Higher Prices At The Pump? Bring It On.

[kpete]

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It boggles my mind that renewable energy is not a national security issue. The solution to any energy crisis seems always to be drill baby drill
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This is war, that means we all have to sacrifice doesn't it?

[RKP5637]

1. K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[LizBeth]

2. We liberals are being awfully callous in our dismissal of the poor, making

minimum wage, barely or not surviving the month to month. I checked the price of electric cars working to 40k cheapest. To dismiss so many that are suffering because of the increase is derelict in my opinion. Yes, it is a needed reality but I won't be dismissing the hurt and stress this is going to cause a lot of desperate people.

[Sherman A1]

3. Well, there is that, but

Some folks are on a roll ……..

[AZSkiffyGeek]

4. This gets overlooked a lot

Like what will happen to fossil fuel workers when we immediately cut that cord.
Or the insurance company employees who will be unemployed if we immediately switch to MFA.

[Miguelito Loveless]

5. Used EVs

are less than new ones. Used Chevy Volts, which are plug-in hybrids with 30-50 miles of electric range can be found for $10-18K. The electric range is sufficient for 80% of the average American's daily driving, and it still has gasoline as a backup for longer trips. A used Nissan Leaf (full EV) with 50-80 miles of range is an excellent commuter car (especially in a 2 car family) and I have seen ones for under $12K.

Fueling costs for EVs are the equivalent of $1.20-$2.00/gallon plus lower maintenance costs.

New EVs are still to expensive for a lot of people, but comparable to tricked out SUVs/pickups that I see folks of better means dropping $50K-$60K for. Today's expensive EV is tomorrow's cheaper used EV. Also, tax rebates transferable to car dealers would make EVs cheaper by $7500-$10K if we could just get infrastructure bills passed.

[Happy Hoosier]

8. Hmmmmm.....

I'd argue that cheap gas has slowed a transition to electric. Electric cars wouldn't be so expensive if there were more of them, woith supporting infrastructure, and lower end models.

Our vulnerability to oil dependence is a long-standing problem. And yeah, it hurts, but we apparently NEED economic pressures to make the transition.

[txwhitedove]

16. As a former poor mom who pushed a grocery cart home, there's ride share, bus, bike,

find other options. I worked my way up to dream car Prius only $26k new, gets 50 mpg.
There are used ones too.

[Bettie]

6. Oil companies have not even got production back up after 2020 when there was less demand

They lowered production 20% and have brought it up a little, but not back to the previous level.

So, they are choosing to have high prices because it is good for their bottom line.

They will keep prices high as long as they can and continue to price gouge. Gas stations also do it.

Fact is, there is no down side for them, they get more money AND they get to screw people.

[kpete]

9. Thank you Bettie for pointing the finger in the RIGHT direction -

& I like THIS idea-

Hey Republicans who (now) want to support Ukraine, how about a wealth tax on the top .1 percent to finance a tax break for middle and lower-income Americans to compensate for higher gas prices caused by imposing a ban on Russian oil?

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[Bettie]

10. I am sick to death of people acting as if the president has even

a little influence on the price of gas.

They don't. I didn't blame that orange pustule for higher gas prices when he was roosting in the white house and it certainly isn't Biden's fault.

And yeah, David Corn's got a good idea there.

I'm more radical though. Nationalize the industry. I'm tired of the entire country being run by a handful of really rich people who see screwing us over as a fun hobby.

[ForgedCrank]

7. This is a very

simplistic view of the effects this will produce. Even though the cost of a gallon of gas is a huge blow to 1/2 the country who were already living paycheck to paycheck, that will be a minor consideration very soon. This is going to have very deep reach on every market including food.
I have to tell you, right now I'm really scared for the first time. This is going to get very ugly and our way of life may be about to change dramatically.

[Sherman A1]

11. Precisely

But, the cheerleaders of higher gas ⛽️ prices fail to acknowledge that all goods going anywhere do so on the back of a truck that is powered by gas or diesel. They maybe wailing when their groceries go up as they most certainly will.

[ForgedCrank]

13. Yes, this is

very serious. This is going to cut deep, and it's going to affect everything. All resources revolve around energy, and that is thinking on a global scale too, not just how it affects US citizens.
I'll admit, Biden is in a damn tough spot, but this move has the potential of being catastrophic.
God help us all.

[FakeNoose]

12. They are GOUGING because they CAN

It's a crime what the oil companies are doing right now.

They're selling gasoline that was pumped and refined probably 6 months ago, at ridiculously inflated prices now, not because it costs more. No it didn't cost them 25% more to refine and sell this gasoline. They're charging more because they can. They're greedy and they want more profit.

Why are we paying it? Because we HAVE to.

I hope Joe Biden calls out these oil company profiteers, because they deserve to be called out.

[crickets]

14. +1

[MichMan]

15. 6 months? Where have they been storing it all ?

[lagomorph777]

17. It is certainly a reminder that fossil fools like Manchin are a national security liability.

We need to wean ourselves from the oil teat.