The Democratic Socialists of America reaffirms its call for the US to withdraw from NATO,

[pnwmom]

and blames the US for the Ukraine attack, saying that the US's " imperialistic expansionism ... set the stage" for Russia's war on Ukraine.

I hope no one here ever takes that party seriously again.

ON UPDATE: Does anyone know if Bernie Sanders has disassociated himself from the party's statement on Ukraine? He still has a donation link for the Democratic Socialists of America on his website.


https://www.dsausa.org/statements/on-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/


On Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine
FEBRUARY 26, 2022
The Democratic Socialists of America condemns Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and demands immediate diplomacy and de-escalation to resolve this crisis. We stand in solidarity with the working classes of Ukraine and Russia who will undoubtedly bear the brunt of this war, and with antiwar protestors in both countries and around the world who are calling for a diplomatic resolution.

This extreme and asymmetrical escalation is an illegal act under the United Nations Charter and severely threatens the livelihoods and well-being of working-class peoples in Ukraine, Russia, and across the region. We urge an immediate ceasefire and the total withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukraine.

There is no solution through war or further intervention. This crisis requires an immediate international antiwar response demanding de-escalation, international cooperation, and opposition to unilateral coercive measures, militarization, and other forms of economic and military brinkmanship that will only exacerbate the human toll of this conflict.

DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict. We call on antiwar activists in the US and across the world to oppose violent escalations, demand a lasting diplomatic solution, and stress the crucial need to accept any and all refugees resulting from this crisis. Much of the next ten years are coming into view through this attack. While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative.

No war but class war.

https://berniesanders.com/get-involved/democratic-socialists-america/

NATIONAL
Democratic Socialists of America
The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist organization in the United States.

[ColinC]

1. ...

[DarthDem]

2. Oof

They are not reading the room very well.

[XiJung]

3. Keep talking dummys n/t

[sheshe2]

4. I have no words.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

5. Withdrawing from NATO only helps Putin

Link to tweet

[Cha]

11. Thanks.. I Rt that!

💙💛

[betsuni]

12. The idea that left-wing and right-wing populists will form an alliance and do class revolution.

[msongs]

6. next they'll call on france and britain to cancel the mutual defense pact with poland nt

[betsuni]

7. Moronic idea that U.S. set the stage for Russia, same as Democrats paved the way to Trump.

This idiot:

http://www.thenation.com/article/politics/michael-moore-how-democrats-paved-the-way-to-trump

[JohnSJ]

8. They sound a lot like trump don't they?

[Cha]

13. "NATO BAD RUSSIA GOOD"

Link to tweet

💙💛

[brush]

9. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, DSA. AOC needs to...

disassociate herself from this foolishness also. I have noticed she hasn't been calling herself a democratic socialist much lately after the flack she received from the House seats we lost in 2020 over the socialism issue.

[Hortensis]

10. A bunch of extremist types flooded in around 2015-16, catalyzed

by Sanders' presidential candidacy, to the great harm of the more rational socialist radicals at DSA. The Republican Party's enormously larger than the DSA of course, but both groups lost their souls to, or had them ripped out maybe, by radicalized hoards that have far more in common than not. The passions of both are energized, as always, by hope for destruction of the mainstreams that they imagine will clear the path to their power.

[TexasTowelie]

14. Rational socialist radicals?

[Celerity]

18. Hortensis is correct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Socialists_of_America#Early_history_and_leadership

Electoral politics and office-holding members

In electoral politics, the DSA was very strongly associated with Michael Harrington's position that "the left wing of realism is found today in the Democratic Party".

In its early years, the DSA opposed Republican presidential candidates by giving critical support to Democratic Party nominees like Walter Mondale in 1984. In 1988, the DSA enthusiastically supported Jesse Jackson's second presidential campaign. Since 1995, the DSA's position on American electoral politics has been that "democratic socialists reject an either-or approach to electoral coalition building, focused solely on a new party or on realignment within the Democratic Party". During the 1990s, the DSA gave the Clinton administration an overall rating of C-, "less than satisfactory".

