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Danmel

(4,906 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:14 PM Mar 2022

My brothers sister in law and her family are fleeing Texas

To protect their transgender daughter and save their family. She is 16 and they are being threatened with arrest and loss of custody. Mom and her other two kids are coming to Connecticut to live with family. Dad is staying behind to sell the house.
It's hard to believe this is America, but here we are.

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My brothers sister in law and her family are fleeing Texas (Original Post) Danmel Mar 2022 OP
How awful for all of them! What happened to "The Land of the Free?" CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2022 #1
Not in TX Rebl2 Mar 2022 #59
I am certain they are not the only ones. soldierant Mar 2022 #75
I'm so sorry ... Delphinus Mar 2022 #2
I believe... FarPoint Mar 2022 #3
So sorry to hear! 💔 SheltieLover Mar 2022 #4
Smart move. These dictator states are bad news. sarcasmo Mar 2022 #5
same here , their just sick of Texass period ! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #6
Holy cow YoshidaYui Mar 2022 #7
they don't these folk to exist Skittles Mar 2022 #8
It's not America ... it's just Texas FakeNoose Mar 2022 #9
I suggest that you look up the bill that the ID house passed yesterday, making niyad Mar 2022 #19
People STILL just can't wrap their minds around the situation Hekate Mar 2022 #30
Exactly. I think it is just so far outside rational thought and behaviour that many niyad Mar 2022 #35
The OP just breaks my heart. Someone yesterday said what was going on was "just grandstanding" Hekate Mar 2022 #61
Thank you for saying this Dorian Gray Mar 2022 #81
That's why they're going after trans people first NullTuples Mar 2022 #67
Unbelievable!!! F*ck Texas! Chicagogrl1 Mar 2022 #10
F*ck Texas is right! ShazzieB Mar 2022 #16
Under the very noses of the freedumb convoy truckers... keithhs28 Mar 2022 #78
Sorry things have come to this. Hassler Mar 2022 #11
I would have expected corporations with offices, factories, etc. in Texas to complain 70sEraVet Mar 2022 #12
Time for Rebl2 Mar 2022 #60
Yeah my nephew is with a big tax firm there Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #87
If he is in one of the major metropolitan counties, he is in a blue area yellowdogintexas Mar 2022 #104
Well, glad to hear there are islands of blue there Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #106
A pregnancy test for every woman crossing state lines. CrispyQ Mar 2022 #108
When I was reading your post, I thought of the fugitive slave act, too 70sEraVet Mar 2022 #114
Good for them. I wish them luck. multigraincracker Mar 2022 #13
Might be a topic ripe for authorship bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #40
I'm not sure about NYC, but multigraincracker Mar 2022 #42
I just think a lot of people would like to do something like that but don't know how bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #44
I have only one close relative and no multigraincracker Mar 2022 #70
You're describing me. róisín_dubh Mar 2022 #79
I am very interested to see how much more of this WE are going to take. Missn-Hitch Mar 2022 #14
Happiness is Texas in your rear view mirror! Cozmo Mar 2022 #15
The Fascist States of AmeriKKKa.... magicarpet Mar 2022 #65
So sorry for this. Samrob Mar 2022 #17
OMG. Hope they all stay safe. Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #18
Good call. TomSlick Mar 2022 #20
That is I wanted my Granddaughters in Canada. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #21
It's not just TX. Glad for those who escape the madness. Basic tolerance is gone in some areas Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #46
Good. They are not safe there. None of the Confederate slave states are safe anymore. ZonkerHarris Mar 2022 #22
My Granddaughters are mixed race. Texaswitchy Mar 2022 #23
So sad that it's come to that, and in f**king America! XacerbatedDem Mar 2022 #24
Only for the "right kind" of people, obviously. Beartracks Mar 2022 #56
Women, girls and transgender youth aren't safe in TX. MontanaMama Mar 2022 #25
The local news here in Austin has already reported investigations going on. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #26
..."they suspect of having a transgender child." DBoon Mar 2022 #72
talibornagains. but don't call it sharia. churia? pansypoo53219 Mar 2022 #27
interesting piece about Sharia Law yellowdogintexas Mar 2022 #107
So sorry Meowmee Mar 2022 #28
there is only one hope for that shithole... blue sky at night Mar 2022 #29
This is Red America not all America. pwb Mar 2022 #31
The haters are EVERYWHERE. niyad Mar 2022 #37
Red America is well down the path to attempting to nationalise christofascism. Celerity Mar 2022 #54
I can't help but think this is part of a larger scheme to drive liberals out of red states and LaMouffette Mar 2022 #32
