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superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:19 AM Mar 2022

Daylight Savings Time Impacts Health Scientists Say

Early Sunday morning, at 2 a.m. to be precise, clocks will spring forward an hour to mark the start of Daylight saving time along with the debate over whether it is wise to continue changing the clocks twice a year.

University of California San Francisco sleep expert Dr. Kin Yuen, among a group of scientists who think it’s time to get rid of daylight savings. warns losing an hour of sleep could impact your health.


https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2022/03/11/daylight-saving-time-spring-forward-fall-back-change-clocks-sleep-science/
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Daylight Savings Time Impacts Health Scientists Say (Original Post) superpatriotman Mar 2022 OP
I am not exaggerating Dr. Shepper Mar 2022 #1
It is one of my easiest obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #3
Me, too Cosmocat Mar 2022 #29
Me too. XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #36
So Delphinus Mar 2022 #15
Agreed Mad_Machine76 Mar 2022 #19
Agreed Beaverhausen Mar 2022 #46
Yup! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #2
I look forward to it! samplegirl Mar 2022 #12
I think they should just pick one & stop messing with it. SheltieLover Mar 2022 #13
Yes I'm all for leaving samplegirl Mar 2022 #20
Same Cosmocat Mar 2022 #30
I'm not surprised MissMillie Mar 2022 #4
Give me a break losing one f--'g hour of sleep once doc03 Mar 2022 #5
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Mar 2022 #16
Or, just have a kid. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2022 #23
I have a kid and it's not the lost sleep Dr. Shepper Mar 2022 #38
Exactly! Owl Mar 2022 #37
It's not the lost sleep Dr. Shepper Mar 2022 #40
This hasn't ever made sense to me either. At least once a week I have a night I can't get to sleep Quixote1818 Mar 2022 #47
There are more heart attacks, strokes, and fatal car accidents after DST Clash City Rocker Mar 2022 #6
Its a good idea over all Blues Heron Mar 2022 #10
Yes. ck4829 Mar 2022 #7
People will die needlessly in the coming week because of it. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #8
The ultimate first world problem Blues Heron Mar 2022 #9
Its not the lost sleep Dr. Shepper Mar 2022 #41
Have you tried to ease into it starting a week before Blues Heron Mar 2022 #42
I sleep like poop anyway Dr. Shepper Mar 2022 #45
sounds like you have more going on than just DST - good luck Blues Heron Mar 2022 #48
Hell! After coming back from Australia in 2018.... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2022 #11
You dont automatically lose an hour of sleep Blues Heron Mar 2022 #14
*Groan* I hate the spring onset (the return in the fall is easier) Liberal In Texas Mar 2022 #17
I have to reset exactly two clocks in my home jimfields33 Mar 2022 #18
I detest the time change! slightlv Mar 2022 #21
One hour less sleep for one night and your life falls apart? What the hell? Who are these people? betsuni Mar 2022 #22
It's a neurological function of the pineal gland Sympthsical Mar 2022 #32
Thank you! Dr. Shepper Mar 2022 #43
Yeah, it bugged me Sympthsical Mar 2022 #49
I've heard there are more car accidents during the "spring ahead" week milestogo Mar 2022 #24
It's never really bothered me dumbcat Mar 2022 #25
I wish they'd just leave it on DST. FoxNewsSucks Mar 2022 #26
Then we need to get rid of the Super Bowl Phoenix61 Mar 2022 #27
Is there anyone who actually likes the time changes each year? Poiuyt Mar 2022 #28
It's natural to get up earlier as sunrise gets earlier muriel_volestrangler Mar 2022 #33
There are good reasons to attempt to sync the workday to the natural day Blues Heron Mar 2022 #35
STATES MUST PASS LAWS REQUIRING YOU TO GO TO BED AN HOUR EARLIER. Thunderbeast Mar 2022 #31
DST doesn't affect us since we are retired. marie999 Mar 2022 #34
I guess my changing schedules made me immune to 1hr clock changes. Lucid Dreamer Mar 2022 #39
It happens on Sunday morning. I stay in bed until I want to wake up. maxsolomon Mar 2022 #44
Why not adjust work schedules to fit the seasons? hunter Mar 2022 #50
Wow! After 7 and the sun is still up. Definitely worth one stinking hour of Sunday sleep! Lucid Dreamer Mar 2022 #51

Cosmocat

(14,562 posts)
29. Me, too
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:21 AM
Mar 2022

I SO friggen hate the dark at the end of the day. It messes up my sleep cycle because I get so tired and drained by it that I fall asleep too early, wake up a lot earlier with less sleep, not able to fall asleep, and just drag arse all day.

samplegirl

(11,475 posts)
12. I look forward to it!
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:57 AM
Mar 2022

After months and months of darkness is much harder than sleep disturbance.
So nice to look forward to longer daylight and not feeling like
it’s bedtime by 8:0O o’clock!

