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Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:15 PM Mar 2022

Do we care mostly about invasions of majority white countries?

In 1939, Hitler invaded Poland. With the exception of Russia, no European country has invaded another European country since then, except for Russia. And Ukraine ain't the first place where Russia has done it.

Notice that I'm talking about Europe. Can anyone here mention how many African and/or Asian countries have invaded their neighbors since 1939? Go ahead, take a shot at the answer.

My point is that the majority of Americans, (white Americans), tend to focus on European invasions, more than they do to any other invasions around the world.

What's happening today in Ukraine is a horrible nightmare, and Putin and all others responsible for this human tragedy must be made to answer in full.

However, spend a few moments on google and check out a few facts about the rest of the world. The numbers of invasions are far beyond what we are aware of. Most of us may be able to name only a few, if any.

It seems to me that this reinforces the accusation that racism is a disease that is deeply embedded in America. Anyone here want to defend it? Even we Democrats have too often failed to stand up against this horrible human trait, we too bear partial responsibility for having often ignored it.

So I, for one, admit that I didn't pay as much attention to African/Asian invasions as much as I am paying to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Shame on me. Shame on all of us who have ignored it for decades.

If/When sane people on this planet can manage to put an end to this invasion and this nuclear threat to the world, perhaps we can start paying attention to how we can forever end the threats of bullies, dictators, and would-be tyrants forever.

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Do we care mostly about invasions of majority white countries? (Original Post) Cyrano Mar 2022 OP
Not arguing your central point, but consider. . . . . Stinky The Clown Mar 2022 #1
This is an attack or at least threat on US and our partners. boston bean Mar 2022 #2
By golly, you're right. No one's ever heard of South Korea. NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 #3
+1000 Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #4
Or Iraq or Iran and the rest of the Middle East. brush Mar 2022 #7
Does Russia share a border with Afghanistan, thereby qualifying as a neighbor? mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2022 #9
Three former Soviet republics border on the north Arger68 Mar 2022 #14
Africa which is mostly tribal attacked and quite brutal ...... Lovie777 Mar 2022 #5
Well, I guess we didn't kick Iraq out of Kuwait MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #6
Unnn, this one is pretty naked aggression against a virgin democracy uponit7771 Mar 2022 #8
If China Decides RobinA Mar 2022 #10
Quite a few European nations have been invaded sarisataka Mar 2022 #11
In the past, there was the argument that it is not good to be the policeman of the world Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #12
Invasion of a sovereign democracy MoonlitKnight Mar 2022 #13
In a word, YES. Most minority countries have already been invaded. nt Samrob Mar 2022 #15
Add to your discussion white invasions of non-white countries n/t malaise Mar 2022 #16
Not enough room here for that, malaise. That's the history of the world. Cyrano Mar 2022 #20
LOL malaise Mar 2022 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Mar 2022 #17
I am still just as upset about Myanmar as Ukraine. texasfiddler Mar 2022 #18
Which recent invasions are you speaking of in Asia/Africa? EX500rider Mar 2022 #19
Post removed Post removed Mar 2022 #21
Strongly support Ukraine. But the news has kind of been like a kidnapped white Hoyt Mar 2022 #23
+1, UKR is different IMHO cause its a new democracy that doesn't have the history behind its ... uponit7771 Mar 2022 #26
What we do in Africa is give supplies and money to help. jimfields33 Mar 2022 #24
European-Americans more closely identify with Europe than Africa. Sneederbunk Mar 2022 #25
I do, I'm AA ... we have to go outside of western M$M to see it though. uponit7771 Mar 2022 #27
Something about the prospect of nuclear war may or may not make this different. ColinC Mar 2022 #28

Stinky The Clown

(67,766 posts)
1. Not arguing your central point, but consider. . . . .
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:18 PM
Mar 2022

. . . . . if the world (the "we" in your OP) unites to stop this and bring Putin to some state of accountability, might not then set a precedent?

No matter how lacking was humanity in the past, any time humanity starts to act humanely is a good day - and possibly the start of a sea change.

boston bean

(36,219 posts)
2. This is an attack or at least threat on US and our partners.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:21 PM
Mar 2022

This is quite a different situation. I don’t think it’s because we care about white people only.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
9. Does Russia share a border with Afghanistan, thereby qualifying as a neighbor?
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:33 PM
Mar 2022

{edited to add "Please."} Please don't make me have to look it up. Google is out today.