Republicans are on a rabid, hate-filled mission to turn back the clock dlk Mar 2022 #33
I have a brother in law who is also leaving Texas. Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #34
That's not going to improve things much? Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #47
Well, his move doesn't really Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #62
If money was no object I think I'd build my own gated community to keep the rednecks out! Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #91
This is, in the strictest sense of the word, state-sponsored terrorism... First Speaker Mar 2022 #36
Life gets so much better after Texas UpInArms Mar 2022 #38
That's awful. I'm so sorry for them. mountain grammy Mar 2022 #39
your hate does not help. johnsolaris Mar 2022 #41
Seriously? I've re-read the OP 3 times, and I don't see a bit of hate. Fear, absolutely, bullwinkle428 Mar 2022 #45
I am vercetti2021 Mar 2022 #48
It's the posters truth, not hate. Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #49
I didn't see any hate by the OP. I saw sadness and fear because the TX legislature Ocelot II Mar 2022 #52
Republicans attacked America on J6, that's not "hate" that's fact uponit7771 Mar 2022 #53
i see you dont post much, despite being here a decade. mopinko Mar 2022 #90
Hi! ismnotwasm Mar 2022 #93
Do you have a transgender child? wryter2000 Mar 2022 #94
Native-born Texan here Random Boomer Mar 2022 #105
I wonder if red states will BlueSky3 Mar 2022 #43
They would be happy if that happened DBoon Mar 2022 #73
Good on them vercetti2021 Mar 2022 #50
Texas, once gain putting the T in shithole Celerity Mar 2022 #51
I'm so sorry you have to go through this. calimary Mar 2022 #55
That just breaks my heart. I am so glad they are leaving like that, like NOW Hekate Mar 2022 #57
Get out while you can. Jetheels Mar 2022 #58
If the whole family moves, can they really make that stick? Are families able to send a child ahead Hekate Mar 2022 #63
That will NEVER stand up in courts. Haggis 4 Breakfast Mar 2022 #68
You mean that you are not Karma13612 Mar 2022 #74
It's a bill. Sorry if I was not clear. Here's a link below. Jetheels Mar 2022 #76
Lord have mercy? wryter2000 Mar 2022 #95
That is just terrible bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #64
This is terrible and I'm so sorry Withywindle Mar 2022 #66
That young woman has a good family. NullTuples Mar 2022 #69
My daughter and her husband left 5 years ago young_at_heart Mar 2022 #71
Show them this - it might give some hope csziggy Mar 2022 #77
At least we still have the courts. Most of 'em, anyway. TreasonousBastard Mar 2022 #103
Oh gosh Dorian Gray Mar 2022 #80
Welcome to Connecticut! krispos42 Mar 2022 #82
Fairfield County Danmel Mar 2022 #83
I'm in Fairfield County krispos42 Mar 2022 #89
I went to high school in Fairfield County. wryter2000 Mar 2022 #96
Ah, Connecticut! The land where, when Republican politicians commit crimes,.. drbtg1 Mar 2022 #101
Refugees Klondike Kat Mar 2022 #84
Maybe we could just give Texas to Russia. CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #85
This is horrifying. PittBlue Mar 2022 #86
Welcome to Texas, The Nazi State Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2022 #88
So disappointing. I was hoping Texas would turn blue soon IronLionZion Mar 2022 #92
Very sad, but not that hard to believe. Caliman73 Mar 2022 #97
Friends of mine are fleeing the country. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2022 #98
eventually, Texas legislators will think twice about all of this social bullying. cab67 Mar 2022 #99
It is fascism and we will have to end it. The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #100
Don't Say Gay Bill Passed in Florida Lydiarose Mar 2022 #102
"they are being threatened with arrest and loss of custody." maxsolomon Mar 2022 #109
Their daughter is transitioning Danmel Mar 2022 #110
Thanks. maxsolomon Mar 2022 #113
Here's your test case. Behind the Aegis Mar 2022 #115
SO MUCH FREEDOM budkin Mar 2022 #111
Welcome to Fascism stollen Mar 2022 #112
New Yorker article about Texas families with transgender kids Danmel Mar 2022 #116
I'm sorry I missed this thread... IngridsLittleAngel Mar 2022 #117
They should look at the bright side. By leaving Nutistan, they won't have to worry about Vinca Mar 2022 #118

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,501 posts)
1. How awful for all of them! What happened to "The Land of the Free?"
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:31 PM
Mar 2022

They are doing the right thing, moving to Connecticut.



 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
6. same here , their just sick of Texass period !
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:43 PM
Mar 2022

they think we should just give it back to Mexico!! but, they don't want either !

