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luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 09:24 AM Mar 2022

Putin says Russia to use Middle East volunteer fighters

Putin says Russia to use Middle East volunteer fighters
By Guy Faulconbridge
LONDON, March 11

Russian President Vladimir Putin gave the green light on Friday for up to 16,000 volunteers from the Middle East to be deployed alongside Russian-backed rebels to fight in Ukraine, doubling down an invasion that the West says has been losing momentum.

The move, just over two weeks since Putin ordered the invasion, allows Russia to deploy battle-hardened mercenaries from conflicts such as Syria without risking additional Russian military casualties. read more

At a meeting of Russia's Security Council, Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu said there were 16,000 volunteers in the Middle East who were ready to come to fight alongside Russian-backed forces in the breakaway Donbass region of eastern Ukraine.

"If you see that there are these people who want of their own accord, not for money, to come to help the people living in Donbass, then we need to give them what they want and help them get to the conflict zone," Putin said from the Kremlin.

More at

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-says-volunteers-welcome-help-fight-against-ukrainian-forces-2022-03-11/

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Putin says Russia to use Middle East volunteer fighters (Original Post) luv2fly Mar 2022 OP
I dunno. No $, no show IMO. no_hypocrisy Mar 2022 #1
Yeah, I'm not buying it PatSeg Mar 2022 #21
The Russians are only using 5% of their military. I don't understand this. So above my head mucifer Mar 2022 #2
Easier for Putin to shrug off edhopper Mar 2022 #3
Russia has an active military force of 900,000 VMA131Marine Mar 2022 #10
i think russia is using alot of their capability - probably half in the Ukraine samsingh Mar 2022 #16
Why kill your own people when you can get others to fight for you and die instead... mitch96 Mar 2022 #20
That "5%" were that are dead were trigger pullers and front line and has killed the efficacy of ... uponit7771 Mar 2022 #30
Expect some edhopper Mar 2022 #4
That's if they don't get wiped out first. GoCubsGo Mar 2022 #7
And I'm sure they aren't going to like PatSeg Mar 2022 #22
Yeah, there's that, too. GoCubsGo Mar 2022 #28
Yes and we can't trust a word he says PatSeg Mar 2022 #29
It's Spring edhopper Mar 2022 #31
It is snowing in parts of Ukraine PatSeg Mar 2022 #33
It's gets into edhopper Mar 2022 #35
WOW . .. Lovie777 Mar 2022 #5
Huh? I would guess they would feel vindicated. How do you think they will feel? Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #6
I thought the right wing cozied to Putin because he was on our side in the "war on terror" Walleye Mar 2022 #8
Yes, of course, but the poster was asking how the "middle east haters" feel. Two different Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #11
Biden should send in Oathkeepers, Proud Boys, III%ers, the Klan, NRA members, all the rightwing sop Mar 2022 #9
Would you wish that on the Ukrainians? Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #12
You're right. sop Mar 2022 #25
They would fight on the wrong side jcgoldie Mar 2022 #13
ummm.... vindicated that Middle Easterns hate democracy obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #18
Mercenaries who work for free. Turbineguy Mar 2022 #14
Just a reminder BGBD Mar 2022 #15
This after the Ukrainian President said Thrill Mar 2022 #17
My take, too obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #19
Yes, that makes sense PatSeg Mar 2022 #23
I hope they pack sandwiches, because Putin isn't known for feeding his troops Johonny Mar 2022 #24
THis is why he was making those comments about Islam or Muhammed should not be criticized JI7 Mar 2022 #26
I am sure people used to desert heat will thrive in sub-zero conditions RAB910 Mar 2022 #27
It's Spring edhopper Mar 2022 #32
I have been hearing reports about sub-zero temperatures RAB910 Mar 2022 #34
There are sub zero temps in edhopper Mar 2022 #36

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
3. Easier for Putin to shrug off
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 09:29 AM
Mar 2022

dead mercenaries than dead Russian soldiers.

Also easier to dismiss atrocities as done by those "Muslim fighters"

VMA131Marine

(4,138 posts)
10. Russia has an active military force of 900,000
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 09:51 AM
Mar 2022

That includes the Air Force and Navy. Yes, there are 2-3 million reserves but those are mainly people who served out their one year conscription and would need extensive retraining. When you factor in an army needs 3-4 people to support one soldier in the field it becomes clear that the majority of Russia’s combat forces have already been deployed in Ukraine.
Putin is leaving Russia’s defenses dangerously thin in other regions.

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
16. i think russia is using alot of their capability - probably half in the Ukraine
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 09:58 AM
Mar 2022

going to these volunteers (so called) is an act of desparation.

mitch96

(13,891 posts)
20. Why kill your own people when you can get others to fight for you and die instead...
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 10:14 AM
Mar 2022

Syrian payback I guess...
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uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
30. That "5%" were that are dead were trigger pullers and front line and has killed the efficacy of ...
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 11:30 AM
Mar 2022

... banded infantry units.

He now has to go to foreign reserves who'll be thrown into this meat grinder cause they're out.

Not everyone involved in military invasions are the infantry who kill other humans, cooks, clerks etc don't make good infantry

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
7. That's if they don't get wiped out first.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 09:43 AM
Mar 2022

Putin hired them based on their abilities to fight in the streets of their own cities. They don't know the Ukraine or its cities, like they do their own. Their Ukrainian counterparts, who are at last as tough, do. They're at a massive disadvantage, even more so, since being Middle Eastern, they'll stick out like sore thumbs in lily-white Ukraine. I don't think these guys know what they're getting themselves into.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
22. And I'm sure they aren't going to like
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 10:20 AM
Mar 2022

fighting in Europe during the winter. The whole story sounds rather fishy.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
33. It is snowing in parts of Ukraine
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 12:09 PM
Mar 2022

What is mild weather to some people is very cold to others. It is also a different kind of warfare.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
11. Yes, of course, but the poster was asking how the "middle east haters" feel. Two different
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 09:52 AM
Mar 2022

things.

Perhaps you are right and they are correlating the two.

sop

(10,156 posts)
9. Biden should send in Oathkeepers, Proud Boys, III%ers, the Klan, NRA members, all the rightwing
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 09:46 AM
Mar 2022

militias and everyone who took part in the 1/6 coup. Tell them "we need to fight them over there" before they breach Trump's wall or come across the border in a caravan.

sop

(10,156 posts)
25. You're right.
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 10:27 AM
Mar 2022

The Meal Team Six brigade would devour everything in sight. Ukrainian kids would go hungry.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
18. ummm.... vindicated that Middle Easterns hate democracy
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 10:06 AM
Mar 2022

IF ALERTED ON I AM NOT SAYING I AGREE, but am answering the poster that those folks who feel vindicated.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
15. Just a reminder
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 09:55 AM
Mar 2022

That these guys suck. Couldn't beat a bunch of underarmed rebels despite having Russian Air support and fighting in a largely friendly country to them.

Ukraine is a different animal with much better equipment.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
17. This after the Ukrainian President said
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 10:04 AM
Mar 2022

Putin is using Syrian fighters? Tells you they’re already there and Ukraine has either killed or captured some. So Putin had no choice but to confirm this

JI7

(89,247 posts)
26. THis is why he was making those comments about Islam or Muhammed should not be criticized
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 10:27 AM
Mar 2022

and attacking the EU and others for allowing criticism of Islam (they allow criticism of all religions) .

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
36. There are sub zero temps in
Fri Mar 11, 2022, 01:16 PM
Mar 2022

Iran. My concern is the atrocities these fighters will inflict, not their winning battles.

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