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babylonsister

(171,032 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2022, 11:55 PM Mar 2022

Ex-Obama Adviser Fact-Checks Fox Anchor on Keystone XL


Ex-Obama Adviser Fact-Checks Fox Anchor on Keystone XL
‘NOT ACTUALLY DEBATABLE’
Robert Wolf was asked to respond to recent Republican criticisms that Biden’s decision to nix the pipeline has come back to bite him in the form of high gas prices.
William Vaillancourt
Published Mar. 09, 2022 9:23PM ET
Fox News

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Robert Wolf, a member of the president’s Export Council from 2014 to 2016, was asked to respond to an increasingly frequent Republican argument that the Biden administration shouldn’t have nixed the Keystone XL pipeline because it would have helped prevent the current rise in oil and gas prices.

“Perhaps opening up the Keystone pipeline is not off the table for this White House?” Smith asked after playing a clip of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) accusing the Biden administration of being “unfriendly” to oil and gas companies.

“I think [the pipeline] is off the table,” Wolf said. “And let’s recall a few things: One, it’s the worst type of oil you can have. It’s tar sands going from Alberta to the Gulf of Mexico. It wasn’t going to really change anything to do with our oil supply. It was to export from the Gulf of Mexico.”

Smith, who has been fact-checked on-air by a former Obama adviser before, then interjected, “That’s debatable.”

“It’s not actually debatable,” Wolf replied. “[The pipeline] has nothing to do with oil fields. It’s a pipeline that was going to end in the Gulf of Mexico. That’s a fact, and you should look it up.”


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Ex-Obama Adviser Fact-Checks Fox Anchor on Keystone XL (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2022 OP
That was a good summary of Fox. Douchey is hailed as a hero underpants Mar 2022 #1
"...That's a fact, and you should look it up." dchill Mar 2022 #2
WTF? Disaffected Mar 2022 #3
Cheaper and easier than getting it by truck or train to the coast for shipping. brush Mar 2022 #4
The Keystone pipeline already runs from Canada to TX Kaleva Mar 2022 #5
+1, FAUX disinformation is on Russian scale of fucked up. If you read TASS.com you'd SWEAR UP uponit7771 Mar 2022 #6
"One, it's the worst type of oil you can have." A HERETIC I AM Mar 2022 #7

underpants

(182,603 posts)
1. That was a good summary of Fox. Douchey is hailed as a hero
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 12:34 AM
Mar 2022

The videos we watch of him embarassing himself with Psaki are framed as victories. He gets credit for just asking the question. Regardless of what she says (sometimes they barely show it) she’s avoiding the question.

Wolf did correct the host but she exhibited textbook Fox. She read bulleted talking points without asking a question. When Wolf finished she offered a summary that had nothing to with what he’d just said.

Stephen Moore. One of the most bizarre Trump picks. Trump nominated him for the Fed. Moore has impressive degrees but now he’s a TV News personality propped up by think tanks. No one takes him seriously.

Disaffected

(4,545 posts)
3. WTF?
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:55 AM
Mar 2022

The Alberta oil sands production was to be delivered by Keystone XL primarily to refineries in Port Arthur, Texas, not for export as crude oil. It was desirable to send the crude oil to that location as there are existing refineries there that can process that type of crude.

If Canadian producers wanted only to export the oil as crude, why transport it all the way to a port in Texas?

Kaleva

(36,246 posts)
5. The Keystone pipeline already runs from Canada to TX
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:57 AM
Mar 2022

It's been in operation since 2016. The proposed Keystone XL line would run from Canada to Steele City NE where it would tie in with the existing Keystone pipeline

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
6. +1, FAUX disinformation is on Russian scale of fucked up. If you read TASS.com you'd SWEAR UP
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 07:51 AM
Mar 2022

... AND DOWN you were reading a FAUX News site just with Russian culture instead of US.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
7. "One, it's the worst type of oil you can have."
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 08:13 AM
Mar 2022

Basically the consistency of warm peanut butter.

I heard an industry person describe it that way a few years ago. That the tar sand has to be heated to make it so it can be pumped, and since it is mostly sand, it is extremely corrosive to the inside of the pipe. I will concede that I am by no means an expert on this subject and may be laboring under a misapprehension.

The other thing it seems is rarely mentioned is one of the by-products of turning it into useful fuels; Sand. Mountains of sand. Black sand, at that. Because you can't really get every single atom of the tar out of it, you have enormous amounts of barely usable black sand left over.

And "mining" it just turns the environment into this;







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