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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsClear to Me That Trump's Support of Putin Has Destroyed His Chances of Being Elected to Anything
Donald Trump cannot justify his support of Putin. Not only in an "Election", I also believe that speaking
engagements of all types will be canceled. He has proved himself to all, (yes, I said ( "ALL') that he is a
total fool. Well maybe 20% of those that followed him will still worship him..
...The Republican Party will disown him, and he will become total poison to most of the world. He can never
take this back. Never. He thinks he can, but he can't. Nothing he can do, will change what he has said in
support of Putin. Only one thing he can do:... "Move Permanently To Russia.
PortTack
(32,760 posts)Thats just the tip of it!
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Sadly, it is not.
He will win the GOP nomination and even though he will lose by 15 million votes, because of the EC and outright changing of electors by GOP run states, most likely will "win."
The only was we stop him is if he is dead.
Stuart G
(38,420 posts)Donald Trump is total poison forever. He hasn't got a clue. But the professionals in the Republican Party
know this. Trump will still get some money, but not like before. Just wait and see. Time will tell, but
I think that he is done forever.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)I never thought he would "win" the first time either
Aristus
(66,327 posts)I thought Trump was 'poison' in 2015; I thought 'No way this guy even gets the nomination'. And when he did, I thought 'No way he wins the election.' I woke up the day after Election Day 2016 physically sick to my stomach at how wrong I was, and how horrible the next four years were going to be.
I've lost so much faith in the American people, I'm convinced that even if he is arrested and put in jail, he will still get the GOP nom in 2024, and could win again.
Ocelot II
(115,681 posts)who've been drinking Putin's Kool-Aid and totally bought into TFG's lie about Ukraine and Biden. Tuckyo Rose Carlson is serving up that Kool-Aid by the gallon every night on Fox, and TFG's MAGAts are guzzling it up. Until TFG repudiates Putin - and he won't - his minions will tag right along.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,522 posts)these trump worshippers cannot be moved by anything. If he runs, they will vote for him. I Email with an old kid from the 'hood and he is on the trump train and will not get off for ANYTHING. I don't believe for a minute that he is alone. SAD. And SCARY.
sarisataka
(18,627 posts)Wash, Rinse, Repeat
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)He will claim he won, but the other side cheated, and get a second crack at a coup, this time more violent.
Jazz Jon
(109 posts)He only needs to be a candidate. State legislatures will try to foul up the electors snd/or push the election to the House of Representatives.
I have not given up hope that a second coup will fail.
The Tragedy in Ukraine created by Putin -weakens the Republicans. We'll see by how much.
By the way, the push to ban Russian oil is bi-partiszn ONLY because higher oil prices benefit the Republicans favorite industry, oil, and that's why Manchin is on board too.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)I don't think they believe that anything Trump has done in his entire miserable time on the political stage should be disqualifying.
They are un-American shitweasels who put power and party ahead of EVERYTHING else.
JohnSJ
(92,183 posts)threat to our democracy
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But don't underestimate the power of our popular media to normalize anything when it comes to the former guy. The record is simultaneously appalling and astounding.
brush
(53,771 posts)backtrack on all his pro-Putin praising. But he's done. All his republican primary rivals have to do is run ads of him calling Putin, now seen for what he is, a cruel invader, a genius.
He's toast. Where's the grape jam?
Chainfire
(17,536 posts)It is a long time to the elections. A lot of Trump's supporters don't remember the Jan. 6 insurrection...
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)But there will always be a significant percent of GOPers that will support him no matter what.
Mr.Bill
(24,283 posts)would vote for Charles Manson in his current condition if he was running against Joe Biden.
Jim__
(14,075 posts)Stuart G
(38,420 posts)can be found with ...."Google Search" very easily.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)You seem to think they care about the truth.
Sadly that aint the case.
Jim__
(14,075 posts)Trump's calling it so trumps any "proof" you can find.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)The fact about easily-led people is that they are just as easily led away from something as they were led towards it.
Mme. Defarge
(8,028 posts)With no McDonalds or Coke or Pepsi? Seriously?
Retrograde
(10,134 posts)P.T. Barnum said something like that over a century ago, and things haven't changed.
Back in 2016 I kept telling myself that the US would never elect an inexperienced, misogynistic, bigoted, failed businessman to any sort of office, or even nominate him over experienced and qualified* candidates such as Bush, Christie, or Kasich.
*OK, I don't like any of them and would never have voted for one of them, but at least they had some idea of how government worked, and some degree of sanity
Metaphorical
(1,602 posts)I'd say that the GOP is damaged at this point by their ties to Russia, and that will likely be a factor primarily for independent voters in the Fall. I think this is what isn't considered by most people here. What's left of the GOP is a band of thieves, fools, and ne'er-do-wells, and they aren't going to support anyone but Trump (something that I think has finally dawned on the governors of Florida and Texas respectively). The independents are reachable, and most are as disturbed by Putin's actions as the Democrats are. I think we have a good chance of actually picking up seats in both the House and Senate this cycle. That will shape 2024 as much as whether Trump attempts to regain control.
pandr32
(11,581 posts)He isn't on the level about anything ever so it isn't far-fetched for him to claim he will run and try to raise money he keeps. There are still idiots who will fork over cash. He will say whatever to keep it coming.
I can picture him in prison still moaning and groaning--blaming Biden, Hillary and the 'radical leftists' for his plight. The stupid media will likely pay him for interviews, and there will be books. It won't end till he dies and then his spawn will try to beat each other to tell all for cash.
Truthfully, I don't see him exiling himself to Russia, China or anywhere. He won't be worth anything to Putin anymore and he can't be trusted.
He will also be broke.