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Ohio Joe

(21,748 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:04 PM Mar 2022

'Trump Will Be Charged,' Kirschner Concludes After AG Garland's Remarks

Former U.S. Army Prosecutor Glenn Kirschner concluded that former President Donald Trump "will be charged" in connection with the January 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol and the effort to overturn the 2020 election results after new remarks from Attorney General Merrick Garland.

In an interview with NPR that aired on Thursday, Garland said "everyone" who committed crimes related to January 6 would face accountability.

"We begin with the cases that are right in front of us with the overt actions and then we build from there," the attorney general said. "And that is a process that we will continue to build until we hold everyone accountable who committed criminal acts with respect to January 6."

Hundreds of Trump's supporters stormed the Capitol after the then-president at a nearby rally urged them to march to the federal legislative building and to "fight like hell." More than 780 of Trump's supporters have been indicted for their actions that day, with some saying in court that they believed they were carrying out Trump's orders.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-will-be-charged-kirschner-concludes-after-ag-garland-s-remarks/ar-AAUU2Im?ocid=msedgntp

It is not happening fast enough for many... I get that. But it is coming.

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woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
2. My concern is that it won't be done before elections.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:09 PM
Mar 2022

If we don’t keep the majority, it’s all screwed.

Ohio Joe

(21,748 posts)
5. Unlikely before the election...
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:23 PM
Mar 2022

But it is not all screwed if we do not win (which, I do not believe, I firmly believe we will still have the majority). The best repugs can do is stop the congressional Jan 6th investigation (whose preliminary report will already be out), they can't do anything about the DOJ investigation.

FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
3. Kirschner is getting info on the QT from DoJ, no doubt
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:10 PM
Mar 2022

He wouldn't stick his neck out and say this, if it's not happening. We just have to be patient.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
6. Is there a way to bet on this? Like in Vegas?
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:24 PM
Mar 2022

Because I would be a sizeable chunk of money that it ever happens.

Ohio Joe

(21,748 posts)
9. Yes, you can...
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:28 PM
Mar 2022

Donald Trump Indicted Before 2023?
No -400
Yes +250
Indictment Odds - First to be Indicted?
Rudy Giuliani -125
Roger Stone +125
Ivanka Trump +1200
Donald Trump Snr. +1400
Leon Black +1400
Jared Kushner +1600
Donald Trump Jnr +1800
Prince Andrew +2500
Alan Dershowitz +3300
Eric Trump +3300
Hunter Biden +3300
Glenn Dubin +5000
Leslie Wexner +5000
Bill Gates +10000
Larry Summers +10000
Bill Barr +12500
Elon Musk +12500
Hillary Clinton +12500
Kanye West +15000
Bill Clinton +20000
Jeff Bezos +25000
Joe Scarborough +25000
Robert Mueller +50000

https://sportsbetting.legal/politics/indictments/

For TFG they only have odds for him being indicted this year though, not at all. It will be interesting to see how it goes once they have odds for 2023.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
13. Sadly, I Looked At All The Sites At That Link, And None Are Taking Bets On Indictments
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 08:08 PM
Mar 2022

Probably because the odds are too lopsided against any indictments happening.

I was all set to place a bet. Easy money, IMO.

Ohio Joe

(21,748 posts)
14. It took me a bit to find...
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 08:32 PM
Mar 2022

They don't make those sites easy but the Betonline one is here:

https://www.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/politics-futures/donald-trump

You will have to create an account... Not sure how to do that but then you should be able to place the bet.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
8. Hopefully BEFORE mid terms, elections. We can't have GZP running house or senate and I pray
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:27 PM
Mar 2022

... his arrest helps dems politically

bucolic_frolic

(43,124 posts)
11. Even if it fails to convict, or is a minor point of law, putting TDFG through the process counts
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:30 PM
Mar 2022

Personally, I think dementia is accelerating. The magical leaps and emotional conclusions are palpable. Time is our friend, until the end.

bucolic_frolic

(43,124 posts)
19. His public proclamations and rants should prove epic. He could say anything.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 10:32 PM
Mar 2022

It could even be viewed as a vetting hurdle to run again, and one he is unlikely to pass. But then again the rules don't apply to him.

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
12. I hope so but it may be difficult to win.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:42 PM
Mar 2022

If the defense got even one MAGA fool on the jury Trump might go free.
In a criminal trial if even one juror disagrees, the verdict returned is Not Guilty.

Jury nullification occurs when a jury returns a Not Guilty verdict even though jurors believe beyond reasonable doubt that the defendant has broken the law. Because the Not Guilty verdict cannot be overturned, and because the jurors cannot be punished for their verdict, the law is said to be nullified in that particular case.

On the positive side, most MAGAs are not intelligent, strong willed people so the other jurors might be able to convince them to flip.




Trumpdumper

(171 posts)
18. Wrong ...
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 10:22 PM
Mar 2022
If the defense got even one MAGA fool on the jury Trump might go free.
In a criminal trial if even one juror disagrees, the verdict returned is Not Guilty.


Nope. If one (or up to 11) jurors vote NG, that's a mistrial. It is NOT a finding of not guilty, and the government can try the case again with a new jury.
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