FakeNoose

(32,535 posts)
9. It's not America ... it's just Texas
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:56 PM
Mar 2022

I'm sorry that this is happening but I believe that it won't last. People in Texas will come to their senses finally and get these assholes out of office, eventually. However it's awful for your relatives, and I'm sorry they're the ones who have to deal with it. It's so unfair.

Elections have consequences, and they DO matter!

niyad

(112,974 posts)
19. I suggest that you look up the bill that the ID house passed yesterday, making
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:21 PM
Mar 2022

it a crime punishable by LIFE IN PRISON for administering, or approving treatment for trans teens, or to send them out of state to receive treatment.

It is NOT " just texas". The rwnj's are digging in to impose American sharia law everywhere they can. Hundreds of bills targeting women's rights, the LGBTQIA+ commu ities. . .education. .the list goes on.

niyad

(112,974 posts)
35. Exactly. I think it is just so far outside rational thought and behaviour that many
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:01 PM
Mar 2022

find it impossible to comprehend.

Hekate

(90,500 posts)
61. The OP just breaks my heart. Someone yesterday said what was going on was "just grandstanding"
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:13 PM
Mar 2022

No — this is REAL. Posters keep spouting that certain things are unconstitutional and will never survive a SCOTUS challenge. No — it already HAS, and more to come.

Three weeks ago we got the news that Griswold (precursor to Roe) is under direct threat, and I felt like I couldn’t even catch my breath. Two days after that Putin attacked Ukraine, and now the horrors in Ukraine are wall to wall coverage.

Meanwhile — the christo-fascists in THIS country are not stopping.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
81. Thank you for saying this
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:36 AM
Mar 2022

I am one of those people who thought this law was "just posturing." I didn't think it had much of a chance to go through. (Foolish pollyanna belief on my part.)

Seeing how this directly affects kids and families is shocking. I'm very concerned for trans kids and their mental health. They face enough challenges as it is. Going after accepting families will just make that worse. Ugh.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
67. That's why they're going after trans people first
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:27 PM
Mar 2022

Sorta like when Germany went after autistics & disabled people as "useless mouths" and used them to perfect the deadly showers on a small scale first.

Chicagogrl1

(417 posts)
10. Unbelievable!!! F*ck Texas!
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:57 PM
Mar 2022

What has this country come to? I am sorry for your family. May they find peace in their new home.

ShazzieB

(16,241 posts)
16. F*ck Texas is right!
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:11 PM
Mar 2022

Last edited Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:04 AM - Edit history (1)

The people who run that state seem to do nothing but LOOK for ways to make things difficult for women, for poc, and for those whose sexuality and/or gender identity do not meet with governmental approval. It would be bad enough if everyone adversely affected could just pack up and leave, but what about all those who can't? It's absolutely horrifying!

And this is the country's second most populous state after California? Good God, what is this country turning into?

keithhs28

(45 posts)
78. Under the very noses of the freedumb convoy truckers...
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:40 AM
Mar 2022

...the country is turning into an autocratic state.

Hassler

(3,363 posts)
11. Sorry things have come to this.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:58 PM
Mar 2022

I saw a story yesterday that an Idaho real estate company is actively recruiting nationwide
to get conservatives to move there (and of course buy houses).

70sEraVet

(3,471 posts)
12. I would have expected corporations with offices, factories, etc. in Texas to complain
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:58 PM
Mar 2022

On top of valuable workers relocating because they are determined to protect their families, there will be other workers in not-insane states who will refuse to be transferred to Lone-Star-Hell.

Rebl2

(13,436 posts)
60. Time for
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:11 PM
Mar 2022

corporations, factories, etc. to threaten to leave these states when they pass these idiotic bills.

Farmer-Rick

(10,129 posts)
87. Yeah my nephew is with a big tax firm there
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 10:10 AM
Mar 2022

He is probably more liberal than I am. I don't understand how he can stand Texas. But he makes really good money there. To make it worse, his Dad, my brother, may have to move to Texas just to see his grandchildren. And my brother is a liberal too.

But I live in Tennessee so I can't complain. But my kids live in LA at least.

Just stay away from Missouri. They are about to pass a law to hunt down pregnant women who dare want an abortion and leave the state to do it. And it's not clear what women it will apply to. Is it permanent residents only or if you pass through the state will you be hunted down if you want an abortion too. Can they force women in other states to do as they say? It sounds almost as bad as the fugitive slave act.

yellowdogintexas

(22,214 posts)
104. If he is in one of the major metropolitan counties, he is in a blue area
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:16 PM
Mar 2022

Dallas, San Antonio (Bexar county), Houston (Harris), Austin (Travis) and El Paso (ElPaso) are all definitely blue. Fort Bend County which borders Harris is also blue. Fort Worth (Tarrant) itself is blue but the county is not quite there yet. Beto did very well in his Senate race and President Biden did also.

