Mar 2022

the Russian government and among the oligarchs who benefit from him who are vying for the position of replacing him. Maybe they have already chosen his replacement. Maybe they will resort to some crime family style fighting to control which of them replaces him.

Well, he did say that he wanted to be "president" for life. It's like a genie granting a wish but not saying how long that life will be.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
10. It's really hard to know if this is true
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 12:58 PM
Mar 2022

It could just be propaganda to decrease Russian confidence.

Hopefully it is true, but war is full of lies, you gotta take everything with a grain of salt.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
31. His expression looked pretty smug and satisfied
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:18 PM
Mar 2022

after every meeting with his puppet, MF45. Then it went back to solemn.

sarge43

(28,942 posts)
72. For one, the Helsinki conference with TFG
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:44 PM
Mar 2022

He had put the POTUS on a short leash and owned him. For a thug that had terrified and beaten far better men than TFG, this was his crowning achievement. Not that it was that difficult.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
13. Maybe that's why he is sitting 20 feet from people.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 12:59 PM
Mar 2022

If he is sick, he would be protecting himself from covid in this manner.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,991 posts)
17. My mother always told us
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:02 PM
Mar 2022

when we were kids, that it was wrong to pray against someone, but it was okay to pray for God to deal with them as they should be dealt with.

May God deal with Putin as God sees fit to deal with him. Amen.

EndlessWire

(6,552 posts)
40. Yeah, Piet Hein
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:30 PM
Mar 2022

had a grook about this, wherein he said something like (can't find my grook book at the moment) it wasn't okay to (hurt) someone, but it was okay to wish him to the devil. Heavily paraphrased, but similar lesson.

wnylib

(21,555 posts)
75. But what if it is someone
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:52 PM
Mar 2022

committing mass murder? Then wanting his demise is an expression of defense.

If you are in a crowd and someone starts shooting, you are justified in stopping that person, even If it means killing him. If you are not in the crowd bring murdered, but are witnessing it, is it morally wrong to want him dead if that is the only way to protect his victims?

littlemissmartypants

(22,722 posts)
21. Logical assessment.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:02 PM
Mar 2022

I'm going to add that if he's taking pain medication, those medications are capable of causing psychosis, paranoia and even hallucinations at varying doses.

None of this, of course, is a good thing.

🌻🇺🇦❤🇺🇦🌻

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
24. If he's dying, he may feel he has nothing left to lose
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:04 PM
Mar 2022

And wants to settle old scores before he goes.

Hopefully not "out with a bang".

EndlessWire

(6,552 posts)
42. Well
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:34 PM
Mar 2022

he looks AWFUL. Is he staying up nights drinking vodka in front of a maneuvering board? That might do it, sleepless nights trying to figure why his invasion isn't going well, why the Ukrainians are just so danged clever? He looks very puffy.

wnylib

(21,555 posts)
79. His face looks like my aunt's did
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:56 PM
Mar 2022

before she died of pancreatic cancer.

But, maybe he does not have cancer. Maybe he is bloated from steroids that he has used in his obsession with looking like a strong man who works out.

EndlessWire

(6,552 posts)
81. If he has pancreatic cancer
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 04:12 PM
Mar 2022

his timeline is short.

He could also have arthritis being treated with drugs that suppress the immune system. This would also account for his reluctance to be near other people, although this is not necessary.

wnylib

(21,555 posts)
83. My aunt's face bloated from the meds
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 04:45 PM
Mar 2022

that she was taking, not from the cancer, so Putin's puffy face does not necessarily come from cancer.

My guess is that he took so many steroids for body building that the steroids are causing the puffiness. But now, because of the steroids, he is also immunocompromised in the age of covid.

EndlessWire

(6,552 posts)
84. Well, I agree.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 04:58 PM
Mar 2022

My guess is that he has rheumatoid arthritis and is being treated for that. Also, prednisone can do this to you, although you are not supposed to take it long term. You take that for arthritis in the beginning, then switch to something else.

But, since I committed the sin of wishing this bastard dead, I might as well cross my fingers that he will drop dead of something.

Hugin

(33,177 posts)
39. I will watch it on Reelz.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:28 PM
Mar 2022

Right after the special on what really happened to the cast of Honey Boo Boo.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
38. As a Christian, I hope he seeks forgiveness and stops.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:28 PM
Mar 2022

As a realist, I don’t have much hope for that. But the prospect of death does things to a person. One never knows another’s relationship with a higher power.

Now, all that said - if his death will save countless other lives, then I am a firm believer that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.

DFW

(54,426 posts)
41. If Russians are still obeying his every order
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:34 PM
Mar 2022

It doesn't matter if has has AIDS, Covid, Radiation sickness, and leprosy combined.

