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Picture of Ukrainian Girl with rifle and lollypop goes viral (Original Post) Demovictory9 Mar 2022 OP
Its not a rifle. James48 Mar 2022 #1
Yup. denbot Mar 2022 #2
And I betcha she has a ready supply of shot, powder, and primers... Brother Buzz Mar 2022 #4
Looks like a rack of shells on the stock, too... Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #5
Ya and I bet that ain't no birdshot lol...that looks like some John Wick shit! Volaris Mar 2022 #16
This is its believable and couldn't put it past UKR citz, they're tough folk. We need them IN the .. uponit7771 Mar 2022 #3
Like the rest of you, I am horrified this little girl has been put in this situation PatrickforB Mar 2022 #6
Sadly, madamesilverspurs Mar 2022 #7
Not a rifle . . . AverageOldGuy Mar 2022 #8
What would be the kick back on that thing? speak easy Mar 2022 #13
Twelve gauge kicks pretty hard as it is. blugbox Mar 2022 #14
About 10 days ago Joy Reid told Malcolm Nance BigmanPigman Mar 2022 #9
In Demovictory's defense, I don't know anything about guns, and would call a shot gun a rifle. C Moon Mar 2022 #10
I had to stop watching a border cam Warpy Mar 2022 #11
Don't underestimate nor romanticize tween girls. - speak easy Mar 2022 #12
This breaks my heart. smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #15
Putin is toast alphafemale Mar 2022 #17
Shotguns don't defeat body armor, unfortunately NickB79 Mar 2022 #18
But the impact could fuck the person up and take them out... Kaleva Mar 2022 #22
When asked what she needed she said; "Guns, lots of guns." Hotler Mar 2022 #19
The first time I saw it I didn't notice the ribbons in her hair mucifer Mar 2022 #20
I guarantee if that little girl shot that 12 gauge her shoulder will be bruised. I Emile Mar 2022 #21
I'm thinking the pic is posed in some repects Kaleva Mar 2022 #23
I agree sammythecat Mar 2022 #24
It is. It's "soft propaganda." WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #25
Thanks! Kaleva Mar 2022 #26
Hard to say, my niece is about that age and busts clays with ease Amishman Mar 2022 #27

James48

(4,436 posts)
1. Its not a rifle.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:28 AM
Mar 2022

It appears to be a shotgun, i’d say, based on the diameter of the barrel.


Very powerful photo.

Brother Buzz

(36,431 posts)
4. And I betcha she has a ready supply of shot, powder, and primers...
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:55 AM
Mar 2022

and her reloader doesn't shout bling, but it totally gets the job done.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
3. This is its believable and couldn't put it past UKR citz, they're tough folk. We need them IN the ..
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:35 AM
Mar 2022

... tent not outside of it.

PatrickforB

(14,574 posts)
6. Like the rest of you, I am horrified this little girl has been put in this situation
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:28 AM
Mar 2022

by Putin's disgusting invasion. I hope she lives.

Too many kids have carried guns, and she should be worrying about homework, not getting killed.

AverageOldGuy

(1,525 posts)
8. Not a rifle . . .
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:33 AM
Mar 2022

. . . pump shotgun, 12 gauge with modified chamber to hold 7-8 rounds. Looks as though she has an ammo holder on the stock so she doesn't have to fish shells out of her pockets to reload. Her dirty hands and the bullet holes in the side of the building suggest she's been in a fight.

blugbox

(951 posts)
14. Twelve gauge kicks pretty hard as it is.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 07:16 AM
Mar 2022

I'm an adult male, and a few hours of shotgun use has always left me with a bruised shoulder. Yes I hold it correctly, they just kick hard. If one were to exercise very poor shooting form, the kick back could be enough to dislocate a shoulder or fracture a collar bone...

Shotguns like the one pictured are made of polymer and are quite light compared to a heavy wooden WWII rifle for example, so more feel of the kick is transferred through the stock and into your shoulder. Large caliber rifles kick hard as well, but it seems the heavy stocks absorb more of the force.

Final piece to the puzzle: ammo type. Bird shot is very small and a much lighter load overall than buckshot. Buckshot kicks very very hard. Slugs I think kick the hardest. The heavier the round fired, the more kick on the users end.

I'm not a gun nut so I'm not sure why I decided to answer in such detail. I'm stressed for them and I feel so sorry for this little girl that the "science" part of the answer appealed to me and momentarily distracted me from the reality of the situation.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
9. About 10 days ago Joy Reid told Malcolm Nance
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:05 AM
Mar 2022

that she saw two or three little kids walk down a street in Ukraine while their city was being bombed. Malcolm told her. "In 2 months you're going to see those same little kids lying down IED (whatever it's called) wire in their town". He was spot on.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
10. In Demovictory's defense, I don't know anything about guns, and would call a shot gun a rifle.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:29 AM
Mar 2022

I know better now.

Warpy

(111,259 posts)
11. I had to stop watching a border cam
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 03:02 AM
Mar 2022

Cars would go through, few minutes later, a man would walk back. Then one car wen through and a man and 2 teenagers walked back.

It broke me.

Putin and his shithead buddies in the Kremlin make me wish I believed in a hell.

speak easy

(9,249 posts)
12. Don't underestimate nor romanticize tween girls. -
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 03:04 AM
Mar 2022

They can be very competitive and determined, in (very) close knit circles.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
17. Putin is toast
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:11 AM
Mar 2022

With however that young woman prefers her eggs.

The yellow/blue hair ribbons are an even better touch than the lolly.

Hotler

(11,421 posts)
19. When asked what she needed she said; "Guns, lots of guns."
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:32 AM
Mar 2022

Ready to go all John Wick on Russian invaders.

Emile

(22,741 posts)
21. I guarantee if that little girl shot that 12 gauge her shoulder will be bruised. I
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:21 PM
Mar 2022

shot my Grandpa's 10 gauge about her age and it knocked me down on my ass!

Kaleva

(36,299 posts)
23. I'm thinking the pic is posed in some repects
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:39 PM
Mar 2022

Even a grown man can short stroke a pump shotgun . Working that slide with authority in combat conditions may be too much to expect from the girl and there's also the recoil and noise to consider.

Trying to visualize the girl standing up, holding that full size shotgun and being able rack the slide back like she means it and moving the slide all the way fwd after firing the first shot in a very stressful situation. I don't see that working out well.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,345 posts)
25. It is. It's "soft propaganda."
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:04 PM
Mar 2022
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/photo-of-ukrainian-girl-with-a-lollipop-and-a-rifle-goes-viral/ar-AAUXveL

Where did the photo of the Ukrainian girl with a lollipop and rifle come from?

The photo was taken by Alexei Kirichenko in Kiev, and is of his nine-year old daughter. He posted it to his Facebook account on Friday, with the simple message: “Young girl with candy”.

In the comments he is asked if it is his daughter, and he replies that it is. He is asked if the photo was staged to “to highlight the horrors of Putin invading a nation and putting civilians, including children, in danger.” He explains that the photo is staged, and that he gave his daughter the gun, unloaded, for the photo.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
27. Hard to say, my niece is about that age and busts clays with ease
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:39 PM
Mar 2022

When shooting clays at my brother-in-law's, she'll use a rubber slip on pad on the butt stock to soften the recoil a bit and shoot all afternoon.

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