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speak easy

(9,243 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 10:02 PM Mar 2022

Riddle Me This: 'Blinken says NATO countries have "green light" to send fighter jets to Ukraine'

Blinken says NATO countries have "green light" to send fighter jets to Ukraine

Washington [March 7] — Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday that NATO members have the go-ahead to send fighter jets to Ukraine as the U.S. and allies continue their efforts to help Ukraine defend itself against Russia's invasion.

"That gets a green-light," Blinken said in an interview with "Face the Nation" when asked whether the Polish government, a member of NATO, could send fighter planes to Ukraine. "In fact, we're talking with our Polish friends right now about what we might be able to do to backfill their needs if in fact they choose to provide these fighter jets to the Ukrainians. What can we do? How can we help to make sure that they get something to backfill the planes that they are handing over to the Ukrainians?"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-nato-fighter-jets-antony-blinken-face-the-nation/

But transferring the planes via Ramstein Air Base is not acceptable because that would mean the U.S was sending fighter planes to Ukraine, and that does not have a green light because the U.S. in not a NATO member?

But wait, there's more. After Blinken made his statement to the world, "A White House spokesperson told CBS News the Biden administration is evaluating the capabilities it could provide to backfill jets to Poland if it decided to transfer planes to Ukraine but noted there are several questions that arise from a decision to do so, including how the jets could be transferred from Poland to Ukraine. "

Guess those questions have not been answered.
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Riddle Me This: 'Blinken says NATO countries have "green light" to send fighter jets to Ukraine' (Original Post) speak easy Mar 2022 OP
So so frustrating...get it worked out...NOW! PortTack Mar 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Budi Mar 2022 #2
I admit that I can be easily confused, brer cat Mar 2022 #3
This is sounding unprofessional, the DoD has to get its shit together uponit7771 Mar 2022 #4
Maybe the WH, SOS, DOD could have a little meeting prior to making comments on a topic? Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #5
"That gets a green light ... In fact, we're talking with our Polish friends right now ..." speak easy Mar 2022 #6
Maybe he did get a WH green light, but the DOD said the light is red, sorry. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #8
I don't think Blinken had a WH green light speak easy Mar 2022 #11
Yes. Everyone is afraid to have the planes leave from their territory. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #12
'Blinken made some sort of error' speak easy Mar 2022 #13
I agree, mistakes are costing lives. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #14
But whatever Blinken stumbles, one man, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, is to blame. speak easy Mar 2022 #20
Yes I believe Putin is out for world domination. Ukraine is just the start. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #23
Biden will have to get rid of Blinken if they don't work it out BlueLucy Mar 2022 #7
Right, this was a big screw up, and now allies won't know who to trust. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #9
A head will have to roll. nt BlueLucy Mar 2022 #10
That won't be happening. nt bluewater Mar 2022 #22
I know how the planes get from Poland to the Ukraine DFW Mar 2022 #15
and there is an airbase close to LLIV? speak easy Mar 2022 #16
Good question DFW Mar 2022 #17
Because the DOD does not want to "fly into airspace that is contested " speak easy Mar 2022 #18
At this point, probably any Ukrainian airspace can be considered to be contested DFW Mar 2022 #19
That is why they need to bring Ukraine into NATO immediately. kentuck Mar 2022 #21
I think the rub is Germany Orangepeel Mar 2022 #24
Yes I think that is why Meowmee Mar 2022 #25

Response to speak easy (Original post)

brer cat

(24,561 posts)
3. I admit that I can be easily confused,
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 10:21 PM
Mar 2022

but this is not making sense to me. It's good that it's President Biden's decision and not mine.

Irish_Dem

(47,000 posts)
5. Maybe the WH, SOS, DOD could have a little meeting prior to making comments on a topic?
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:00 PM
Mar 2022

Just an idea, but what do I know.

speak easy

(9,243 posts)
6. "That gets a green light ... In fact, we're talking with our Polish friends right now ..."
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:19 PM
Mar 2022

Shooting from the hip?