It is a slow process I will be angry for the rest of my life because we did not turn out enough voters to take the Texas House majority in 2020. The next Lege drew the maps, made voter suppression worse and passed the abortion law. You know, the one where you can be a bounty hunter if you think a woman might have had an abortion.







Farmer-Rick

(10,129 posts)
106. Well, glad to hear there are islands of blue there
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:24 PM
Mar 2022

I think my nephew is in one of those metropolitan areas. But knowing my nephew, he will not hesitate to spread his liberal ideas wherever he goes. He's not quiet about his political views.

I always admired that about him.

CrispyQ

(36,411 posts)
108. A pregnancy test for every woman crossing state lines.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:46 PM
Mar 2022

If it's positive, no travel pass.

This scares the crap out of me. I hope the 81 million people who voted for Biden are paying attention to what's going on & realize the importance of the midterms.

70sEraVet

(3,471 posts)
114. When I was reading your post, I thought of the fugitive slave act, too
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 07:51 PM
Mar 2022

(I live in Tennessee also - in a very tiny, rural town. Home of big trucks and small minds.)

multigraincracker

(32,629 posts)
13. Good for them. I wish them luck.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 07:59 PM
Mar 2022

I've moved a lot in my life. I kind of like starting over someplace where no one knows me. It has always helped me in my growth as a person.
I'm now living in 4th "forever home".

bucolic_frolic

(43,004 posts)
40. Might be a topic ripe for authorship
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:15 PM
Mar 2022

Lots of people who live for decades in "stuck". Or at least I've not heard the topic mentioned that way before.

multigraincracker

(32,629 posts)
42. I'm not sure about NYC, but
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:27 PM
Mar 2022

I know now that I can survive and do well in almost any place, just enjoy towns with a college or university. I also look for a Blue leaning area. I like to join the local Democratic Party for a start.

bucolic_frolic

(43,004 posts)
44. I just think a lot of people would like to do something like that but don't know how
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:34 PM
Mar 2022

The longer you live someplace the more entrenched one becomes. It's more than just downsizing a household. There are internal calculations, transporting a lifestyle, and mental adjustments. Just a thought. That's my problem, I post my thoughts all day sometimes.

multigraincracker

(32,629 posts)
70. I have only one close relative and no
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:59 PM
Mar 2022

children, that makes easy for me. When I moved out of state last time, I met the love of my life and dragged her with me this time. We may move again sometime. She is close enough, 3 hrs to visit her family.
Thats just and it might not work for everyone.

róisín_dubh

(11,791 posts)
79. You're describing me.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:31 AM
Mar 2022

But I’m about to migrate to a new country. Leaving behind a good job, but it’s in a place I despise.
I’ve been stuck too long and life is too short.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
14. I am very interested to see how much more of this WE are going to take.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:07 PM
Mar 2022

I guess migrating out of red and into blue is fine but that damn electoral college keeps getting in the way of THE PEOPLE.

TomSlick

(11,082 posts)
20. Good call.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:28 PM
Mar 2022

Their daughter will never be safe in Texas. Then again, things would not be much better here in Arkansas.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
21. That is I wanted my Granddaughters in Canada.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:29 PM
Mar 2022

I miss them but they are safe.

Texas was not always this way.

XacerbatedDem

(511 posts)
24. So sad that it's come to that, and in f**king America!
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:31 PM
Mar 2022

What happened to, " life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..."

MontanaMama

(23,292 posts)
25. Women, girls and transgender youth aren't safe in TX.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:32 PM
Mar 2022

There has been a huge influx of Texans moving up here to Montana. There are rumors that they are fleeing liberal influences in TX…I hope that isn’t true…if it is, they will ruin our blue politics here in Missoula. Scares the crap out of me. I hope they are moving here because this is a blue part of Montana.

I wish your family members well. Moving is so stressful.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
26. The local news here in Austin has already reported investigations going on.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:37 PM
Mar 2022

Vigilantes are turning in parents they suspect of having a transgender child. The Texas foster care system is awful, so parents of transgender kids will have to move out of state to keep their kids out of a system that has regular physical and sexual abuse by care providers. No child is truly safe because there are also right-wing teachers who see transgender children in their classes and are in a perfect position to report parents for investigation and possible removal of the child from their care. I cannot believe the absolute cruelty of the Republicans in this state.

