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Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 10:44 PM Mar 2022

BBC Report from the front: If Kharkiv falls, all of Ukraine falls.


On the front line: If Kharkiv falls, all of Ukraine falls
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Lieutenant Yevgen Gromadsky
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Lieutenant Yevgen Gromadsky
In the early days of the invasion, Kharkiv in eastern Ukraine fought back a Russian armoured column. Since then, it has suffered nightly Russian airstrikes and shelling, with dozens of civilians killed and hundreds injured. The BBC's Quentin Sommerville and cameraman Darren Conway have spent the week with the Ukrainian forces as they fight to stop a further Russian advance.

This report contains material some viewers will find disturbing

The first casualty of war is time. Ask the young soldier at the front when the attack happened, or the old lady in the hospital bed when her home was shelled, and they look at you confused. Was it 24 hours ago, or 48? The days have become one, they tell you.

In Kharkiv, Ukraine's second-largest city, time is elastic. It's close to the border with Russia and the nightly shelling from Russian artillery and warplanes gives no rest. The past two weeks have seemed like an eternity, yet peace can be remembered as if it were yesterday.

In a frozen landscape on the city's north-eastern edge, 21-year-old Lieutenant Yevgen Gromadsky stands with hands outstretched. There are trenches dug in nearby. "Outgoing," he says, lifting his right hand to accompany the thump of fire from his positions. "Incoming," he says, and his left hand ticks up. With a crump, Russian shells are fired from their positions 900m away across snow-covered fields.

The shelling continues like clockwork at the edge of this bombed-out village - "Incoming, outgoing, incoming, outgoing," Lt Gromadsky flicks his hands with each report.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60693166
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BBC Report from the front: If Kharkiv falls, all of Ukraine falls. (Original Post) Tomconroy Mar 2022 OP
Is there a link to the story? I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #1
Just added link. Tomconroy Mar 2022 #2
Unnn, ... no, that's a stretch uponit7771 Mar 2022 #3
+1 2naSalit Mar 2022 #4
I'm not so sure it is. Haggis 4 Breakfast Mar 2022 #6
In WWII when com lines were fixed locations that meant a lot now command can be effective uponit7771 Mar 2022 #7
Sorry, yes I was. Haggis 4 Breakfast Mar 2022 #8
Just read that Russian forces are within NINE miles of Kiev. Haggis 4 Breakfast Mar 2022 #9
They've been that distance before... uponit7771 Mar 2022 #12
And your point would be WHAT ? Haggis 4 Breakfast Mar 2022 #14
It's a bravado quote from a defender of Kharkiv. The jackass headline writer used it as clickbait. enki23 Mar 2022 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Tomconroy Mar 2022 #10
That's what Enki23 said. maxsolomon Mar 2022 #11
The title at the linked site doesn't match the title of the OP Kaleva Mar 2022 #13

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,454 posts)
6. I'm not so sure it is.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 11:38 PM
Mar 2022

This city is being BLITZED every single night. Nothing is left standing. Bomb craters are everywhere. Nearly all of the buildings have been reduced to rubble. People have fled and the city is deserted.

If there's nothing left for the Ukrainians there, what does that bode for Kiev ?

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
7. In WWII when com lines were fixed locations that meant a lot now command can be effective
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 11:45 PM
Mar 2022

... ANYWHERE on the planet with encrypted satellite communications.

Are you talking about Kharkiv?

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,454 posts)
8. Sorry, yes I was.
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 11:53 PM
Mar 2022

The BBC reports were so grim. It's hard to see how this does not spread north to Kiev.

And now that putin is bringing in Syrians (to fight because his army doesn't want to kill Ukrainians), who have no loyalties to Ukrainians, this could go so rapidly downhill.

Response to enki23 (Reply #5)

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
11. That's what Enki23 said.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 12:52 AM
Mar 2022

it was a quote from a fighter that was used as the headline. The excerpted content didn't say that at all.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
13. The title at the linked site doesn't match the title of the OP
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 07:24 AM
Mar 2022

I know this isn't LBN but why is that?

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