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applegrove

(118,462 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 06:32 PM Mar 2022

Democrats Eye Manchin's Vote for Stalled Agenda

Democrats Eye Manchin’s Vote for Stalled Agenda

March 7, 2022 at 4:51 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 29 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/07/democrats-eye-manchins-vote-for-stalled-agenda/

"SNIP.......

“Democrats have begun to pick up the pieces of President Joe Biden’s stalled domestic agenda, working in concert with the White House to rebrand it as a push to cut costs for families and zero in on a package that can win the decisive vote of Sen. Joe Manchin, the mutinous West Virginia centrist,” NBC News reports.

......SNIP"

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Democrats Eye Manchin's Vote for Stalled Agenda (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2022 OP
Hey Dr. Einstein: what was your definition of insanity again? hlthe2b Mar 2022 #1
Einstein never said that. Voltaire2 Mar 2022 #7
really? Tickle Mar 2022 #8
... hlthe2b Mar 2022 #12
I don't know who's Tickle Mar 2022 #13
thus my own addition: "That witticism--I'll call it "Einstein Insanity"--is usually attributed to hlthe2b Mar 2022 #14
Manchin will always be a disruption.... nebby70 Mar 2022 #2
He just keeps changing the goal posts though Bev54 Mar 2022 #3
Good luck... regnaD kciN Mar 2022 #4
Mancinema are a tag team duo. Voltaire2 Mar 2022 #5
Manchin is no "centrist." He's a staunch conservadem...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #6
Who are the centrist Democrats? Emile Mar 2022 #9
Good question...I actually think that Pres Biden and VP Harris are pretty "centrist" Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #10
I hear ManChin came out with a plan today BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #11

hlthe2b

(102,112 posts)
1. Hey Dr. Einstein: what was your definition of insanity again?
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 06:35 PM
Mar 2022

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” That witticism—I'll call it “Einstein Insanity”—is usually attributed to Albert Einstein.

Voltaire2

(12,954 posts)
7. Einstein never said that.
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 08:18 PM
Mar 2022

It’s one of the many things Einstein never said.

Nor is it remotely the definition of insanity.

It might be an OCD symptom.

But yeah this fucking nuts.

Tickle

(2,488 posts)
8. really?
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 08:22 PM
Mar 2022

I had always heard the Einstein thing and used it.

Go figure!

I'll have to google now to find out who did say it

Tickle

(2,488 posts)
13. I don't know who's
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 06:55 AM
Mar 2022

arguing I found it interesting. I did google it and Einstein was being paraphrased by someone

hlthe2b

(102,112 posts)
14. thus my own addition: "That witticism--I'll call it "Einstein Insanity"--is usually attributed to
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:40 AM
Mar 2022

Albert Einstein"... I guess you didn't read that either.

FYI to you both: 1. "witticism" does not imply "literal definition"
2. "usually attributed to" does not equate to absolute certainty for the attribution.
3. attacking my post is rude and uncalled for--especially when claiming that which is not
included nor implied. To do the latter is dishonest.

nebby70

(471 posts)
2. Manchin will always be a disruption....
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 06:38 PM
Mar 2022

... keep in mind, his opinion is making higher ed affordable makes citizens moochers...
... there's nothing can be done with him...
... he does this to keep the spotlight....
... perhaps we promise he'll always have a megaphone even if he agrees with the Dems......

Bev54

(10,037 posts)
3. He just keeps changing the goal posts though
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 06:40 PM
Mar 2022

I think he is just being paid to stall or stop it and when they knock down one of his objections he just comes up with a new one. That is the question he needs to be asked. Are you going to stop this no matter what?

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
4. Good luck...
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 07:12 PM
Mar 2022

It should be obvious by now that Manchin doesn't negotiate in good faith...and, even if we can reach an agreement with him that he won't renege on as soon as it's introduced, odds are that Sinema will immediately oppose it.

Wounded Bear

(58,590 posts)
10. Good question...I actually think that Pres Biden and VP Harris are pretty "centrist"
Mon Mar 7, 2022, 08:37 PM
Mar 2022

overall. Most of the Biden agenda is widely popular when polled separately.

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