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Russia calls for return to 'peaceful co-existence' with U.S. like during Cold War -Interfax (Original Post) Swede Mar 2022 OP
"Let's pretend like nothing happened" dalton99a Mar 2022 #1
Typical of abusers. Beats up his wife, then demands an immediate return to normal. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #2
Exactly this. So that would be a big fat HELL NO! nt Phoenix61 Mar 2022 #8
Precisely! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #24
My vote would be NO. Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #3
Wow, that sounds desperate. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #4
Start with "peaceful coexistence" with your neighbor Ukraine... Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #5
Fuck no, that's not going to happen Historic NY Mar 2022 #6
As I've discussed since 2014... this is ALWAYS the strategy. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #7
I think he overplayed his hand when he started Phoenix61 Mar 2022 #12
How long do you think resolve holds? Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #13
Economic sanctions of this scale have never been levied against another country MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #14
I hope they work, don't get me wrong... Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #16
While my heart bleeds for the Ukrainian people, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #17
I doubt the WWIII scenario. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #18
... MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #21
Economic sanctions like this have never been tried before. Phoenix61 Mar 2022 #15
I hope you are correct. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #19
Reparations Muthaprucker. Reparations! Baitball Blogger Mar 2022 #9
Nuts Dirty Socialist Mar 2022 #10
Exactly! BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #22
What Is Notable... ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #11
To Putin: You step down first to be arrested for war crimes. ananda Mar 2022 #20
Too friggin' late, Vlad. You changed the rules, now you have to live with the consequences. nt Biophilic Mar 2022 #23
Totally cool with that as soon as they withdraw their troops from Georgia and Ukraine. Gore1FL Mar 2022 #25
When Putin is dead we can talk. moondust Mar 2022 #26

Irish_Dem

(46,579 posts)
2. Typical of abusers. Beats up his wife, then demands an immediate return to normal.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 10:41 AM
Mar 2022

She is supposed to cook dinner and clean the house with a broken arm and head injures.

Sometimes a guy beats up his wife then goes out and buys her gifts. Maybe Putin will try that tactic too.

Wounded Bear

(58,605 posts)
5. Start with "peaceful coexistence" with your neighbor Ukraine...
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 10:51 AM
Mar 2022

as in Get The Fuck Out of Ukraine and we'll start talking.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
6. Fuck no, that's not going to happen
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 10:54 AM
Mar 2022

Get rid of #Putin maybe a reconsideration. Meanwhile, enjoy the sanctions. до свидания

Happy Hoosier

(7,221 posts)
7. As I've discussed since 2014... this is ALWAYS the strategy.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 10:55 AM
Mar 2022

Russia will take what it can get and then Russia will attempt to stabilize relations and sanctions were fade.

It worked in Georgia. It worked in Crimea. Will it work here? Honestly, it he halted now and consolidated control of the territory he holds, I bet it would work. If he overplays his hand? Hard to say. But honestly, we already see resistance to Russian economic isolation.

Phoenix61

(16,994 posts)
12. I think he overplayed his hand when he started
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:48 AM
Mar 2022

bombing civilians. Unlike Crimea this invasion is being broadcast in real time everywhere. This isn’t being seen as a one off but as a world wide slide into fascism. I think this will fall under the 3 strikes you’re out rule. Bipartisan support for blocking Russian oil and gas shows strong support for Russian economic isolation.

Happy Hoosier

(7,221 posts)
13. How long do you think resolve holds?
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:51 AM
Mar 2022

Maybe this time is different, but again, economic sanctions have NEVER been effective in this kind of situation.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,264 posts)
14. Economic sanctions of this scale have never been levied against another country
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 12:00 PM
Mar 2022

by practically the whole world so, we'll know soon enough as Russia's economy implodes.

Happy Hoosier

(7,221 posts)
16. I hope they work, don't get me wrong...
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 12:03 PM
Mar 2022

But I have a feeling we are just condemning thousands of Ukrainians to die.

It's a tough situation.

Europe needs to ban Russian Energy imports. It'll be painful, but energy is Russia's primary income source.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,264 posts)
17. While my heart bleeds for the Ukrainian people,
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 12:06 PM
Mar 2022

and you are correct, many thousands of Ukrainians will die, direct combat with Russian forces will result, IMO, in many more millions of deaths.

Europe needs to ban Russian Energy imports. It'll be painful, but energy is Russia's primary income source.


I couldn't agree with you more.

Happy Hoosier

(7,221 posts)
18. I doubt the WWIII scenario.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 12:11 PM
Mar 2022

Russia has nothing to gain from such a scenario. But we're pursuing this course, and I ardently hope for its success.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,264 posts)
21. ...
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 12:14 PM
Mar 2022
I doubt the WWIII scenario.
Russia has nothing to gain from such a scenario.


I really, really, really pray and hope you're right.

But we're pursuing this course, and I ardently hope for its success.


100% agree.

Phoenix61

(16,994 posts)
15. Economic sanctions like this have never been tried before.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 12:01 PM
Mar 2022

When has a country closed it’s stock market in response to them? Countries, even Russia, are much more interdependent than they were decades ago. If the sanctions weren’t working there wouldn’t be any talk out of Moscow about negotiations.

Gore1FL

(21,104 posts)
25. Totally cool with that as soon as they withdraw their troops from Georgia and Ukraine.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 01:59 PM
Mar 2022

This includes, Crimea, and other contested areas, of course.

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