DBoon

(22,336 posts)
72. ..."they suspect of having a transgender child."
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 11:16 PM
Mar 2022

So if your child does not conform in every way to their narrow gender stereotypes, you will be under suspicion.

This isn't just about transgender children, this is an attack on anyone who fails to meet their idea of gender roles.

Your daughter wants to study engineering or plays football? You are under suspicion.

Your son wants to study art or doesn't care about football? You are under suspicion.

Don't think that being straight protects you form homophobia.

yellowdogintexas

(22,214 posts)
107. interesting piece about Sharia Law
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:33 PM
Mar 2022
https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/16/world/sharia-law-definition/index.html

a couple of snippets:
The word Sharia means “the path,” or “a road that leads one to water.” It refers to a set of principles that govern the moral and religious lives of Muslims.

“Sharia represents how practicing Muslims can best lead their daily lives in accordance with God’s divine guidance,” according to Teaching Tolerance, a project of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
(snip)

Shariah law, according to Muslims, includes “the principle of treating other people justly, of making sure that the financial system treats people fairly … and most importantly the basic principles of Islamic fate,” says Harvard Law professor Noah Feldman.

It encompasses things like marriage, divorce, inheritance and punishments for criminal offenses.

blue sky at night

(3,242 posts)
29. there is only one hope for that shithole...
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:43 PM
Mar 2022

Beto O'Roarke, I wouldn't live there or anywhere in the south really...

LaMouffette

(2,017 posts)
32. I can't help but think this is part of a larger scheme to drive liberals out of red states and
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:53 PM
Mar 2022

to discourage out-of-state liberals from moving to red states in the future.

These bastards are trying to "cleanse" their historically Republican states of Democratic voters so that they can keep Texas, Missouri, Florida, etc., solidly red.

dlk

(11,506 posts)
33. Republicans are on a rabid, hate-filled mission to turn back the clock
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:54 PM
Mar 2022

They will ultimately fail. I’m very sorry for the anguish they’ve caused your relatives and wish them every good thing.

Mr.Bill

(24,219 posts)
34. I have a brother in law who is also leaving Texas.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 08:59 PM
Mar 2022

He has no kids and is retired.

Oh, he's moving to Florida.

Mr.Bill

(24,219 posts)
62. Well, his move doesn't really
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:13 PM
Mar 2022

have to do with politics that much. He and his wife lived most of their life in Southern California. They both retired with huge six-figure pensions. The move to Texas was all about taxes. His wife's career had her traveling all over the Caribbean and central America for many years. She really wants to move there but he won't leave the USA. Florida is a compromise. One that he will regret, I'm sure.

johnsolaris

(220 posts)
41. your hate does not help.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:20 PM
Mar 2022

Hi,

It is sad to see the Hate & Filth that I usually associate with Republicans being spread on the DU. Those of us that live here in Texas understand fully the extent of the battle being waged. We are outnumbered, outspent, & excuse me, outgunned. That does not mean we are giving up, I have lived in Texas my entire life & I will not abandon the fight. It would be nice to see a bit of support instead of Hate. It is sad the moderators allow this.

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
45. Seriously? I've re-read the OP 3 times, and I don't see a bit of hate. Fear, absolutely,
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:35 PM
Mar 2022

and perhaps even terror, which is more than justified, given the circumstances.

Riddle me this, Sir - can you tell me if the Jews who made the decision to leave Germany in the years prior to the start of WWII were exhibiting "hate"?

I read something very recently that made an incredible point about human nature in general. It stated that most people are essentially looking for 3 things in life - to be safe, to be loved, and to be free. It's obvious that some Texas legislators are trying to take all of those things from a certain segment of society.

vercetti2021

(10,155 posts)
48. I am
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:47 PM
Mar 2022

This state is too far up its own dumbass its never gonna change. Being transgender myself. It's only a matter of time before they outright ban transitioning all together. Not sticking around in this fascist shithole much longer anyways.

Ocelot II

(115,543 posts)
52. I didn't see any hate by the OP. I saw sadness and fear because the TX legislature
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:53 PM
Mar 2022

passed a hateful law that endangers that family to the point where they felt they had no choice but to leave the state. The majority GOP in the TX legislature obviously does not reflect the values of many residents of the state, but it's certainly fair to excoriate those legislators.

mopinko

(69,968 posts)
90. i see you dont post much, despite being here a decade.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 10:34 AM
Mar 2022

apparently dont know how the place works. there havent been mods for YEARS now.
just juries of your peers. and lucky for you, cuz back in the day, i think this may well have been taken down as a personal attack on the op.

ismnotwasm

(41,952 posts)
93. Hi!
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 12:11 PM
Mar 2022

It is sad to see the lack of concern and compassion I usually associate with Republicans being spread on “the DU”

This is a *very* interesting comment however.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
94. Do you have a transgender child?
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 12:39 PM
Mar 2022

If not, your situation is entirely different from the terror this family is facing. Are you willing to sacrifice your child to continue the fight?

