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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 08:02 PM Mar 2022

Its really disturbing to see civilians fighting a war.

I don't have much stomach for this sort of thing anyway. If it were happening here, I would be hiding at home because I would be too terrified to be in the streets.

In my mind, soldiers fight wars... soldiers who are well trained, well equipped, well armed, properly outfitted, and led by more experienced soldiers. Their roles are specialized, and their communication is good. Under the best of circumstances they volunteer for to go to war instead of being forced to by circumstances. Their basic needs are met. And they have the ability to last for months if necessary.

An army of civilians cannot stand for long against a professional army. I'm not saying the Russians are all that great, but... I think Ukraine needs help from real soldiers.

Edit: I'm not saying Ukraine doesn't have real soldiers, but my impression is that they are outnumbered.

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Its really disturbing to see civilians fighting a war. (Original Post) milestogo Mar 2022 OP
Civilians Dublin321 Mar 2022 #1
International law recognizes the concept of a levee en masse. TomSlick Mar 2022 #2
Not me, I have warrior blood...every generation my family fought for their country. I did not join Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #3
I think it's inspiring. I admire those people more than I can say. highplainsdem Mar 2022 #4
 

Dublin321

(29 posts)
1. Civilians
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 08:11 PM
Mar 2022

It's clear that Putin doesn't give a damn about modern concepts like precision bombing, minimising civilian casualties, etc. He probably views them as a modern Western bourgeois affectation.

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
2. International law recognizes the concept of a levee en masse.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 09:57 PM
Mar 2022

Under international law, a levee en masse is a spontaneous rising of the civilian population to defend against an invading force. Members of a levee en masse are lawful combatants and entitled to the protections under the Geneva Convention and Hague Protocols.

Do not underrate the Ukrainian people. They will bleed the Russians white.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
3. Not me, I have warrior blood...every generation my family fought for their country. I did not join
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 10:19 PM
Mar 2022

up as I married young and had babies young...but I have been in situations where I defended my life and my children's lives...I would rather die than live under slave rule.

highplainsdem

(48,902 posts)
4. I think it's inspiring. I admire those people more than I can say.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 10:23 PM
Mar 2022

And the US, NATO, and ALL countries who believe in freedom and the right to determine their own countries' future need to help the brave Ukrainians as much as possible.

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