Lawsuit seeks to stop group's door-to-door voter fraud hunt

[MissMillie]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lawsuit-seeks-to-stop-groups-door-to-door-voter-fraud-hunt/ar-AAUQPq9?li=BBnb7Kz

I almost posted this in GD, but wasn't sure it belonged there.

DENVER (AP) — A coalition of civil and voting rights organizations invoked the 19th-century Ku Klux Klan Act in a lawsuit filed Wednesday seeking to stop a group of Donald Trump supporters from going door-to-door in Colorado in a search for already-debunked voter fraud.

The suit against the U.S. Election Integrity Plan alleges that the group's activities include photographing voters' homes and “door-to-door voter intimidation” in areas where a high number of minorities live. The group was founded after Trump lost the 2020 election to Democrat Joe Biden and made false claims of mass voter fraud.

Shawn Smith, a retired Air Force colonel who runs the group, did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent to Cause for America, a separate “election integrity” group he runs. USEIP has no listed phone number or email.

The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Colorado on behalf of the state chapter of the NAACP, the League of Women Voters and Mi Familia Vota.

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If someone knocked on my door questioning my vote, I wouldn't answer them. I don't know why ANYONE would answer them.

Nothing scientific about this project. There's no way to verify how someone voted--because that is PRIVATE.

[ck4829]

1. This is going to have consequences for them down the road

All this moaning about elections being "stolen", if they get the majority in 2022, what proof would they have that it is a legitimate majority? How would they know their majority is legitimate?

[mucifer]

2. It's actually public information which party you voted for and when

[gab13by13]

4. Then how does that work for people

who split their ballots? Is a registered Republican not allowed to vote for a Democrat?

[MissMillie]

7. Are you sure about that?

I think one's party registration may be public, but in a general election, everyone gets the same ballot, so there's no way to know.

I THINK.

[hlthe2b]

10. Yes, which party you are REGISTERED with, but NOT who or which party you voted for

[iemanja]

20. Not all states have party registration

Mine doesn't. They can track how they think you vote, however, through software the parties have. It's quite accurate.

[hlthe2b]

21. Software assuming party-line voting has lots of error outside of the top of the ticket candidates.

Sure. Anyone can make assumptions...

[iemanja]

22. Well, they've figured out I'm a loyal Dem

So I'm more likely to get contacted for volunteering and money--which I rarely give over the phone--than voter turnout, unless it's for a specific candidate in the primary/caucuses.

But you're probably right that there are a lot of errors, now that I think about my experiences doing phone banking.

[hlthe2b]

8. Not if you file a confidential voter affidavit--as you can in nearly any state for reasons largely

related to stalking threats or domestic violence, although there can be other reasons. It is somewhat of a hassle in some states, but I don't want my personal information including contact information made public so I did so. In Colorado, it merely means going to the Voter Registrar's office for your county and filing the papers. It does mean I have to contact that local office directly to ensure my ballot has been received, rather than check the Secretary of State's online site, but that has not been a major hassle.

[hlthe2b]

9. It is public information IF you are registered (& which party), when you voted but NOT WHO

you voted for nor the party.

[gab13by13]

3. Remember the Cyber Ninjas, who Garland did nothing to stop?

The one thing that Merrick Garland did do was to write a stern letter to that fake company. Part of that stern letter was telling them not to go door to door doing exactly what other fraudits are doing now.

For all of you Be Patient crowd, this is yet another example where DOJ is failing to act. The Cyber Ninjas ignored Merrick Garland and all of these other pro-Trump fraudsters are deliberately ignoring even that stern letter.

Merrick Garland said it in his confirmation hearing that he would not be partisan. My question is, was he only speaking to members of the Republican party when he said this?

[hlthe2b]

5. I would call the police if they were photographing around my house or stayed at my front door

more than a minute or so. I might call through the door and tell them that I didn't care why they were there that they were unwelcome & trespassing and to leave before calling the police, depending on how many were there. While I have no guns and am opposed to having them, I might just tell them to remember homeowners have the right to protect against intruders or those threatening on their property, so if told to leave, they MUST.

[gab13by13]

6. You wouldn't have to go through that

had Merrick Garland stopped the fraudulent, pro-Trump Cyber Ninjas. As it is now it is basically citizens groups that are trying to stop these fraudsters. It was a citizen's group that filed a FOIA to get documents from the Cyber Ninjas which a judge agreed must be turned over. The fake company is just laughing at the judge, at his document request, and at the thousands of dollars per day fines that the judge imposed on them. The Cyber Ninjas just don't give a shit because it is a fake company with a mailbox for an office. Our DOJ allowed a pro-Trump fake company have access to ballots, voter information, election materials and equipment all in violation of federal and state law. Maybe Garland is waiting to build a bigger case against them or maybe he is afraid of having to give them discovery information?

[maxrandb]

15. JFC - We aren't the Soviet Union

This is it least the second post where you attempt to deflect the blame for this fascist shit from the Retrumplican Party that is funding and driving it, to the Democratic Administration.