Random Boomer

(4,167 posts)
105. Native-born Texan here
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:19 PM
Mar 2022

You're objecting to people calling out and condemning hateful legislation and hateful politicians in the state of Texas? You see the fear and revulsion of this fascist behavior as somehow hate directed toward you personally?

Isn't that special....

BlueSky3

(509 posts)
43. I wonder if red states will
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:30 PM
Mar 2022

experience a “brain drain” as people refuse to move there for tech jobs or anything else, really. It seems possible that the companies who’ve moved to Texas recently will finder it harder to meet their recruitment quotas.

DBoon

(22,336 posts)
73. They would be happy if that happened
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 11:19 PM
Mar 2022

As prior poster mentioned, this may be intended to prevent educated and more liberal people from moving into the state.

vercetti2021

(10,155 posts)
50. Good on them
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:48 PM
Mar 2022

I'm glad they have a place to go from this fascist shithole state. I'm going to leave myself within the next couple of years to Colorado or New Mexico. Maybe Spokane so I can be with my bestie. Being transgender myself and being in this state. I feel absolutely unsafe despite having a concealed weapon on me constantly now

calimary

(81,058 posts)
55. I'm so sorry you have to go through this.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 09:56 PM
Mar 2022

I'm sorry that your family has to face this.

It IS hard to believe this is America sometimes.

Hekate

(90,500 posts)
57. That just breaks my heart. I am so glad they are leaving like that, like NOW
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:04 PM
Mar 2022

May all of them find safety and happiness in a new life out of Texas.

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
58. Get out while you can.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:05 PM
Mar 2022

In Idaho it’s a felony to leave the state with a trans child.
Sorry this is happening to you.

Hekate

(90,500 posts)
63. If the whole family moves, can they really make that stick? Are families able to send a child ahead
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:15 PM
Mar 2022

…to relatives?

I. Just. Can’t.

Karma13612

(4,536 posts)
74. You mean that you are not
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 11:22 PM
Mar 2022

Free to leave one state and move to another?

How is that legal? The family can’t move? That sounds like state imprisonment or something.

I mean, if the father/husband gets a job in another state, he can’t move his family? Or he needs to abandon his child to who? A stranger? The state? A church?

Can you clarify this law??

This sounds totally unconstitutional.

bucolic_frolic

(43,004 posts)
64. That is just terrible
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:15 PM
Mar 2022

Sure hope the political winds turn in the country. Families are incurring a lot of costs of moving. Ripe for class action.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
66. This is terrible and I'm so sorry
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:26 PM
Mar 2022

The hate is off the scale, and the vigilantism is terrifying. Sad to say but I think they're smart to get out. It shouldn't have to be that way. Wishing them all the best.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
69. That young woman has a good family.
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 10:32 PM
Mar 2022

I've heard people say, "stay and fight" without fully realizing that means trans teens would be forced to undergo an unmanaged puberty, - which is exactly what the Republicans want.

Not everyone can leave; for some it's financially or physically simply not possible. There are efforts being cobbled together to try to help them, but it won't be enough.

Moving is hard even under the best of circumstances, when it's planned in order to make a family's life better. Families of trans teens in Texas are being forced to move under the worst of circumstances.

As I've pointed out elsewhere:

The definition of terrorism is, "The use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

young_at_heart

(3,763 posts)
71. My daughter and her husband left 5 years ago
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 11:14 PM
Mar 2022

We (and they) were happy then and after reading this I am grateful that they did leave and we never have to set foot in that state again!

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
77. Show them this - it might give some hope
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:20 AM
Mar 2022

But I don't blame them for leaving.


Texas loses appeal over investigation of transgender teen’s family
By ANDREW DeMILLO
Published: Mar. 9, 2022 at 12:53 PM EST|Updated: 5 hours ago

(AP) – A Texas court on Wednesday tossed out the state’s appeal of an order preventing child welfare officials from investigating the parents of a transgender teenager over gender-confirming care the youth received.

The Texas 3rd Court of Appeals dismissed Republican Attorney General Ken Paxton’s appeal of the temporary order a judge issued last week halting the investigation by the Department of Family and Protective Services into the parents of the 16-year-old girl.

The court ruled that the judge’s temporary order was not appealable.

