Ilhan Omar says she'll vote against a bill to ban Russian oil, citing the 'devastating impact

[Peacetrain]

on the Russian people

https://news.yahoo.com/ilhan-omar-says-shell-vote-214522410.html

[Skittles]

1. ugh

[W_HAMILTON]

2. LOL

[iemanja]

4. It's not so funny when she's your congresswoman

with essentially zero chance of replacing her.

[Ocelot II]

10. Mine, too.

Wish a credible primary challenger would show up (the last one turned out to be rather unsatisfactory). She's been a disappointment.

[iemanja]

13. I agree, though

I did vote for her Dem. challenger in the last primary.

[Ocelot II]

19. I was on the fence but decided to give Omar another chance.

Now I wish I'd voted for the other guy, since she doesn't seem to have learned from her mistakes, dumb votes and grandstanding in her first term, as I had hoped.

[W_HAMILTON]

15. If she keeps making dumb moves like these...

...I imagine that it won't be long before we could "Gabbard" her out of our Democratic Party.

[Cha]

72. I just mentioned my Ex Rep, Gabbard here..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16459989

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[Cha]

71. I'm so sorry! Don Samuels is

going to try..

Former Minneapolis City Council member (Samuels) looks to unseat U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar

:https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1059&pid=11402

At one point I didn't think we'd ever replace Gabbard. but that took a sharp turn!

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[iemanja]

84. Thanks for the heads up!

I'll have a serious look at him.

[Cha]

85. All I know about Don Samuels is

what he's said in this Article.. but it seems very Insightful to me.

He's obviously been paying attention to what's been going on with Omar and gives a thoughtful response as to what he'd like to do for your District.

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[elleng]

3. No joke? And she's wrong, re: the amount it's small compared with Europe's use of Russian oil/gas.

Sorry.

Difficult, of course, that Russian people have no public info, about their government.

[Mike Nelson]

5. Hmm...

... I think it might be better to cite the impact on the American people, as she is one of our leaders. I do agree it's sad the Russian people have to suffer - but the Ukrainian people are suffering more. I respectfully hope Omar changes her vote plan.

[stopdiggin]

24. well put. thank you.

I must say I don't understand this move/position - and further think it is misguided. But I am going to do so respectfully (and perhaps see if there is not more info forthcoming). I know where I stand on this - but I remain hesitant to demand that all in my camp march in lockstep.
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[bottomofthehill]

6. Fucking moron.

How about the devastating impact the shelling and shooting is having on the people of the Ukraine. Fucking dope.

[rockfordfile]

74. I agree

[onecaliberal]

7. What?

[madaboutharry]

8. Sometimes I think she takes a stand for no reason other than to get attention.

She seems to invite the criticism. Two things are clear; she is not as smart as she thinks she is and she has her priorities mixed up.

[empedocles]

51. Or no good reason

[Hortensis]

97. +3. :) Main reason for sure; she doesn't need national attention to do

the job her constituents sent her for.

And the rest. I imagine always having different priorities from whatever majorities are focusing on is an important part of her self identity. In order to care more than others, it helps to find something they're less concerned about. As a politician, though, I suspect she learned long ago that it can be used to attract followers with the same leanings. And that it'll get her far more attention nationally than from her own district.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

99. Narcissism

[DURHAM D]

9. She is smarter than this.

What the hell.

[cinematicdiversions]

54. Are you sure? NT

[Cha]

73. Took the words right out

of my mind.

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[Ocelot II]

55. I wouldn't count on it.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

56. Apparently not. nt

[LenaBaby61]

64. IS she?

[betsuni]

94. No.

[CrackityJones75]

104. Doubtable.

She does this shit over and over and over and over....

[kimbutgar]

11. Can you imagine Fox attacking her for what they support?

I like how she’s would twist them into a pretzel trying to explain why she is wrong!!!!!

[LenaBaby61]

66. 😂😂😂

[iemanja]

12. I just told her I oppose her position

and that I'm a resident of her district. I hope Twitter counts.

