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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYep, bad news is ...SLOWLY ... starting to hit informed Russians ... slowly
https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-russias-state-tv-admits-ukraine-disaster-has-putin-in-troubleThis is from one of the sanctioned Russian talk show pundits coming to reality...
...the suffering of one group of innocents does not compensate for the suffering of other innocent people... I dont see the probability of denazification of such an enormous country. We would need to bring in 1.5 million soldiers to control all of it. At the same time, I dont see any political power that would consolidate the Ukrainian society in a pro-Russian direction... Those who talked of their mass attraction [of Ukranianes] to Russia obviously didnt see things the way they are. ....
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... What are they achieving by prolonging the war? First of all, public opinion within Russia is changing. People are shocked by the masses of refugees, the humanitarian catastrophe, people start to imagine themselves in their place. Its starting to affect them. To say that the Nazis are doing that is not quite convincing, strictly speaking... On top of that, economic sanctions will start to affect them, and seriously. There will probably be scarcity. A lot of products we dont produce, even the simplest ones. Therell be unemployment. They really thought through these sanctions, theyre hitting us with real continuity. Its a well-planned operation... Yes, this is a war of the United States with Russia... These sanctions are hitting us very precisely.
JustAnotherGen
(31,780 posts)That is precisely why they are 'claiming' why a bioweapons lab built by the USA was in Ukraine.
They DESPERATELY want Biden to send American Soldiers into Ukraine.
For them its a 'better war' to fight against a super power.
Right now - the entire world knows they are just a lawless, vicious, war crime committing bully.
So that talk show host? He got his marching orders from the top. Tell them there are Americans there they are fighting against.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Game over at that point.
JustAnotherGen
(31,780 posts)Just more disinformation on their part.
We are the big bad mean Americans. You know and I know - they lose against us.
They need to keep Russian folks thinking that Russia is the victim.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,249 posts)and the Russian High Command very well knows that in a conventional fight, the US Military would annihilate the Russian Military.
Drum
(9,084 posts)RAB910
(3,485 posts)the GOP's misinformation campaigns. Change the names and the stories stay the same
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)Nevilledog
(50,986 posts)Link to tweet
Julia Ioffe
@juliaioffe
Head of RT tweets a new song lyric:
"European, tell it like it is,
Speak up:
The Russian is your new kike,
You want to burn us all in an oven."
Маргарита Симоньян
@M_Simonyan
Государственное издание, Россия
Европеец, ты как есть скажи,
Не молчи:
Русский для вас - это новый жид.
Сжечь бы нас всех в печи.
Новая песня Шнура. Все так и есть, конечно.
12:55 PM · Mar 10, 2022
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)Torchlight
(3,292 posts)it served greater purpose for him. Maybe those purposes are in line with drawing down while saving face, or maybe they're simply designed to give false impression. Or just gauge opinion in a wide-scale blind-study.
Maybe I'm completely off base and the station has gone moderate-rogue, but the station is wholly state-owned and operated. Unless the broadcaster himself broke with the message and took the station by surprise.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts).... With the excuse that the sanctions will cripple Russia for decades versus he's losing his ass in Ukraine