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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNever forget..Never let anyone else forget.. who embraced a dictator that is slaughtering
innocents in the Ukraine.. Take it to the grave with you.. People who would want to overthrow our Democracy and embrace a murderous dictator can NEVER be trusted.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)Peacetrain
(22,875 posts)RKP5637
(67,107 posts)Wednesdays
(17,359 posts)we don't have to reach them. We just need to reach the 2/3 of the electorate who are still in touch with reality.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)Nor do I mind doing what I can to make sure others dont forget this either.
Magoo48
(4,707 posts)sop
(10,167 posts)This relieves them of any responsibility for having praised him in the past.
Peacetrain
(22,875 posts)as if they are puffed up warriors... I will always remember the words they said
Walleye
(31,017 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Complaint about Biden. Lindsey spent his time in Sevice state side writing wills for those going over seas and Romney spent t8me overseas in a Religous group, promting his Church. Now they are ranting.
Biden said, We are not going to war with Russia.. Where are the Europeans?
Eyeball_Kid
(7,431 posts)He didn't lose his mind by killing off his political opponents?
He didn't lose his mind when he poisoned, imprisoned, or killed those with whom he disagrees?
He didn't lose his mind when he joined with the butcher Assad in Syria?
No, Putin didn't lose his mind over Ukraine. Putin lost his mind well before then, when he resigned himself to spreading evil throughout his sphere of influence, and then beyond. But it is all within the context of history: Russian leaders seem to aspire toward gaining and maintaining power through violence and murder. Putin is no different. The next Russian leader will likely do the same, but what's certain is that Putin's not producing for his oligarchs and certainly not for the Russian commoner, no matter the strength of his propaganda machine (i.e., his closed system of lies.). So... he will be removed as the Russian nation goes broke. Russians can't drink oil and gas, and the oligarchs can't siphon billions off the top of Russia's treasury if there are no longer billions to siphon.
Russia's elite are now coming to the assessment that rebuilding Russia's economy (so that they can steal more money) isn't in the cards for years and possibly decades. And keeping Putin in power will only make it worse. And Russia has no mechanism for a peaceful transfer of power. So you know what THAT means.
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)czarjak
(11,269 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,817 posts)about someone else they worship..........
The Mouth
(3,149 posts)The taking of Crimea and the weaving of a web of energy dependence on Europe were effective tactical moves. I don't know about 'crazy' but a combination of being a bubble of sycophants and the ravages of age could explain a lot. The Putin of 2000 would probably have not done this, or have done it more effectively.
At one point I would have said that I "respected" him in the same way I respect a shark or mafioso; do not fuck with at your peril, but he's 69 and, while there are many sharp people that age, there are many who are suffering cognitive decline at that age, too.
IA8IT
(5,554 posts)mjvpi
(1,388 posts)They lied us into a war that killed a minimum of 200,000 people. Our free press carried it live on TV. I have seen more of the reality of what bombs do, in the last two weeks, than I remember seeing on the major networks during the first two weeks of "Shock and Awe". Its not only dictatorships that can pull off this shit.
PurgedVoter
(2,217 posts)Waterboarding, was what definitive as torture, was all part of the terrorism that they believe in. Lynching is terrorism. Crosses burning on lawns is terrorism.
They scream about cancel culture when we decide they are too odious to talk to, listen to or put up with yet their culture has been cancel culture since it's inception.
They are still burning books and they are proud of it as they banish anti fascist literature. When they feel like it, they put on their vests, carry their guns around and cancel peoples lives. The worst offenders become heroes and are invited to their rallies.
When they went for the Southern Strategy, it was a move to collect the most violent and hateful and encourage them to support their causes.
The Mouth
(3,149 posts)and 'national interest' when they do it (the Repubs and DINOs).
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)wnylib
(21,433 posts)term for 20th century blitzkrieg.
Same kind of minds behind both.
Botany
(70,501 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:12 AM - Edit history (2)
A New Report Adds Evidence That Trump Was a Russian Asset
He helped Putin manipulate the U.S. election in 2020, as he did in 2016.