[boston bean]

14. Tell me this is a fucking joke.

[Peacetrain]

16. I know.!!. I am still stunned.. what the heck??

[ChazII]

67. I did the same but posted

on her Facebook account.

[honest.abe]

17. Dumb.

[James48]

18. Maybe she has something to say

that we should all hear.

I am as angry with Putin as anyone, but i want to hear her argument. It is another voice worth listening to.

[Ocelot II]

22. I am one of her constituents, and I don't really care what she has to say any more,

because she has a history of taking controversial but dumb positions, apparently to get attention. I hope she has a primary challenger this time.

[iemanja]

59. Here is her tweet on the subject

So you can see what she has to say:

Link to tweet

The article also provides information on her position.

[CrackityJones75]

105. Listened to her this morning on Democracy Now

She is a fucking moron.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

20. Wow!!!!

She's more concerned about the Russian people than she is about the Ukrainian people that Putin is murdering?

[Diablo del sol]

21. Valid point IMO

That is it will have a devastating impact on the average Russian.

After that she lost me. Well aware of the propaganda that Russians must block out. Over the last twenty years being able to get around the propaganda is much easier. So if that average Russian person has to deal with the impact, it is a cruel world. What the Russian people need to do is stand up and fight for themselves and the ire needs to be directed at their own Govt. They can also leave Russia. ]

The interview I have seen show two distinct groups, those who know who Putin is, (fight or get out) and stupid people who want to be fed the propaganda. I have zero sympathy for the latter, the former have the two options.

[honest.abe]

23. Well almost all the sanctions so far have more impact on the average Russian.

That's not a valid argument.

[Diablo del sol]

28. agreed

being forced to hold rubles that devalue daily is much more impactful. Not being able to get supplies shipped in, thus rapid inflation is much bigger.

Trying to give her a benefit of the doubt that she is concerned about other humans. Thing is she identified a problem without offering any solution other than - DON'T.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

26. As opposed to the devasting impact on the average Ukrainian?

[Diablo del sol]

35. See my reply above

and agree, she is NOT looking at the big picture, only pointing to a specific issue she has. I always send employees out when they come to me with the standard, "we can't do X" if they can't offer an alternative then the person needs to spend a bit more time analyzing.

If I could find a Mooning smiley that would be my reply to your finger wagging smiley. For now, this will have to do. ( || )

[madville]

25. Also questioning sending weapons to Ukraine

She’s been taking all kinds of politically odd positions on Twitter today…..Also speaking out against the US requesting Saudi Arabia produce more oil.

Link to tweet

?s=21

[MarineCombatEngineer]

27. JFC!!!

[Diablo del sol]

46. Again - valid point - up to a point

Will some weapons end up in the wrong hands, without a doubt. Like many others, she is setting herself up for an "I told you so." Issue is she provided absolutely zero solutions. Criticism, not constructive criticism. She thinks she is really smart, in reality she is just a politician offering nothing other than cheap tweets.

Real easy to take a contrarian view and then pick out cases that support your original opinion months later. That is what republicans always do and some other prominent politicians. Thing is, these people can't make a decision real time under pressure. But they can come in a day later and critique.

[Crunchy Frog]

57. Sounds like the sort of thing I've seen from

left wing "antiwar" groups that are apologists, at best, for Putin.

Reference to "paramilitary groups" is pushing Putin talking points.

Disgusted.

[Samrob]

88. She is not a moron or idiot. She thinks of consequences and weighs them. I may not agree

with her final position but I admire her for not fearing to think differently but completely. Flooding any place with weapons that cannot be accounted for is an issue we may come to regret later. And our own government has refused to send certain kinds of weapons to Ukraine even though they asked us to do so.

Can we just hold different opinions without smearing each other and leave that to the GQP?
For some, there is nothing that members of the "squad" could ever say that would be acceptable. Even being right about Manchin.

[betsuni]

90. No, "holding feet to the fire" "constructive criticism" "speaking truth to power" applies to

Justice Democrats too, when one is the establishment.