MissMillie

(38,548 posts)
4. I'm not surprised
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:26 AM
Mar 2022

any time my sleep pattern is disrupted, it takes me a while to get back on track. And during that "while" that it takes to get back on track, I feel awful.

doc03

(35,325 posts)
5. Give me a break losing one f--'g hour of sleep once
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:28 AM
Mar 2022

a year affects your health. Those egg heads should try and work shift work for 40 years.

Dr. Shepper

(3,014 posts)
38. I have a kid and it's not the lost sleep
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:55 PM
Mar 2022

I drag any time my schedule shifts. Maybe it’s because I don’t sleep well anyway (usually 5 hours if I’m lucky).

Plus trying to get the kid to sleep in the light is one aspect to the struggle.

Dr. Shepper

(3,014 posts)
40. It's not the lost sleep
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:56 PM
Mar 2022

I hardly sleep anyway. It’s the shift in schedule. It’s hard for me to keep up. And I’m not some egg head who can’t handle hard work.

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
47. This hasn't ever made sense to me either. At least once a week I have a night I can't get to sleep
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:13 PM
Mar 2022

until after midnight.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
10. Its a good idea over all
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:47 AM
Mar 2022

Try and match the work day to the natural day to avoid weirdness like hustling in deep winter to get going hours before dawn, or conversely having the sun come up at 4 AM in the summer.

Dr. Shepper

(3,014 posts)
41. Its not the lost sleep
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:57 PM
Mar 2022

It’s the shift in schedule that’s hard for me. And I’m not some weakling. I struggle with sleep anyway and my body takes time to adjust.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
42. Have you tried to ease into it starting a week before
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:05 PM
Mar 2022

Try going to sleep 10 minutes earlier each night, that might help it to be less of a shock when finally hits and the schedule shifts.

Dr. Shepper

(3,014 posts)
45. I sleep like poop anyway
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:09 PM
Mar 2022

I’ve been up hours before I needed to be all last week. It doesn’t usually help the shift in rhythm. But we’ll see. Trying to get the kid asleep earlier is a whole other level of struggle too.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
11. Hell! After coming back from Australia in 2018....
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:53 AM
Mar 2022

It took me 3 weeks to get back to normal. Consider a 17 hour time difference from Minnesota to Sydney, Australia. We left on November 22nd and returned to the United States on November 22nd.

By Christmas that year, I was back to feeling and functioning normal. Sleeping and eating patterns were askew.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
14. You dont automatically lose an hour of sleep
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 09:00 AM
Mar 2022

you can take steps to ease into DST, knowing its coming, get to bed a little earlier each day the previous week, then when the fateful day comes - BOOM! no problem, you are good to go, no heart attack, no stress, no muss, no fuss.

Failure to plan ahead and act on those plans can be hazardous to your health in so many arenas, this is no different. If you feel a clock change might give you a heart attack - do your homework, try and find out when this might be happening, and do something to mitigate it. Going to bed ten minutes earlier each day for the preceding 6 days might be just the ticket to ensure your survival.

Liberal In Texas

(13,543 posts)
17. *Groan* I hate the spring onset (the return in the fall is easier)
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 09:02 AM
Mar 2022

I feel like I have jet lag for a couple of weeks. The older I get the worse it seems to be.

I also hate having to change the 20 some clocks spread all over the place that don't have auto DST settings.


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jimfields33

(15,767 posts)
18. I have to reset exactly two clocks in my home
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 09:35 AM
Mar 2022

The microwave and stove. Everything else is automatic. I hope they finally auto change the stove and microwave someday.

slightlv

(2,786 posts)
21. I detest the time change!
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 09:52 AM
Mar 2022

My body has never been able to handle it. It was hard enough to get it to fit into the 8-5 world when my circadian rhythm does NOT match that cycle. I've tried every trick in the book to fix it AND try to get thru the jump ahead and never have had anything work. I'm just completely out of sorts for a couple of weeks. And it does seem to get worse, the older I get.

That said, I'd rather suffer thru one more "leap forward" IF they would leave it alone after that. I actually like the extra daylight into the evening hours. It's the effects on my mind, body, and emotions from changing 2x a year I hate. Time is a relative thing, anyway. It's just timey-wimey balls of stuff.

This year, providing my cat pulls thru at the vet and comes back home to me okay... or on the way to okay... on Sunday, I plan on simply sleeping until I wake up. If anyone wants me before then... tough shit. I've worked since I was 10 years old. I'm tired of having to fit myself into everybody else's schedule. Now that I'm retired, they can catch me when and if they can!

As a former hour-long commuter every day, I have great empathy for those still working and having to commute during this time change. I met a lot of crazies on the road, most of whom were trying desperately to stay awake while commuting.

betsuni

(25,456 posts)
22. One hour less sleep for one night and your life falls apart? What the hell? Who are these people?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 09:55 AM
Mar 2022

They can't go to beddy-boo one hour earlier? Nobody's had insomnia, ever? Stayed out late? Never happens, but Daylight Savings Time one hour once a year will OMG impact your health? Come on.

Sympthsical

(9,071 posts)
32. It's a neurological function of the pineal gland
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:43 AM
Mar 2022

We all keep internal clocks. I can glance outside, and my brain knows roughly what time it is within ten minutes based on the position of the sunlight, etc. It's something almost all of us do to varying degrees.