Donald Trump was a tool in a long-running Russian campaign to weaken the United States. Thats been documented in Republican-led investigative reports, and now it has been updated with new evidence, thanks to the U.S. Intelligence Communitys assessment of the 2020 election. The report, drafted by the CIA, the FBI, and several other agencies, was released in unclassified form on Tuesday, but it was presented in classified form on Jan. 7. In other words, it was compiled, written, and edited during Trumps administration. It destroys his lies about the election, and it exposes him as a Russian asset.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html
PatrickforB
(14,570 posts)It is almost as if Putin has Trump on an invisible leash. Both of them clearly know it, too.
Botany
(70,501 posts)As to Russia, the report leaves no doubt: In 2020, as in 2016, President Putin authorized, and a range of Russian government organizations conducted, influence operations to help Trump and hurt his Democratic opponent. For example, Shortly after the 2018 midterm elections, Russian intelligence cyber actors attempted to hack organizations primarily affiliated with the Democratic Party. Then, in late 2019, Russias military intelligence service, the GRU, conducted a phishing campaign against subsidiaries of Burisma holdings, likely in an attempt to gather information related to President Bidens family. Throughout the 2020 election, agents connected to the Russian Federal Security Service, FSB, planted negative stories about Biden. Internet operatives working for the Kremlin, including the troll farm that had boosted Trump in 2016, continued to promote Trump and his commentary, including repeating his political messaging.
Attacks on Biden and his son, Hunter, were part of this operation. Through US officials and prominent US individuals, some of whom were close to former President Trump and his administration, the report says Russias intelligence services repeatedly spread unsubstantiated or misleading claims about President Biden and his familys alleged wrongdoing related to Ukraine. In this way, Trumps circle laundered the Russian-planted stories, which were then recirculatedand promoted by Russias online proxiesas American news.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Yesterday say Putin Did not attack while Trump was in office because he was getting everything he wanted Makesp you wonder how much Intel he gave him leading up to this war.
DENVERPOPS
(8,817 posts)that it is customary for the new president to continue sharing intel with the former president after inauguration. But the article said that Biden, during his first day in office, stopped the sharing of ALL information and intel with Trump........First time ever.......
Trump's spawn and Jared had been collecting the intel for four years and either giving it to Putin or selling it on the open market.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Why allow a traitor to keep getting info he was probably selling?
That is why Trump stole all that classified info? Tried to steal from the Embassy when he sou
Led have been in Normandy? Sticky. Fingers.
Al Franken said Lindsey Grahamwas a shoplifter. Had seen him do it.
DENVERPOPS
(8,817 posts)before Lindsay helped Trump "shoplift" our democracy and Government for Putin........
I have known two very wealthy women that enjoyed shoplifting almost like a hobby........I wonder what a psychiatrist would say about that?? They must have some psychological defect to make them do that!!!!!!!!!
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Small town, her husband would either return the stuff or pay for it. She was never charged.
DENVERPOPS
(8,817 posts)Putin, in the picture, looks to be taller than lardass, when in reality he is like 5'7".......Trump would never allow that picture to reach the media showing the other person taller than him.......of course, unless that person was his mentor
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)RussBLib
(9,006 posts)Putin, upright, smiling and strutting. T**** downcast and slumping, exhibiting his subservience.
dchill
(38,474 posts)Botany
(70,501 posts)In the late winter / early spring of 2020 U.S. intelligence caught Russian agents and intercepted
electronic "stuff" that showed Russia was working to make Bernie Sanders the nominee of the
Democratic Party over Joe Biden and passed that information onto the proper Congressional
committees. And what did TFG do? He fired the U.S. intelligence agents who in doing their jobs
and caught the Russian attack on America's elections.
We need to see the unredacted Mueller Report and hear and or see the complete transcript of
TFG's call to Zeleneskyy where Trump tried to black mail Zelenskyy into making up dirt on Joe
and Hunter Biden.