Irish_Dem

(47,000 posts)
8. Maybe he did get a WH green light, but the DOD said the light is red, sorry.
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:32 PM
Mar 2022

So maybe the DOD is calling the shots.

I don't know what the heck happened here, but I think the public has a right to know what is going on.

speak easy

(9,243 posts)
11. I don't think Blinken had a WH green light
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:56 PM
Mar 2022

A WH spokesperson contacted CBS after the interview and said "there are several questions that arise from a decision to do so, including how the jets could be transferred from Poland to Ukraine"

Poland came upon with, - 'we will send the planes to Ramstein', apparently without consulting NATO or the U.S. My take - CYA. If the planes can't be delivered, don't blame Poland.

Irish_Dem

(47,000 posts)
12. Yes. Everyone is afraid to have the planes leave from their territory.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 12:03 AM
Mar 2022

It does sound like Blinken made some sort of error. Maybe he and Poland came up with the Ramstein plans but did not clear it with WH or DOD. If so, that is a big mistake on his part.

speak easy

(9,243 posts)
13. 'Blinken made some sort of error'
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 12:19 AM
Mar 2022

Pre invasion that would not matter much. But now Ukraine is hanging on every expression of tangible support, as their people are being killed, night and day.

Irish_Dem

(47,000 posts)
14. I agree, mistakes are costing lives.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 12:22 AM
Mar 2022

I guess I am trying to give him the benefit of the doubt until more is made public.

It is not an error, it is a tragedy.

speak easy

(9,243 posts)
20. But whatever Blinken stumbles, one man, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, is to blame.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 01:03 AM
Mar 2022

a name will go down 'in infamy'. And a 'whatever' adolescent has gotten out of bed. If any country knows the Sudetenland playbook, it must be the Bundesrepublik.

Irish_Dem

(47,000 posts)
23. Yes I believe Putin is out for world domination. Ukraine is just the start.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:07 AM
Mar 2022

Yep he is the ghost of Hitler come back to haunt us.

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
7. Biden will have to get rid of Blinken if they don't work it out
Tue Mar 8, 2022, 11:27 PM
Mar 2022

Because he just won't be trusted again by our allies.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
15. I know how the planes get from Poland to the Ukraine
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 12:24 AM
Mar 2022

A pilot familiar with operating such a plane gets in the cockpit, starts the engine, takes off, and flies due east for about 45 minutes.

That’s how.

speak easy

(9,243 posts)
18. Because the DOD does not want to "fly into airspace that is contested "
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 12:41 AM
Mar 2022

So if the airspace around Lliv is not ... etc.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
19. At this point, probably any Ukrainian airspace can be considered to be contested
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 01:01 AM
Mar 2022

The Ukrainians will say their airspace is theirs, and the Russians will say it is theirs. I don’t see how any Ukrainian airspace can be considered to be “uncontested” under such circumstances.

kentuck

(111,085 posts)
21. That is why they need to bring Ukraine into NATO immediately.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 01:05 AM
Mar 2022

With a rational person, that is the only message they would need to hear.

But we do not know how irrational Mr Putin might have become?

But the world cannot sit by and watch a dictator take one country after another, one bite after another. We should have learned thru history that we must stop tyrants immediately.

Putin has declared war on the West. On Europe. On the USA. That is too close to reality.

Propaganda is a major weapon when countries choose to go to war.

But make no mistake, it was Russian troops that came across Ukraine's border. Russia was the aggressor. Most of the world sees it.

The NATO countries need to unite at this time. They should invite Ukraine to join them, in my opinion.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
24. I think the rub is Germany
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:40 AM
Mar 2022

Go ahead and give your planes to Ukraine and Give your planes to a US Airbase in Germany are not exactly the same thing.

Just guessing, though

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
25. Yes I think that is why
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:05 AM
Mar 2022

Ramstein is a nato training base so it would look like nato/ the us etc. were too involved maybe.

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