The parents sued over the investigation and Republican Gov. Greg Abbott’s order that officials look into reports of such treatments as abuse. The lawsuit marked the first report of parents being investigated following Abbott’s directive and an earlier nonbinding legal opinion by Paxton labeling certain gender-confirming treatments as “child abuse.”

More: https://www.kwtx.com/app/2022/03/09/texas-loses-appeal-over-investigation-transgender-teens-family/?outputType=apps


Danmel

(4,906 posts)
83. Fairfield County
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 08:34 AM
Mar 2022

I don't remember the town. It's his stepdaughters house. I haven't been to their home. But they are lovely people with adorable little kids.

drbtg1

(1,054 posts)
101. Ah, Connecticut! The land where, when Republican politicians commit crimes,..
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:15 PM
Mar 2022

...they actually go to jail! Just ask Waterbury mayor Philip Giordano or Governor John Rowland!

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
85. Maybe we could just give Texas to Russia.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 09:53 AM
Mar 2022

tell them to call off the war with Ukraine and just give them Russia. Texas wants put of the IS. They seem to support ideas that russia supports. heck it’d be a win-win in my book!

PittBlue

(4,221 posts)
86. This is horrifying.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 09:54 AM
Mar 2022

I never imagined that the fascists would take control. We cannot let this continue.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
88. Welcome to Texas, The Nazi State
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 10:24 AM
Mar 2022

I have refused to set foot in Texas since 1979, because of some really nasty, mean people I encountered there.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
92. So disappointing. I was hoping Texas would turn blue soon
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 12:00 PM
Mar 2022

and then things would get better for all Texans

Caliman73

(11,721 posts)
97. Very sad, but not that hard to believe.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 12:49 PM
Mar 2022

It wasn't more than 60 years ago that Black people couldn't sit at the same lunch counter as White people. It wasn't until the late 1960's that all laws against miscegenation (interracial marriage) were nullified.

We make ourselves out to be this shining bastion of civil liberties, and in some ways we are good, but I for one, do not find it hard at all to believe that this is America. I have never bought into the idea of American Exceptionalism. We have a promising foundation in rhetoric, when other countries at the time were ruled by absolute monarchs. Since then however, other countries have done MUCH more to protect the rights of their citizens, especially minority groups.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,558 posts)
98. Friends of mine are fleeing the country.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:05 PM
Mar 2022

Oddly, they have both had dual citizenship for at least decades. (My friend Stu, from birth.) For several years, they were snowbirds in Sun City AZ in the winter, and summered on a lovely lake upisland.

They loved their lifestyle - who wouldn't? - and even bore the $1500 a month medical insurance while in the US quite willingly. Now, some of the craziness has reached their neighbourhood, and they can't seem to get away from it anywhere in AZ, so they're selling and moving back to the Island full-time.

cab67

(2,990 posts)
99. eventually, Texas legislators will think twice about all of this social bullying.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:22 PM
Mar 2022

They'll have to.

I know others have pointed out the positive spin many Texas extremists see in the brain drain - it diminishes a certain voting bloc.

But eventually, it won't just be the tech companies and universities. A lot of corporations - including in the oil and gas industry - will find it harder and harder to bring in top talent.

It might even impact professional sports teams in the state.

This is going to hit Texas in its wallet in the long run. We're nowhere near that tipping point yet, but at some point, it'll come.

It hurts me to see this happening. I went to grad school in Texas. I fell in love with several parts of the state.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
100. It is fascism and we will have to end it.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:40 PM
Mar 2022

America we must act. Call texass what it is a fascist state.

Lydiarose

(68 posts)
102. Don't Say Gay Bill Passed in Florida
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:56 PM
Mar 2022

And Governor DeSatan is getting ready to sign it into law. Teachers are not allowed to mention the word gay in the K-3 classrooms. And in higher grades, LGBTQ discussions need to be "age appropriate" although there are no guidelines for that. Teachers are not allowed to recognize that a child has two mommies or two daddies.

Now what kills me about this is that DeSatan brags about Florida being the freest state in the union because he outlawed mask mandates and mandatory vaccinations. Free? Only free to do as he dictates.

Florida also passed a law limiting abortions to within 15 weeks! Totally stripping women of their rights to their own bodies! Free my arse!

maxsolomon

(33,231 posts)
109. "they are being threatened with arrest and loss of custody."
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:56 PM
Mar 2022

if it's not too personal, can you give some info on who's threatening them (CPS?), and what they've done that prompted the threat?

Danmel

(4,906 posts)
110. Their daughter is transitioning
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:31 PM
Mar 2022

She's 16. Parents are being threatened. They are afraid someone will turn them in.

maxsolomon

(33,231 posts)
113. Thanks.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 07:17 PM
Mar 2022

Hostile neighbors or classmates' parents, then - not authorities yet. Unfortunately, the law will need a test case in order to get tossed out.