XacerbatedDem
(511 posts)Especially liked the part:
"The report doesnt name the Americans who collaborated with the Russian agents, but its easy to identify them from news reports. Trumps lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, met with Derkach twice. Donald Trump Jr. promoted Derkachs tapes. Trumps 2016 campaign manager, Paul Manafort, gave Kilimnik inside information on the campaign. Trump, in a 2019 phone call, pressed Ukraines president to open an investigation of Biden, as Derkach proposed. And congressional Republicans, led by Reps. Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes, parroted a Russian-planted narrative to falsely blame Ukraine for interfering in the 2016 US presidential election.
electric_blue68
(14,888 posts)Beachnutt
(7,320 posts)saying about the slaughter of families by trumps best friend ?
John Hagee to name one.
lastlib
(23,222 posts)It's a step toward the Armageddon. after which all his little minions get called into the clouds, and joy abides forever. They're orgasmically happy about it.
DENVERPOPS
(8,817 posts)The Lord Works In Mysterious Ways...............
I know many GOOD, and truly Christian/religious People...... funny thing is, they are all democrats........weird huh!
PatrickforB
(14,570 posts)traitors who stormed the Capitol Jan 6, and others in his so-called 'administration' who supported his corruption and treason.
It is taking time, some feel too much, to bring these people to justice, but it is happening.
My fondest wish is to see Trump convicted and sent to federal prison for his crimes.
Kid Berwyn
(14,897 posts)Stuart G
(38,420 posts)niyad
(113,278 posts)Racygrandma
(109 posts)That astounds me, all those men in the Republican party and no balls! Under normal circumstances I think we should not use profane language, but it is simply the truth and it fits .
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,112 posts)They really want to bring them back out of mothballs.
What would Reagan say?
peppertree
(21,625 posts)Some of them, anyway.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Yesterday, out of morbid curiosity, I watched its coverage for about five seconds.
The first time the studio talent and an expert were pessimistic and disparaging of Ukraines chances.
The second time was that disgusting Jesse Watters creature, who was getting on Biden about not owning an electric car. Watters brought up (and mocked) the fact that Biden has the presidential limo (the Beast) the same limo that Trump had, and played a clip from 2016 when Biden was on Jay Lenos Garage with his Corvette, which he also doesnt drive around much anymore (if I understood Jen Pataki). The point? Other than a sad attempt to bash Joe? Beats me.
Finally, I found the intestinal fortitude to watch Tucker, after listening to Nicolle Wallaces conversation with Jonathan Karl. Tucker was spreading the U.S.-Ukraine chemical weapons lab BS pretty thick, playing some clip of an NSA spokesperson confirming it.
These are seditionist, treasonous Fifth Columnists who are also destroying the country, if not the world. It is truly frightening how many people here in the U.S. are being deceived by this. Straight out if Putins disinformation playbook.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)If not for the optics, the GOP would gleefully campaign on its passionate and faithful support of Putin and his invasion of Ukraine. They are desperate to worship a man who presents himself as strong and forceful, and as long as he flatters their ignorance, their cruelty, their bigotry, and their fantasies of victimhood, they will continue to worship him until the very last of them is dead.
DENVERPOPS
(8,817 posts)if you take the lowest white man and tell him he is above the best black man he will open his wallet to you......or something like that
And all the while those fools are praising themselves for their rugged individualism and their fiercely self-sufficient independence.
Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)Mark my words, the law is coming for him. And Alvin Bragg, we're gonna have a few questions for you, too.
Cha
(297,179 posts)Peacetrain
(22,875 posts)Larissa
(790 posts)The bombing of a maternity hospital with women near birth having to evacuate, bloodied with the debris of Putin terror. The deliberate killing of defenseless citizens of Ukraine. Yet still, of course, the soulless creep who was the last potus still supports Vlad.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Who murdered over 1 mil of their own citizens by covid.
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)That the Justice Department catches up to him! TRUMP FOR LIFE -PRISON LIFE!
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