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(92,061 posts)jimfields33
(15,705 posts)The war should not be conducted by Twitter. So unbelievably stunning.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Biden needs to step up and ensure the jets are in Ukraine asap. Solve all other shit later.
highplainsdem
(48,921 posts)Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)before involving Poland and Germany. And all of them need to STFU until the deal is decided. Don't give Ukraine false hope.
Happy Hoosier
(7,221 posts)It looks a little chaotic. I realize that there are complications, but don't play out complexities publicly. And above all, make it happen FAST.
Ray Bruns
(4,081 posts)I'm tired hearing about what they can't do.
Happy Hoosier
(7,221 posts)All this "we can't do that" smacks of obsequious waffling.
Where is that spine of steel?
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)Just WOW! I haven't seen that word in a LONG time. (I wonder how many had to look it up?)
Seriously, I applaud the use of some higher level vocabulary in our discussions. It's good.
highplainsdem
(48,921 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(43,155 posts)1. Poland flies its MiGs to a neutral country and leaves them there.
2. Ukrainians fly to neutral country.
3. Ukrainians fly MiGs back to Ukraine.
4. If need be, Ukraine can avoid flying over NATO airspace to dispel the notion this is in any way a NATO operation.
President Biden can be a hero and make this happen.
HariSeldon
(455 posts)Through Georgia? Russia? Have you looked at the geography?
Tommy Carcetti
(43,155 posts)Or Georgia--I'm sure they wouldn't mind.
Chainfire
(17,474 posts)Ray Bruns
(4,081 posts)Chainfire
(17,474 posts)'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings
Neither people, nations or alliances always do what they say they will do.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Ukraine would be an entry point into the conflict. It comes down to what would Putins reaction be. Would he consider it a declaration of war and retaliate against Poland or the US ?
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,915 posts)The Russians made it clear, privately, that this is a big red line for them.
And we are not willing to cross that line. At this time at least.