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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:22 AM Mar 2022

By OPEC refusing to increase oil production to decrease rising prices,

They've sided with Putin, and justification now for the US and Europe to start switching to self energy reliance, and a massive program for renewables and electric vehicle production to eliminate any dependence on foreign terrorist oil , and the money paid to them being used as a weapon against us.

Auto companies need to design lower costing and more economical cars now to help make this happen quicker, and get away from being held hostage with oil from terrorist countries anymore. It also helps reduce climate change, which is also costing us all, and will only worsen and become more costly the longer we wait.

Russia and OPEC can go xxxx themselves. The USA needs to now promote conservation of energy until the reductions are realized, and new EV's are mass produced, as renewable production is increased or be held hostage, and see them terrorize us and others again and again.

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By OPEC refusing to increase oil production to decrease rising prices, (Original Post) duforsure Mar 2022 OP
Yup! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #1
OPEC just said yesterday they're increasing JoanofArgh Mar 2022 #2
They are still terrorist, duforsure Mar 2022 #3
So the response and information didn't fit your narrative? Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #4
No, duforsure Mar 2022 #7
We should have done so in the 1970s Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #10
Absolutely correct, we should have started in the 1970's MacKasey Mar 2022 #13
Yes the 70's. duforsure Mar 2022 #14
They literally said they are increasing it obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #5
UAE suggested it. Did anyone else go along JT45242 Mar 2022 #6
I don't trust them either, duforsure Mar 2022 #8
Punch Putin in the kidneys - Heat Pumps for Peace and Freedom Celerity Mar 2022 #9
Maybe, just maybe their self interests don't coincide with malaise Mar 2022 #11
Don't forget that the Orange Anus threatened to cut military aid to Saudi Arabia unless Opec cut CentralMass Mar 2022 #12

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
2. OPEC just said yesterday they're increasing
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:28 AM
Mar 2022

oil production according to the UAE causing oil prices to drop

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
7. No,
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 07:36 AM
Mar 2022

we should move to quit supporting anyone who promotes terrorism, or uses oil as a weapon against us. Also to decrease use of dirty energy which when climate change is factored in the cost is much greater . By conserving it also drives our cost down, along with their profit. Self reliance is also a national security benefit .

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
10. We should have done so in the 1970s
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 07:46 AM
Mar 2022

We didn’t.

Yes, self reliance is a national security issue and has been for a very long time, that it may perhaps becoming a bit more obvious to some is a good thing. Unfortunately we are currently in the boat we are in and will be for at least the short to mid term foreseeable future.

All that said, doesn’t change my original response.

MacKasey

(983 posts)
13. Absolutely correct, we should have started in the 1970's
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 07:54 AM
Mar 2022

I remember OPEC oil embargo

In New Jersey we had to go to odd and even days based on last digit of license plate and have less than a half of tank to stop the long lines when people went crazy

Once gas was cheap again everyone forgot

JT45242

(2,252 posts)
6. UAE suggested it. Did anyone else go along
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 07:28 AM
Mar 2022

I'll wait until opec countries actually increase production before I trust them.

UAE is likely hurting from the Russian sanctions., Their government stated goal is to become the banking center of the world, since oil cannot be the long term economic solution.

UAE is a major holder and launderer of Russian oligarchs money. So not taking their percentage of money exchange is likely hurting the economy.

I don't agree with the name calling, but the reduced reliance on opec and Russian oil, would be good for all democratic countries.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
8. I don't trust them either,
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 07:40 AM
Mar 2022

They have supported terrorism, plus puts us in a situation we can be made hostage to them . Haven't increased it yet either.

malaise

(268,726 posts)
11. Maybe, just maybe their self interests don't coincide with
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 07:52 AM
Mar 2022

that of the US and its allies.
There are lots of so called sovereign countries on the planet and we are not your colonies.

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