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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 06:21 PM Mar 2022

Missouri Republican pitches new law to stop women from traveling out of state to get abortions

An anti-abortion GOP lawmaker in Missouri, a state which passed one of the country’s strictest abortion laws in back 2019, says she has a solution to to the problem of people traveling out of state for abortions, The Washington Post reports.

"An unusual new provision, introduced by state Rep. Mary Elizabeth Coleman (R), would allow private citizens to sue anyone who helps a Missouri resident obtain an abortion out of state, using the novel legal strategy behind the restrictive law in Texas that since September has banned abortions in that state after six weeks of pregnancy," reports the Post. "Coleman has attached the measure as an amendment to several abortion-related bills that have made it through committee and are waiting to be heard on the floor of the House of Representatives."

[link:https://www.rawstory.com/missouri-abortion-law/|]
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Missouri Republican pitches new law to stop women from traveling out of state to get abortions (Original Post) Soph0571 Mar 2022 OP
Can you say "Police State"? bif Mar 2022 #1
These are the party of freedumbs bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #2
WTF is the matter with these people. captain queeg Mar 2022 #3
And how will they know why XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #4
Ankle bracelets with your first prenatal checkup are next bhikkhu Mar 2022 #24
A WOMAN WROTE THIS BILL! And that image is EXACTLY what I was picturing before I even saw it. CurtEastPoint Mar 2022 #5
Enemies of the human race. And they need to be treated accordingly. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2022 #6
Legal Fail Me. Mar 2022 #7
Agreed. Good luck suing someone for doing something in another state where what they are doing ratchiweenie Mar 2022 #14
I plan to sue EVERY republican in the state as accessories to abortion Moostache Mar 2022 #8
Great idea. XacerbatedDem Mar 2022 #19
It's absolutely unconstitutional per the 14th Amendment's Privileges or Immunities Clause, Ocelot II Mar 2022 #9
Since you brought this up can you tell me how this would apply to child custody arrangements? LT Barclay Mar 2022 #21
Your sister needs to consult a lawyer in the jurisdiction. TomSlick Mar 2022 #22
Someone needs to tell these people to Sogo Mar 2022 #10
What's wrong with this logic: Girard442 Mar 2022 #11
Another post here with a different article budkin Mar 2022 #12
Idaho is trying the same stunt for treating trans children with needed treatments LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #13
It's not illegal to take a woman on vacation. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #15
Itll only be legal for them to go on vacation to places where abortions illegal... Volaris Mar 2022 #16
Incentivizing people to turn on each other EleanorR Mar 2022 #17
This is going to be a big (legal) fight in a post-Roe world LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #18
It is heartwarming how hard conservatives work to defend our "freedoms." Martin68 Mar 2022 #20
Yeah, 'cuz.... Turbineguy Mar 2022 #23

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
2. These are the party of freedumbs
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 06:25 PM
Mar 2022

The authority and desire to interfere with other people's personal privacy is pervasive with these kooks. I'm wondering if some stand your ground laws are going to clash with these restrictions on health care freedom.

captain queeg

(10,187 posts)
3. WTF is the matter with these people.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 06:31 PM
Mar 2022

I’d think maybe a law to disallow stock trades, dark money political contributions, etc would be a better use of these idiots’ time.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
24. Ankle bracelets with your first prenatal checkup are next
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:51 PM
Mar 2022

I'd guess. Though probably shouldn't give them ideas...

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
14. Agreed. Good luck suing someone for doing something in another state where what they are doing
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 08:13 PM
Mar 2022

is not a crime. These people are really, really, really, stupid and ignorant of the law.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
8. I plan to sue EVERY republican in the state as accessories to abortion
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 06:34 PM
Mar 2022

I don't care how many are guilty or not, I want my $10,000 bounty money...I GUARANTEE that there is more than ONE Rethug bastard who will be guilty of paying to make an unwanted "indiscretion" go away by transporting a pregnant woman across state lines to have an abortion.

Fuck these crusading assholes.

I also want a new law that provides the names and addresses of EVERYONE who ever turns someone in for violations of this excremental 'law'/idea and cross-referenced publication of the number of adopted children they have. Fucking hyporcrites. They are all cordially invited to suck my ass.

XacerbatedDem

(511 posts)
19. Great idea.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 11:16 AM
Mar 2022

Sue them all for helping to motivate people to leave Mo for an abortion by passing such a law in the first place.

"Fucking hypocrites." Exactly!

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
9. It's absolutely unconstitutional per the 14th Amendment's Privileges or Immunities Clause,
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 06:35 PM
Mar 2022

addressed as recently as 1999 in Saenz v. Roe, where the court held that there are several aspects to the right to travel, including the right to enter one state and leave another (an inherent right with historical support from the Articles of Confederation).

Of course, they're trying to avoid that little problem by giving private parties the right to sue, as in the Texas abortion statute. I wonder if they'd try to make it illegal to move to another state, too?

LT Barclay

(2,598 posts)
21. Since you brought this up can you tell me how this would apply to child custody arrangements?
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 02:27 PM
Mar 2022

I keep arguing with my sister because she believes that the custody agreement prohibits her from moving to another state and I say there is no way that would be legal as long as she wasn’t just moving to keep the father from seeing the child and is willing to pay 40% of transportation?

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
22. Your sister needs to consult a lawyer in the jurisdiction.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 02:40 PM
Mar 2022

How states deal with the balance between the right to travel and the noncustodial parent's rights vary from state to state.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
11. What's wrong with this logic:
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 06:59 PM
Mar 2022

The State of Missouri cannot constitutionally ban people from attending a Southern Baptist or a Roman Catholic Church, but could it pass a law empowering private citizens to sue for up to $10,000 anyone credibly accused of attending those churches?

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
15. It's not illegal to take a woman on vacation.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 08:22 PM
Mar 2022

It's not illegal to take a woman on vacation.

She might decide on her own to get an abortion after she gets there.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
16. Itll only be legal for them to go on vacation to places where abortions illegal...
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 08:35 PM
Mar 2022

You'll have to check in with the Pregnancy Probation Officer.

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