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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 01:35 PM Mar 2022

'We want to win': Democrats face choice in key Senate race

John Fetterman was sitting, alone, in the corridor outside the hotel ballroom where Pennsylvania’s Democratic Party committee members were gathered, looking every bit like someone who didn’t belong there. Moments later, Fetterman — Pennsylvania’s sitting lieutenant governor — got trounced by more than 2 to 1 by U.S. Rep. Conor Lamb in the endorsement vote in the party’s primary race for U.S. Senate.

Not only did Fetterman come from the party’s progressive wing, but he is irreverent, blunt and, well, something to see. At 6 feet 8, he is tattooed and goateed, his head is clean shaven, and he is most often seen wearing shorts — even in winter — and casual work shirts. Fetterman leads in campaign fundraising and is also the only one in the race to have won a statewide campaign, or even run statewide.

But the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol stiffened the resolve among Democratic state committee members to vote for the candidate who is most electable in the November general election in this presidential battleground state, some Democrats say. For many, that means voting for Lamb, viewed as a more moderate, more conventional candidate with a resume that has more crossover appeal.

“Those of us in politics who are in the know, we want to win the Senate race, so we want to pick the most electable person statewide, and I think a lot of people agree that that person is Conor Lamb,” said Christina Proctor, the Democratic Party chair in Washington County. Lamb, 37, a clean-cut former federal prosecutor and ex-Marine, worked hard for months to win the party’s endorsement, coming up just short of the required two-thirds vote threshold after months of courting state committee members. Lamb has backing from the state party’s Latino Caucus, the National Organization for Women and the vast majority of building trades unions, plus Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney and Rich Fitzgerald, the chief executive of Allegheny County, which includes Pittsburgh.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/03/we-want-to-win-democrats-face-choice-in-key-senate-race.html

John Fetterman (left) and Conor Lamb (right)

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'We want to win': Democrats face choice in key Senate race (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 OP
Before I even opened this, I knew it was about PA Polybius Mar 2022 #1
Same Sympthsical Mar 2022 #7
There we go again. drray23 Mar 2022 #2
Lamb isn't safe...he will lose IMHO. And why does the left that I know like Lamb, he is way more to Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #6
PA lost a Congressional seat with the census BumRushDaShow Mar 2022 #8
We did, but Lamb's district Deminpenn Mar 2022 #11
Bingo. A fool's game. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #10
Fetterman is the better choice here. Dawson Leery Mar 2022 #3
Fetterman leads in the polls Deminpenn Mar 2022 #4
Agree! mvd Mar 2022 #9
Not true... I live near PA and know the facts. Fetterman has won statewide...Lamb never has. Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #5
Fetterman has a sizable lead in the polls and . . . peggysue2 Mar 2022 #12
Fetterman is a better choice vercetti2021 Mar 2022 #13

Sympthsical

(9,072 posts)
7. Same
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 03:07 PM
Mar 2022

Before reading, I knew it was this shit.

"We need someone who can win statewide! So, let's not choose the guy who's won statewide!"

Stellar reasoning here.

Some people and powers just want the most conservative Democrat possible. However, they can't be that naked about it. So they attempt this shit.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
2. There we go again.
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 01:45 PM
Mar 2022

Going for the "Safer" candidate will probably backfire. Fetterman has one big advantage, he has an order of magnitude more charisma than Conor Lamb. These days, it counts for something. Conor should hold onto his house seat, we need it. Fetterman can win the senate.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
6. Lamb isn't safe...he will lose IMHO. And why does the left that I know like Lamb, he is way more to
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 03:04 PM
Mar 2022

the right than Fetterman...sending Fetterman money and I live close enough to work the campaign as well. We need that seat.

BumRushDaShow

(128,846 posts)
8. PA lost a Congressional seat with the census
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 03:54 PM
Mar 2022

and it was his, so he chose not to run again in the reconfigured districts in Western PA.

IMHO, Fetterman has much more "national" and "statewide" recognizability and some of the issues he promotes are also cross-over faves with indie voters, such as legalization of recreational marijuana here (medical marijuana is legal already), where a survey last year reached a record number of Pennsylvanians supporting it -



There are claims that Lamb has been campaigning here in Philly (our mayor endorsed him for some reason) but I haven't heard of where.

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
11. We did, but Lamb's district
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 05:26 PM
Mar 2022

actually got bluer by picking up more of northern Allegheny county and losing it's section of Butler county.

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
4. Fetterman leads in the polls
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 02:54 PM
Mar 2022

and in fundraising. Schumer is also staying out of the primary.

The state Dem party is not particularly liberal. No surprise they'd prefer Lamb. Lamb is no more electable than McGinty was 6 years ago.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
9. Agree!
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 04:04 PM
Mar 2022

I think Fetterman could bring just as much cross over or more than Lamb does. I am voting for Fetterman but of course Lamb would get my support if he wins.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
5. Not true... I live near PA and know the facts. Fetterman has won statewide...Lamb never has.
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 03:02 PM
Mar 2022

In fact, Lamb barely won a House seat. If I could vote in PA, I would vote for Fetterman who is beloved by working guys, union guys...pretty much everyone but the left. I will donate to Fetterman. There are not enough votes to elect Lamb. Winning is not just everything...it is the only thing. I know Fetterman from the 2020 campaign. He is a great guy and can really win in a state like PA or even Ohio...of course Tim Ryan has pretty much the only chance here in Ohio.

https://triblive.com/local/regional/republican-sean-parnells-lead-over-u-s-rep-conor-lamb-shrinks-to-less-than-2000-votes/

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
12. Fetterman has a sizable lead in the polls and . . .
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 05:32 PM
Mar 2022

has amassed a huge war chest from grass-root donors from all over the state. I will vote for whoever wins the primary but Party leaders may find voters have a different idea on who can and cannot win.

Unless, they (Dem leadership) can make a reasonable argument on the 'why' of their decision, I don't see the electorate being moved. Is it because they fear the base won't support the blunt-talking Fetterman? Or something else? Something in his past, perhaps. Most have read about the incident with the AA jogger. Is that it? I've always thought John Fetterman would need to address this incident directly, head-on, and then see where the cards fall. I have yet to see a direct statement or explanation.

For myself, I hope we see debates between these two. Because I want to win, too, as do all Dems I know.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
13. Fetterman is a better choice
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 05:37 PM
Mar 2022

He is a tough guy and we need that in our party. We need a strong voice and someone who can resonate well with rural voters and this guy does.

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