[CrackityJones75]

106. Disagree.

Living on MN I have listened to her speak often. She is an idiot.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

111. ....

She is not a moron or idiot.

On this issue, yeah, she is.

[JoanofArgh]

98. She's anti- Ukraine. Straight up.

[Haggis 4 Breakfast]

29. Talk about misguided.

Good thing the US came to the aid of Somalia when their humanitarian crises rained down on them.

2019 -- US gives $257 million to Somalia in humanitarian aid.

2021 -- US gives $199 million to Somalia in humanitarian aid.

But I guess she forgot about that . . . .

P/S -- Ms. Omar - when people elect a president (again and again) who invades a sovereign nation and murders innocent civilians, even those fleeing, then maybe the pressure IS being applied appropriately.

[OAITW r.2.0]

30. On the same page with the Republican House intelligentsia?

MTG, Gosar, et al.

A bad look, even if she had to shut up and just voted for it, no big deal. She's not getting the big picture by focusing on here little picture constituents' economic issues, We could dealt with that, but she should have gotten a contingent deal from Pelosi and the WH.

[Raven123]

31. If Omar has a solution, let's hear it. There are no perfect choices here.

[Luizy]

32. She would have voted against Lincoln's blockade on the South

due to its "devastating impact" on the people.

[dalton99a]

33. +1

[Oneironaut]

41. Hitler is murdering everyone, but, what about the German people?

[Cognitive_Resonance]

34. Seriously misplaced priorities. Tell Ukraine about "devastating impact". nt

[TomSlick]

36. I'm going to assume for 24 hours that this story in inaccurate.

I make that assumption because no Democrat could take such a position. Rep Omar should be given the benefit of the doubt for 24 hours to prove that she is a Democrat and not a Putin asset.

[Demsrule86]

45. If after 24 hours, it turns out that she does take such a position...than perhaps a primary is in

her future.

[TomSlick]

49. Surely, the story is inaccurate and will be promptly denied - right?

She's not stupid - right? She's not a Putin stooge - right?

She is a decent human being - right?

[Demsrule86]

63. She has voted against Biden before. I really don't know what she is thinking. Time will tell.

[CrackityJones75]

107. Nope heard her say these things this morning

On democracy now.

[iemanja]

58. No, she posted about it on her twitter account.

Her justification was that the US was "cozying up to dictators," meaning Saudi Arabia. But her feeding Putin is just fine.

[TomSlick]

60. Surely she will reconsider - right?

She's not stupid - right?

[iemanja]

61. I've never seen her reconsider

but maybe I've missed something.

[TomSlick]

62. Neither have I. I have also never seen her so fundamentally wrong.

She seems an intelligent person. Surely she will see her error.

[DFW]

91. You must consider the possibility that she doesn't think she is making an error

Not exactly an appealing prospect to consider.

[betsuni]

92. +1

[TomSlick]

113. Indeed. Not an appealing prospect to consider.

[dalton99a]

37. Not to mention it might hurt Putin's feelings

[BlueLucy]

38. Isn't she one of the ones who want to sanction Israel? nt

[Oneironaut]

39. lol wut

[Owl]

40. Ugh!

[lapucelle]

42. Omar voted "present" on sanctions against Turkey

and "no" on a House resolution to recognize the century-old mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks as genocide.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/turkey-summons-us-ambassador-condemns-house-resolutions-6662840

3https://www.newsweek.com/ilhan-omar-refuses-back-turkey-armenian-genocide-vote-demands-slave-trade-slaughter-native-1468632

[sheshe2]

68. Exactly, lapucelle.

Why is anyone surprised by this?

She has shown us who she is...over and over.

[Cha]

75. Voted ""no" on a House resolution to recognize the century-old mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman

Turks as genocide."

Thank You for this information, lapucele..

Hmmm I wonder why she Voted No on calling the mass killing of Armenians.. Genocide? And, Present on Sanctions?

Like Don Samuels said, who's going to run against her in the Dem Primary, "She's lost touch with the people in her District".