Behind the Aegis

(53,914 posts)
115. Here's your test case.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 12:07 AM
Mar 2022

A mom who invited Texas AG Ken Paxton to meet her transgender son is being investigated
Amber Briggle says her long fight over gender-affirming care wasn’t a choice but her duty. Her Texas family is under investigation after state Attorney General Ken Paxton issued a legal opinion this year saying gender-affirming treatments for transgender children constitutes child abuse. Later, Gov. Greg Abbott instructed the Department of Family and Protective Services to investigate any reported instances of such treatments.

The Briggles are now the target of such an investigation.

“I’m really not great,” Amber Briggle said. “Actually, my hair is falling out, I can’t sleep. It’s not – we’re not good.”

Briggle’s son is transgender. Back in 2016, she told Texas Standard she invited Paxton over to dinner to “put a human face” to the struggle for transgender rights that Paxton was challenging at the time via opposition to public school bathroom guidelines outlined by the Obama administration.

Today, Briggle tells the Standard that the open investigation by Child Protective Services, or CPS, is causing an immense amount of stress, but she and her husband are trying to shield their kids from the details.

https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/texas-mom-who-invited-ken-paxton-for-dinner-to-meet-transgender-son-says-shes-now-losing-her-hair-over-an-investigation-prompted-by-his-opinion/


Jilly_in_VA

stollen

(419 posts)
112. Welcome to Fascism
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:57 PM
Mar 2022

What a pity. Americans have several countries that can provide past practice examples of what NOT to do when building a government. America's response? DON'T TREAD ON ME!

Danmel

(4,906 posts)
116. New Yorker article about Texas families with transgender kids
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 10:54 AM
Mar 2022



At Home with the Families Affected by Texas’s New Anti-Trans Orders
After Governor Greg Abbott called medical care for trans children “child abuse,” their families began weighing their options.

By Rachel Monroe

March 9, 2022
Last Tuesday, when Matt Kent picked up his sixteen-year-old son, Jackson, from an appointment, Jackson could tell that “something was off,” he said. Matt is a pilot with a neat beard and a controlled manner, but something had disturbed his typical restraint. He didn’t tell Jackson what was wrong right away. “I wanted to gather my thoughts before unleashing something dumb out of my mouth,” Matt said when we spoke a few days later. All families interviewed for this story asked to use pseudonyms to protect their privacy.

At home, on Galveston Island, Jackson learned the news that had disturbed his father. Ken Paxton, the attorney general of Texas, had issued a nonbinding legal opinion classifying gender-affirming medical care for trans children as child abuse. A few hours later, Governor Greg Abbott published an order reinforcing Paxton’s statement, noting that doctors, nurses, teachers, and members of the public who fail to report such “abuse” to authorities may be subject to criminal penalties.




https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-southwest/at-home-with-the-families-affected-by-texass-new-anti-trans-orders?utm_medium=social&utm_brand=tny&mbid=social_facebook&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=facebook
 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
117. I'm sorry I missed this thread...
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 03:29 AM
Mar 2022

And I'm so sorry to hear what this young girl and her family are going through, all thanks to the fascist leadership in Texas and their neverending attack upon the trans community.

Being 16 is hard enough as it is, even if straight and cisgender and all that. But toss in the struggles of being trans and finding yourself and being your true self, while being surrounded by bigots, and being targeted by the government, and possibly CPS and law enforcement...

This is terrifying and heartbreaking. No one should have to go through this.. Especially someone at such a young age, who is part of such a vulnerable group.

I know a lot of people here are of the belief to "stay and fight." But that family needs to do what is best for them. Period. If they feel it's moving to New England? Do it. If they feel it's staying and fighting? Do it. While fighting back is needed, that's what we have the ACLU and the like for... And these parents must do what is best to protect their child from a system that is now working to harm children like their daughter.

I wish them all the best. May they stay safe. May that trans girl be looked out for and protected.

Sadly, though, I can believe this is America. I've watched this kind of hatred and bigotry brew for a long time. But after feeling emboldened by Dolt 45, and now throwing a tantrum because he's no longer president... They aren't holding back anymore. It's a horrible time to be a trans person if you're in the wrong part of this country, and, it's only going to get worse until they are stopped.

Vinca

(50,233 posts)
118. They should look at the bright side. By leaving Nutistan, they won't have to worry about
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 07:24 AM
Mar 2022

freezing to death in the winter anymore. I could never understand why people want to live there in the first place.

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