It isn't the losing of the hour of sleep that's the problem. It's the brain trying to synchronize when your subconscious functions and conscious functions end up out of step.

Even if you stay up late or wake up early, your brain more or less knows what time it is. It keeps track. When your conscious brain keeps telling your lower functions they're wrong, it takes up resources. They're constantly trying to reconcile environmental conditions. You can end up mentally drained more quickly and experience mental fatigue.

It's why jet lag exists.

Some people feel this a lot more than others. I don't really get jet lag, but I've seen it wreck other people for varying degrees of time. It's different for everyone.

But this isn't a "lost hour of sleep" thing. It's a neurological adjustment with a basis in biology that takes more time for some than others.

Dr. Shepper

(3,014 posts)
43. Thank you!
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:06 PM
Mar 2022

I came back to this thread and saw all the posts mocking people like me who struggle.

It’s not the lost sleep. I struggle with sleep anyway. It’s the shift in rhythm.

Sympthsical

(9,071 posts)
49. Yeah, it bugged me
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:37 PM
Mar 2022

Also, I just had an exam on the functions of the pineal gland, hypothalamus, and endocrine system, so I was all, "Oh oh! I know this!"

Gotta reinforce that learning for the final ^^

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
24. I've heard there are more car accidents during the "spring ahead" week
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:09 AM
Mar 2022

than any other week of the year.

People are tired, and they make mistakes in judgment.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
25. It's never really bothered me
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:33 AM
Mar 2022

one way or the other. I've survived 8 decades of it so far.

Changing my clocks is a little bit of a PITA. I have six clocks I need to re-set, but that really isn't a life altering task. It's a good opportunity to get them all synched and back on time.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
26. I wish they'd just leave it on DST.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:49 AM
Mar 2022

It's not a hassle to "spring forward", I just don't like it.

I did find out a few years ago that it's a lot easier to change clocks the day before. Which I did this morning.

Generally, for many reasons, I'd like to have the daylight at the end of the day.

Phoenix61

(17,000 posts)
27. Then we need to get rid of the Super Bowl
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:57 AM
Mar 2022

and maybe football entirely.
“History shows cardiac emergencies tend to surge after dramatic games, especially when your team loses.”
https://abc7.com/amp/super-bowl-heart-attacks-health-cardiologist/11550798/

Yeah, pretty ridiculous, right.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,300 posts)
33. It's natural to get up earlier as sunrise gets earlier
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:11 PM
Mar 2022

but a modern timetable-driven lifestyle has ended up doing it as changing the timetable in a single jump of an hour. So, yes, lots of people like that their work, study or other timed activities are earlier in the summer.

I always varied the times I get up at weekends by an hour or more, so it doesn't seem a big deal to me. Those who work to a timetable on Sunday morning have more of a reason to dislike it.

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
35. There are good reasons to attempt to sync the workday to the natural day
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:16 PM
Mar 2022

Why would you want to get up hours before the sun in december? No one wants that, so staying on dst doesn’t make sense in northern climes.

Likewise, we set the clocks forward in summer to take advantage of the morning light, thus getting a jump on the day and allowing more free daylight time after work in the evening.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
31. STATES MUST PASS LAWS REQUIRING YOU TO GO TO BED AN HOUR EARLIER.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:31 AM
Mar 2022

on the night prior to the time change.

All television programming including streaming services must stop at 9:00! Only thing on TV would be sheep jumping over a log.

Violators who stay awake should be subject to civil suits enforced by their neighbors with an automatic $10,000 fine.

Problem solved....and I get to go on long walks after dinner.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
34. DST doesn't affect us since we are retired.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:16 PM
Mar 2022

We go to bed when we are tired and wake up when our bodies tell us to. Our yard birds don't know what DST is so we fed them this morning at 7 AM, and will feed them tomorrow at 8 AM.

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
39. I guess my changing schedules made me immune to 1hr clock changes.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:56 PM
Mar 2022

I worked in Air Traffic Control facilities on multiple different types of schedules some 8hr days, some 10hr.

A typical 8hr week would be
OFF
OFF
4pm
noon
8am
6am
midnight

Now that I'm retired I sleep from 230am to 830am. Set my alarm for 9am but usually wake up on my own.
If I have an occasional 8am class to teach I go to bed at 11pm and set alarm for 530.

One stinking hour change a year doesn't mean much to me.

-- All attempts to regain my sanity have failed.

maxsolomon

(33,297 posts)
44. It happens on Sunday morning. I stay in bed until I want to wake up.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:09 PM
Mar 2022

It's not my fault you all want to make 8 am Mass.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
50. Why not adjust work schedules to fit the seasons?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 02:55 PM
Mar 2022

Farmers, fishers, and many sorts of construction workers do it.

Everything doesn't have to be done in lockstep with "9 to 5" office hours.

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
51. Wow! After 7 and the sun is still up. Definitely worth one stinking hour of Sunday sleep!
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 07:08 PM
Mar 2022

...and the rumor is it will happen again tomorrow!

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