Former Minneapolis City Council member (Samuels) looks to unseat U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1059&pid=11402


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[Jose Garcia]

109. It seems that the only foreign country she will oppose is Israel

[Bristlecone]

43. Sounds like a Rand Paul position somehow.

Contrarian and with flawed logic.

[Demsrule86]

44. Very interesting indeed.

makes you go hmmmmmmmmmmm

[Deuxcents]

47. She is a civil war survivor from Somalia

Her bio says she spent 4 years in a refugee camp as a young girl. She knows first hand about war so what is behind this decision? Russians n Ukraines are dying so wouldn’t she want to see this over with soon? She’s an American now and this is a war for democracy in Ukraine. I don’t get her stance on this..

[oasis]

48. I was hoping she would use the final 2 minutes of her 15 more wisely.

Oh well.

[MustLoveBeagles]

50. Wow

[Crunchy Frog]

52. Well, there goes my support for her.

What a disappointment.

And fuck the Russian people.

[jcgoldie]

53. fuck

[KG]

65. SHUN!

[iemanja]

83. Are you suggesting

that voters don't have a right to disagree with their elected representatives?

Why exactly do you find this so funny?

[Goodheart]

69. Except for children, I have no sympathy for Russians right now.

They deserve to suffer.

[betsuni]

70. She's trying to make this (as usual) about morals, to be morally righteous.

For some reason.

[Cha]

77. Imo.. The most Moral thing to do

would be to try to Stop Putin with all the Resources we're able to implement to get Russians the HELL out of Ukraine & STOP the Bombing and Slaughter of Innocent Children, Women, and Men in Ukraine.

Hello Omar.. Putin is the Murderous Aggressor.

Talk to him about Stopping This SHIT!

[betsuni]

78. Populist purist morals.

[Cha]

79. Viva Ukraine!

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[Cha]

81. How about showing some Morality

For the Ukrainian People who are being Slaughtered by Russians while Fighting on the Front Lines For Democracy and Actual Freedom?!

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[betsuni]

96. Oh, that's different. Fundraising.

[iemanja]

82. I don't find her position moral

at all.

[betsuni]

93. It's Justice Democrats fake morals.

[dalton99a]

108. +1. As fake as the Green Party

[JI7]

86. The Squad

lol

[betsuni]

87. Exactly.

[Wingus Dingus]

76. WTF

[LiberatedUSA]

80. What a shocker. N/t

[Celerity]

89. Stupid stance. She gets no pass from me on this one.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

95. Utterly

Utterly despicable.

[Hugin]

100. I suppose this puts the Republican House in a real bind...

Either they vote for a ban or they camp with Rep Omar. At no real cost to the Democrats in the House on the vote.

For a political discussion board, there is little knowledge of politics here.

[oasis]

101. So that was Omar's plan? Absolutely brilliant!

[Hugin]

102. I don't know if it was her plan or if she has any plan...

But, it is how it will work out in the end.

And, any Democrat running for Congress can point to it and say their opponent sides with Omar. Which doesn’t seem like much to a normal thinking person, but, is the kiss of death among the right wing cultists. Twisting their pre-programming into pretzels.

[CrackityJones75]

103. As a Minnesotan I am done with her

I have come to the conclusion that we just likes to grandsrand. Listening to her on Democracy Now this morning she just says things to get people riled up. All Biden hate all the time.

Apparently we shouldn’t Arm Ukraine because Afghanistan. And we shouldn’t impose sanctions on Russia either. She wants us to basically do nothing because we didn’t do anything or enough for someone else in the past. She isn’t looking to do the right thing going forward, she seeks revenge for things that happened in the past. After living here ad watching her for her career this far it is apparent to me that she mostly enjoys being controversial and that sometimes gets in the way of doing the right things.

I would prefer that next go round we find a different candidate.

[Amishman]

110. Between this and the DSA pro-russia stuff, I'm really wondering what is going on

Seriously, this makes zero sense at all. I would not expect someone who came to this country as a refugee from Somalia to be taking this angle on Ukraine

[Chakaconcarne]

112. Awesome... this will make for great optics.