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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,711 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:09 PM Mar 2022

Troubling" details of how Trump probe broke down and led to resignation of prosecutors

"The New York Times" on Saturday published a detailed account of what led two prosecutors involved with the Manhattan district attorney's investigation into former President Donald Trump's business practices to abruptly resign last month—a "seismic development" that some experts had called "troubling."

The probe was launched under the former district attorney, Cyrus Vance Jr., who did not seek reelection. When prosecutors Carey Dunne and Mark Pomerantz resigned, the newspaper reported that it was because the new DA, Alvin Bragg, had concerns about moving forward with the case.

Following up on their initial reporting, a trio at the "Times" provided an "account of the investigation's unraveling, drawn from interviews with more than a dozen people knowledgeable about the events," which "pulls back a curtain on one of the most consequential prosecutorial decisions in U.S. history," given that Trump would be the first president to be criminally charged.




Ben Protess, William K. Rashbaum, and Jonah E. Bromwich laid out major developments in the probe and at the office from Vance's final days to the resignations—including a December 9 meeting of the former DA's "brain trust," the public relations "firestorm" Bragg faced over criminal justice reforms and high-profile shootings, and intense discussions between the new district attorney and the two prosecutors in January and February.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/revealed-troubling-details-of-how-trump-probe-broke-down-and-led-to-resignation-of-prosecutors/ar-AAUN3qF
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Troubling" details of how Trump probe broke down and led to resignation of prosecutors (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2022 OP
4 years of hard case work ended in a poof. Funny thing, that. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #1
This has zero to do with the DOJ obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #5
It's the same story over and over. Regardless of who is supposedly our white knight. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #9
The NYC mayor, Eric Adams, has zero to do with this. The DA of NY County doesn't report to him... Princess Turandot Mar 2022 #12
This is not a DoJ (federal) case and it has nothing to do Ocelot II Mar 2022 #7
Just ONE question. bluestarone Mar 2022 #2
AFAIK he's answerable to the Mayor who appointed him, Ocelot II Mar 2022 #3
My guess is that the Mayor who appointed him Bettie Mar 2022 #6
No! The DAs are voted into office, not appointed. They don't report to local mayors. Princess Turandot Mar 2022 #13
Oh, you're right. Then the voters are responsible. Ocelot II Mar 2022 #17
It's an elected office. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #11
OK. maybe a second question. bluestarone Mar 2022 #16
I would assume so; most rich-folk crimes have that. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #18
This is a paper case, the fraud is on paper. What the hell is "no slam dunk" mean? If me or you uponit7771 Mar 2022 #4
It means that trump is above the law. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #10
No shit. dalton99a Mar 2022 #14
Intent has to be proved. former9thward Mar 2022 #19
It's a paper case, he is the one signing off on the disparate values in property MINIMUM. He can't uponit7771 Mar 2022 #20
The evaluations don't come out of thin air. former9thward Mar 2022 #21
Only "Troubling" For Those Who Actually Expected There Would Be Accountability & Justice SoCalDavidS Mar 2022 #8
The trumps are not the only ones doing those crimes in NYc dclarston13 Mar 2022 #15

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
1. 4 years of hard case work ended in a poof. Funny thing, that.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:10 PM
Mar 2022

Those hoping the DOJ will do anything to trump are delusional.

He is above the law and knows it.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
9. It's the same story over and over. Regardless of who is supposedly our white knight.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:33 PM
Mar 2022

Nothing

Ever

Will

Happen

To

Trump.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
12. The NYC mayor, Eric Adams, has zero to do with this. The DA of NY County doesn't report to him...
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:37 PM
Mar 2022

Every county in NYS has an independently elected district attorney. Thus, NYC has five district attorneys, one elected in each borough. The mayor doesn't have authority over any of them.

Ocelot II

(115,576 posts)
7. This is not a DoJ (federal) case and it has nothing to do
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:31 PM
Mar 2022

with anything either the DoJ or the 1/6 committee might be investigating. It is a state law case in which the issue is whether the Trump Org. fraudulently induced banks to lend it money in violation of NY law. That Bragg seems to be slow-walking the case stinks, but it's nothing to do with the DoJ.

Bettie

(16,058 posts)
6. My guess is that the Mayor who appointed him
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:24 PM
Mar 2022

is 100% on board with letting this go.

Seems a lot of powerful people are absolutely cool with reinforcing that some people are above the law.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. It's an elected office.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:36 PM
Mar 2022

I'm sure NY has provisions for impeachment, but no doubt that's just as difficult/improbable as impeachment at the Federal level.

I'd like to imagine USDOJ could investigate this mess, but they seem rather hands-off regarding Trump.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
4. This is a paper case, the fraud is on paper. What the hell is "no slam dunk" mean? If me or you
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:22 PM
Mar 2022

... had this level of evidence they wouldn't even bring it to trial and force a guilty plea.

Somethings wrong here.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
20. It's a paper case, he is the one signing off on the disparate values in property MINIMUM. He can't
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 04:11 PM
Mar 2022

... say " I didn't know shit .." after bragging he's a good businessman.

The DOJ is prosecuting a paper case against Marilyn Mosby, there is NO intent in that case and she has cashed checks from the IRS proven she paid off tax bills

former9thward

(31,925 posts)
21. The evaluations don't come out of thin air.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 04:21 PM
Mar 2022

There are layers of real estate people, lawyers and accountants for property that size. Very difficult to show intent to defraud.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
8. Only "Troubling" For Those Who Actually Expected There Would Be Accountability & Justice
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:33 PM
Mar 2022

Little did they realize this is America, and there are simply some who are Above The Law, and they know it.

Rinse & Repeat. More to come.

dclarston13

(405 posts)
15. The trumps are not the only ones doing those crimes in NYc
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 03:52 PM
Mar 2022

I would think, given the association between power and real estate in NYC, that some other really rich folks in real estate do not want to set this precedent. Not the prosecuting of a president, but clamping down on real estate valuations and methods for doing the same. I am not expert in these things it is just a thought based on a couple of conversations with real estate people from that area, who were not at all surprised and did not see what the big deal was.

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