Arger68

(679 posts)
14. Three former Soviet republics border on the north
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:45 PM
Mar 2022

of Afghanistan, so the Soviet Union had a direct border but not Russia

Lovie777

(12,218 posts)
5. Africa which is mostly tribal attacked and quite brutal ......
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:27 PM
Mar 2022

1994 Rwanda genocide - 100 days of slaughter approx 1 million died by machete, clubs and guns.

Japan killed, raped, maim countless Koreans.

And that names a few. The problem right now. Nuclear Weapons, which a lot of countries have, i.e. Russia to name one.

It concerns me and my family that a madman can use his Nuclear Weapons as leverage.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,264 posts)
6. Well, I guess we didn't kick Iraq out of Kuwait
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:30 PM
Mar 2022

during Desert Shield/Desert Storm, although I distinctly remember being part of it.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
10. If China Decides
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:36 PM
Mar 2022

to annex Japan you better believe you will hear about it. It's about the relative threat, not the complexion of the players.

sarisataka

(18,501 posts)
11. Quite a few European nations have been invaded
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:36 PM
Mar 2022

Since Poland in 1939.

There are 28+/- conflicts in progress. Some are hot, some very cool. Are we going to appoint ourselves World Superhero an go around invading countries to impose peace on them?

Tetrachloride

(7,819 posts)
12. In the past, there was the argument that it is not good to be the policeman of the world
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:39 PM
Mar 2022

Moreover, the endgame must be clear.

Moreover, strong probability of long lasting success

Moreover, low risk of catastrophe

To achieve all this, public support, strong supply lines, good weather and official support of organizations such as
Nato, the UN or the United Federation of Planets.

There are at least 7 places of military conflict or strong potential thereof in the Eastern and Central Mediterranean region stretching across to Iran and down to Sudan.

One of the strongest armies in the region is Egypt and there’s zero sign that it intends to interfere militarily outside its borders.

that’s a sign of disinterest.

end of my evening foreign policy soapbox

Grammar and train of thought may have been haphazard.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
13. Invasion of a sovereign democracy
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:42 PM
Mar 2022

Even a flawed democracy warrants our attention and response. Proven by our decades of support for South Korea and Taiwan. Our coming to the aid of Muslim Kosovo.

Yes we have turned a blind eye to many conflicts involving people of color. We have abandoned them in the name of national interests. Yes, I think it is well past the time of supporting dictators that serve our interests, starting with Saudi Arabia.

But we need to stand up for democracy both here and abroad. Forcefully.

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

texasfiddler

(1,989 posts)
18. I am still just as upset about Myanmar as Ukraine.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:50 PM
Mar 2022

Both situations are an affront to Democracy and terrible for people in each country. I wish we could/would do more in both situations.

EX500rider

(10,810 posts)
19. Which recent invasions are you speaking of in Asia/Africa?
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 05:51 PM
Mar 2022

I really can't think of any recent invasions of countries by their neighbor other then Iraq into Kuwait and that got lots of attention.

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
23. Strongly support Ukraine. But the news has kind of been like a kidnapped white
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 06:32 PM
Mar 2022

girl vs. a POC. Both deserve equal treatment.

We have stood by too often when countries in middle-east, Asia, Africa, South America have been invaded or subjected to internal strife.

But that shouldn’t detract from Ukraine right now.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
26. +1, UKR is different IMHO cause its a new democracy that doesn't have the history behind its ...
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:16 PM
Mar 2022

... new style of government other countries have had and it's naked aggression by a nuclear power for the sake of subjugation.

jimfields33

(15,705 posts)
24. What we do in Africa is give supplies and money to help.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:05 PM
Mar 2022

Many are working on getting clean water to everyone in Africa. True we might not join a war. But we do care a lot about the continent of Africa.

Sneederbunk

(14,279 posts)
25. European-Americans more closely identify with Europe than Africa.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:15 PM
Mar 2022

Looking for examples where African-Americans focused on African invasions.

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