Until he no longer has the capacity to command people to do what he wants, he remains the same dangerous character he is now.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
43. Heres what happens in end stage colon cancer-
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 01:37 PM
Mar 2022

Symptoms at the end of life can include periods of confusion, agitation, and even hallucinations. Your loved one may see insects in the room, angels, or even people that you cannot see. They may not recognize you or may seem upset and out of sorts for no apparent reason.

getagrip_already

(14,816 posts)
49. poor bubalah - what he needs is some of grandma putin's special "sweet" tea....
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 02:04 PM
Mar 2022

Maybe some chicken soup made with some special herbs.

bullimiami

(13,101 posts)
51. This was my first question when hearing people trying to analyze his actions.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 02:21 PM
Mar 2022

If he has a terminal illness all bets are off.

maxsolomon

(33,357 posts)
52. Blah blah blah bullshit.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 02:28 PM
Mar 2022

Wales Online contributing to the misinformation overload. Which is exactly what Russia's cyberwar wants.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
54. Yawn ... more "experts" guessing
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 02:58 PM
Mar 2022

Kind of like all the "experts" guessing Trump may be indicted any day now.

DemUnleashed

(633 posts)
65. Good!
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:28 PM
Mar 2022

If true, spill the dirt on Trump, Republican politicians, and our right wing news media before you go!

If you do that, maybe your legacy will go up a tiny, tiny, tiny bit!

SunSeeker

(51,620 posts)
66. I wish this were true but I doubt it. His puffy face is due to anti-wrinkle fillers.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:29 PM
Mar 2022

Putin has been getting face injections for decades to smooth out his wrinkles so that he doesn't look old.

Problem is, injecting too much Restylane or doing fat transfer injections in your face makes your face look stolen and lumpy.

This Australian cosmetic surgeon explains it, showing Putin's botched filler work over the years.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/sydney-cosmetic-doctor-claims-vladimir-putin-has-had-too-much-filler/news-story/9d3134a6911a5d5e65545480cd686acd

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #66)

Traildogbob

(8,788 posts)
68. Sure would be
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:38 PM
Mar 2022

Easy enough to switch out the chemo drip to pure plutonium from his stash. I am all for hurry up and die for GQP anti Vax, hoax assholes, but no where near the hurry up the world wants on this evil shit. Cancer has had a way to skip over the most evil people and take our best. Hope he suffers horribly while he waits.

Ford_Prefect

(7,914 posts)
70. I do not see this speculative story on any respected news site. This sounds like another rumor.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:40 PM
Mar 2022

The Sun and other Murdoch outlets have it.

I'm not calling it 100% BS but have no reason to think that it isn't at the least wishful thinking.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
74. That would explain it.
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:50 PM
Mar 2022

He came into power with a promise to bring back the (arguably) glory of Russia as in the way it was when it was the USSR.

If he does have cancer then the time is short to make his dreams a reality.

KS Toronado

(17,291 posts)
77. I hope his cancer doctor gives him a shot of "something"
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 03:54 PM
Mar 2022

that puts him to sleep forever, and ends this war.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,462 posts)
86. This is being reported in the British tabloids
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 05:03 PM
Mar 2022

I am doubtful given these sources

Putin has been acting odd lately and his face is puffed out.

Here is the front page of one of these tabloids


LetMyPeopleVote

(145,462 posts)
87. Curious changes in Putin's appearance pointed out by former CIA agent when asked about his health
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 05:07 PM
Mar 2022

Putin has changed https://www.rawstory.com/putin-2656798686/




"Well, here's what French President Emmanuel Macron said recently about Putin, and it was reported in the Wall Street Journal," host Witt prompted. "That 'Mr. Macron noticed a change in Mr. Putin's demeanor when speaking to him on the phone over the course of the pandemic. He tended to talk in circles, rewriting history, a close aide to Mr. Macron said. if you look at the video of Putin talking to leaders across those long tables.' What does all this suggest to you, the level of isolation that he has endured due to his paranoia about Covid? "

"I completely agree with that," Walder replied. "That is one thing that I have noticed lately, even -- and I know this sounds superficial -- but if you really just look at pictures of him, which I tend to do quite a bit, the shape of his face has even changed. He looks different, he speaks differently, and he's crossed over to what I think I consider to be almost the dark side of history."

"Look, Putin was never a friend, if you will, but most of the things that he was doing was really sort of cyber, psychological operations, those kinds of things," she added. "Now he's really crossed over sort of that red line into, you know, this full military warfare, but then part of me wonders if we should be this surprised."

highplainsdem

(49,020 posts)
92. If true, and if he has months or longer to live, then he's much more dangerous now because
Sun Mar 6, 2022, 05:35 PM
Mar 2022

he'll be focused on a legacy of restoring, or starting to restore, a Soviet Union or imperial Russia.

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