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RandySF

(58,823 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2022, 11:59 PM Mar 2022

A bill in Missouri makes illegal to get an abortion if the patient has an ectopic pregnancy


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A bill in Missouri makes illegal to get an abortion if the patient has an ectopic pregnancy.

Facts about ectopic pregnancies:
- They’re are not viable. Full stop.
- They’re the 1 cause of death for 1st trimester patients.

Here’s the proposed law:
https://house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills221/hlrbillspdf/5798H.01I.pdf
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A bill in Missouri makes illegal to get an abortion if the patient has an ectopic pregnancy (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2022 OP
Government murder. nt DURHAM D Mar 2022 #1
Insanity. Diamond_Dog Mar 2022 #2
This is completely cruel insanity. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2022 #3
Septic shock, infection, and wnylib Mar 2022 #24
Thanks! I know. I used to be a nurse, a long time ago. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2022 #25
Oh, I guess you would know, then. wnylib Mar 2022 #27
It's like they don't realize that if the mother dies, so does the embryo. Arkansas Granny Mar 2022 #4
They don't care xmas74 Mar 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib Mar 2022 #26
wow Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #5
this will not pass stopdiggin Mar 2022 #6
They don't care about it going to the courts. xmas74 Mar 2022 #13
It's a point of pride with them... AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #23
Another thread on this... TreasonousBastard Mar 2022 #7
Is this from the same folks who think an ectopic pregnancy can be re-implanted? gratuitous Mar 2022 #8
This will kill women. There is no baby born from an ectopic pregnancy AllyCat Mar 2022 #9
They are doing this because Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #10
This bill shows you how ignorant their politicians are womanofthehills Mar 2022 #11
They don't care. xmas74 Mar 2022 #14
Ths reminds me of another example of antichoice politician stupidity. ShazzieB Mar 2022 #17
this stands zero chance in court. mopinko Mar 2022 #15
Agreed. ShazzieB Mar 2022 #18
The viciousness is astounding. I can't even call out ignorance, because they've been told. Hekate Mar 2022 #16
Classic fascist misogyny. wnylib Mar 2022 #28
Sounds like some Republican law makers want to extend the death penalty to women that get pregnant. cstanleytech Mar 2022 #19
Family Member Almost Died Sugarmaggie Mar 2022 #20
This exceeds insanity and is outright cruelty. littlemissmartypants Mar 2022 #21
Medical science means nothing to these bastards when it comes to women's health. AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #22

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,615 posts)
3. This is completely cruel insanity.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 12:14 AM
Mar 2022

Once the Fallopian tube bursts, the embryo is dead.

And, unless quick measures are taken, the woman will bleed to death.

Does the agency promulgating this proposed law also want the woman to die?

I am sickened.





wnylib

(21,458 posts)
24. Septic shock, infection, and
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 04:36 AM
Mar 2022

hemorrhage from an ectopic pregnancy can kill a woman.

A pregnancy outside of the uterus is already doomed to fail. Killing a woman along with the embryo is hardly pro life.

wnylib

(21,458 posts)
27. Oh, I guess you would know, then.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 05:10 AM
Mar 2022

My only experience of it was second hand.

Many decades ago, before cell phones, I took an emergency call from the neighbor of my boss. His wife's tube had just burst from an undiagnosed ectopic pregnancy and the neighbor and wife were waiting for an ambulance. I could hear the wife in the background, in obvious pain.

The boss was out of the office, but in town somewhere. We called every place that he might be and finally tracked him down. His wife survived, and we heard some of the details later, which involved infection, hemorrhage, blood transfusions, and antibiotics.





Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #4)

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
6. this will not pass
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 12:34 AM
Mar 2022

(my opinion)
Precisely for the reason that it absolutely invites, one could argue obligates, every court in the land (on up to the supremes) to overturn. And that is something that even the rockheads know is going to hurt them.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
13. They don't care about it going to the courts.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 01:09 AM
Mar 2022

It's all about sleight of hand. They propose (and sometimes even pass) these bills, knowing they will get all the attention. In the meantime they're sliding in something sneaky,like attempting to pass Right to Work, even though it's been voted down.

Eric Schmidt, our AG, never met a lawsuit he didn't like. It gets him in the news and when this is overturned the GOP supermajority in Jeff City will blame Biden and claim the feds are overstepping their bounds. They'll get an influx of donations for their various campaigns and leave the taxpayers with the multi million dollar bill for defending this crap.

I live in Missouri. This is what they do.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
23. It's a point of pride with them...
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 02:52 AM
Mar 2022

….that they waste taxpayer money defending bullshit like this.

Indiana AG Todd Rokita is just like Schmidt. Grandstanding POS trying to shore up his street cred with the Right before he runs for governor. He was involved in a lot of legislation this year that the AG’s office had no reason to be involved in, except for scoring political points with the base.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Is this from the same folks who think an ectopic pregnancy can be re-implanted?
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 12:47 AM
Mar 2022

Legislators should not practice medicine. Even if they're doctors, like Bill Frist (remember that waddling quack?).

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
9. This will kill women. There is no baby born from an ectopic pregnancy
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 12:49 AM
Mar 2022

The woman will bleed to death. These evil people are pro-death.

Mr.Bill

(24,289 posts)
10. They are doing this because
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 12:55 AM
Mar 2022

in the mid-terms every Democrat that voted against it can be called a baby killer. Expect more craziness like this.

womanofthehills

(8,706 posts)
11. This bill shows you how ignorant their politicians are
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 12:55 AM
Mar 2022

Conservative men who have no idea of how a women’s body works - do they really think A fetus can develop into a viable baby in a Fallopian tube?

ShazzieB

(16,396 posts)
17. Ths reminds me of another example of antichoice politician stupidity.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 01:43 AM
Mar 2022

Remember the bill Ohio was trying to pass a while back that included some crazy language saying that any physician who performs an abortion to preserve the life of a pregnant person must take all possible steps to preserve the life of the fetus, including, if applicable, “attempting to reimplant an ectopic pregnancy into the woman’s uterus.”

Never mind that such a thing is medically impossible. Politicians who pass bills like that one and this Missouri one don't concern themselves with such irrelevancies as actual facts

As bad as that Ohio bill was, this one is like its (even more) evil twin. Both of these bills are saying "To hell with women--the only thing that counts is the fetus, or the embryo, or the fertilized freaking egg.

P.S. According to the Ohio state legislature website, the above mentioned bill hasn't passed, but it's evidently not dead either: https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislation/legislation-summary?id=GA133-HB-413

ShazzieB

(16,396 posts)
18. Agreed.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 01:51 AM
Mar 2022

If they pass that piece of lunacy, the lawyers will have a field day dismantling it in court. A law that, in effect, imposes a death sentence on people with a specific medical condition, will get struck down so fast those legislators' heads will spin.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
16. The viciousness is astounding. I can't even call out ignorance, because they've been told.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 01:25 AM
Mar 2022

Vicious and woman-hating.


Sugarmaggie

(110 posts)
20. Family Member Almost Died
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 02:24 AM
Mar 2022

From this. Women can bleed to death. What else are they going to pull out of their backsides to harm women. Sick bastards.

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
21. This exceeds insanity and is outright cruelty.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 02:26 AM
Mar 2022

My college roommate almost bled to death with an ectopic pregnancy when her tube burst. I'm so glad I was there. She surely would be dead now if this draconian law existed then.

And the war on women and the people who love them, continues apace.

Thanks for sharing this, RandySF. ❤

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