The DSA's elected leadership has often seen working within the Democratic Party as necessary rather than forming or support third parties. That said, the DSA is very critical of the Democratic Party leadership, which the DSA argues is corporate-funded. The organization has stated:

Much of progressive, independent political action will continue to occur in Democratic Party primaries in support of candidates who represent a broad progressive coalition. In such instances, democratic socialists will support coalitional campaigns based on labor, women, people of color and other potentially anti-corporate elements. Electoral tactics are only a means for democratic socialists; the building of a powerful anti-corporate coalition is the end.

The DSA now has many far more destructive 'burn it all down, destroy the Dems too' forces in it, and the actual Communist (real Communists, even revanchist Stalinists) quotient has increased.

[Hortensis]

19. :) "MORE rational." George Orwell described most who

called themselves socialists as a collection of various types of oddballs and nutcases, but he was a thoughtful exception, and I've read a few things suggesting there were a couple or few at the DSA.

Not those who've flooded in. And more and more have been radicalized by malign operators and encouraged to find each other in already radical leaning groups like the poor DSA.

Fwiw, I've never known anyone prone to extremism who didn't have something wrong with his thinking; I'm not talking about people with different ideas here. Virtually by definition, radicals-to-extremists are increasingly dependent on delusions to sustain beliefs unsupportable by reality. We now also know a lot of these are LW authoritarians; tRumpists are RW authoritarians, but there are great similarities and some can be either or both depending.

“One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ‘Socialism’ and ‘Communism’ draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist, and feminist in England.” ~ Orwell in the mid-1930s (Not mentioned were all those whose neighbors had come to realize they might really someday kill them for their politics.)

[betsuni]

16. Those extremists were anti-Hillary, not pro-Sanders, mistake Sanders people made thinking

it had anything to do with policy and that white swing state voters were secretly democratic socialists. DSA, Our Revolution, Justice Democrats, are envious of how the Tea Party took over the Republican Party. Not going to happen with the Democratic Party.

[herding cats]

15. Ugh. Please, just don't.

I try very hard to be understanding and open to people, but this message, right now, rubs me wrong on so many levels.

Geopolitical realities just blow right over their heads.

[COL Mustard]

17. Talk about tone deaf

And on the wrong side of history. I wonder if the “Commie Lieutenant” is still with them.

[Hav]

20. When you horseshoe yourself all the way to Trump

It's interesting that when Trump and the DSA agree, it coincides with aligning with Russian interests and the weakening of Western alliances. Just a coincidence I guess.

[Walleye]

21. Great. The Republicans will use this against us in every campaign

We can protest but we’re not socialist till we’re blue in the face but these people are doing GOP’s work for them

[LizBeth]

22. Thank you pnwmom. I Asked a while ago about Sanders being a part of this

organization and heard crickets. I wasn't sure but can remember I was told by many Sanders claims to be a Democratic Socialist. He should have disassociated himself from this group at the start of this.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. Horseshoe Theory.

[peggysue2]

24. Ya think?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Folks where the horseshoe meet don't like when you bring it up

[Bucky]

27. They're completely different!!!

[Bucky]

26. Agree. Anyone that dumb has been hit over the head with a horseshoe...

...over and over

[lapucelle]

28. A DSA member is primarying Carolyn Maloney in NY-12

Carolyn Maloney is a Hard-Core Liberal

https://bit.ly/3sR5rpE

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Carolyn Maloney was a school teacher in east Harlem before she entered public service. In its most recent rankings, Maloney was ranked the third most effective member in the House by the Center for Effective Lawmaking.

https://thelawmakers.org/find-representatives#

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The 28 year old Democratic Socialist of America's financial disclosure document:

https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public_disc/financial-pdfs/2021/10039753.pdf

[Cha]

29. Poor Fucking Putin..

Link to tweet