To reference Jaws, this wasn't Merick Garland, this wasn't a boat propeller, or a barracuda, or Jack the Ripper...this is the Retrumplican Party!

Please stop blaming Merick Garland because he isn't acting like the Gestapo, or the Russian FSB!

You, as an American citizen, can go make a citizens arrest.

Seriously, just go and kick in some doors and slap the handcuffs on whoever you "feel" should be arrested.

I will continue to support Democrats and Merick Garland.

After all, we should at least have one party that stands for the rule of law.

What you are suggesting is not law...it's authoritarian.

You are doing nothing but blaming Democrats for atrocities committed by Retrumplicans.

[gab13by13]

18. Merrick Garland is not a partisan member of the Democratic administration,

Thank god our AG is non-partisan, he should not act like Bill Barr, he should not be labeled a Democrat. The AG needs to prosecute people who break the law no matter their party affiliation.

What the Cyber Ninjas did was violate the law, I posted dozens of times the actual statutes that were violated.

Do you honestly believe that the Cyber Ninjas did not break the law? Just answer me that one question and then I will go back and dig up the law that was broken.

Surely you are not taking the side of the pro-Trump fake company that was given access to all of that material and equipment that was, by law, supposed to remain in the possession of election officials? Just because Arizona Republicans requested the fraudit does not make it legal. I will be astonished to find out if you believe that the Ninjas did not break the law, state and federal law.

What Democrats don't I support? You insinuate that I don't.

So what about the letter that Mr. Garland sent to Cyber Ninjas that specifically stated he did not want them going door to door doing more fraudits? Do you remember that letter? Tell me why it is suddenly OK with DOJ to allow this to go on in numerous states? Was that letter just a suggestion?

You are aware that the Cyber Ninjas are a fake company, right? They have a mail box address for an office. Why can't a judge get documents from them? Why can't a judge collect fines that he imposed from them?

Our DOJ screwed up by not prosecuting the Cyber Ninjas for breaking the law, and that fact does not make me anti-Democratic.

You, on the other hand, seem to be taking the side of the Cyber Ninjas. Do you also agree with all of the other fraudits that have spawned from non-action on the Cyber Ninjas?

We had fair elections, elections that were audited by the states, elections that passed SC challenges, but now we have the practice established that with all of that if the Republican party does not like the outcome of a free, audited, and fair election it is now permitted to pick a fake company to do another fraudit and that fake company can have access to ballots and election materials.

Damned right I am pizzed. This is now a practice.

[maxrandb]

19. It doesn't matter whether you, or I think Cyber Ninjas broke the law

What matters is whether or not DOJ feels they did, and should be prosecuted.

Just in January, the CEO of Cyber Ninjas was required by an AZ judge to sit for a deposition in a case brought by Oversight America and Arizona Newspapers.

Maybe DOJ is willing to let state courts and lawsuits do their work.

My respect for President Biden's DOJ and Merick Garland does not equate to support for the Cyber Ninjas dumbfucks.

And yes, it's nice to live in a country where the DOJ isn't an arm of whatever political party happens to be in charge.

I would love to see DOJ and the FBI raid Moron-Lago and drag the entire Donnie Dipshit KKKlan out it shackles with burlap bags over their heads, but then I would have to admit that America didn't exist anymore.

Look, every time we blame Democrats for the atrocities committed by Retrumplicans, it weakens the Democratic Party.

To me, slamming DOJ for moving too slow as they investigate complex and overlapping matters of law, is no different than saying Hillary is just ask bad as Donnie Dipshit.

Where did that little "ditty" get us?

Cyber Ninjas is getting dragged through multiple courts. They have gotten away with NOTHING!

Merick Garland has done nothing to make me question his integrity, honesty and commitment to the rule of law.

That is going to do a hell of a lot more to heal this country than wondering why he's not arresting the people we feel need arresting fast enough.

You and the Retrumplicans can play the Red Queen "sentence first-then trial" card if you want, but I won't play that game.

[duhneece]

11. I'm following because our County Commissioners 'hired' Echo Mail

To do the same

[gab13by13]

12. Who is Echo Mail?

[duhneece]

13. They were hired by AZ Senators for Maricopa phony audit

https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/5697839001

[duhneece]

16. More

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/08/bizarre-voter-fraud-hunt-new-mexico-county-trump-won-by-25-points/

[ck4829]

14. "Yes, the Venezuelans paid me to vote three billion times. Bye."

[MarineCombatEngineer]

17. If any of those jackass type ever knock on my door,

they will be met with very hostile intent.

[Midnight Writer]

23. So we paper the internet with stories about the "guv'mint" going around checking how you voted.

Posts exposing the liberal plot for G-men to knock on voters doors and find out how they vote so they can sic the IRS on any Republicans.

Let these asshats get greeted at the door by their own base holding shotguns to their noses.

[sinkingfeeling]

24. I'd slam the door in the face of anyone prying into my votes.