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Botany

(70,501 posts)
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:12 AM Mar 2022

Never forget .... Slate Magazine, "it exposes him (Trump) as a Russian asset."



A New Report Adds Evidence That Trump Was a Russian Asset
He helped Putin manipulate the U.S. election in 2020, as he did in 2016.

Donald Trump was a tool in a long-running Russian campaign to weaken the United States. That’s been documented in Republican-led investigative reports, and now it has been updated with new evidence, thanks to the U.S. Intelligence Community’s assessment of the 2020 election. The report, drafted by the CIA, the FBI, and several other agencies, was released in unclassified form on Tuesday, but it was presented in classified form on Jan. 7. In other words, it was compiled, written, and edited during Trump’s administration. It destroys his lies about the election, and it exposes him as a Russian asset.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html

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Never forget .... Slate Magazine, "it exposes him (Trump) as a Russian asset." (Original Post) Botany Mar 2022 OP
"That makes Trump more than a Russian asset. It makes him...an agent of a foreign power." sop Mar 2022 #1
Everytime TFG said "fake news" as per connections between Trump/Trump Campaign and Russia .... Botany Mar 2022 #2
Not all of the classified documents have been recovered. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #10
+1 -K&R onetexan Mar 2022 #61
And what was said in his private meetings with Putin? PatSeg Mar 2022 #42
Where is the translator now? Botany Mar 2022 #45
Oh yes, that too PatSeg Mar 2022 #50
how many here think Trump was smart enough to agingdem Mar 2022 #41
Trumpy-Boy wanted admission to an exclusive club of super-wealthy billionaires. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2022 #44
always the useful idiot... agingdem Mar 2022 #49
Once he was trapped in the office of POTUS, SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #52
He officially began his reelection campaign the day after his inauguration, yonder Mar 2022 #56
That, and started grifting... robbob Mar 2022 #57
Quelle cilla4progress Mar 2022 #3
Odd how little coverage the report received. Kid Berwyn Mar 2022 #4
And so much out of Trump and or Fox News' mouth are straight from Russia and Russian pys oops. Botany Mar 2022 #8
Not odd at all considering all the stuff that was coming out in March of '21 Native Mar 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #11
Oh, there's a guy in my neighborhood who not fooled Mar 2022 #54
Kicking for visibility SheltieLover Mar 2022 #5
That is a great picture. - n/t Jim__ Mar 2022 #6
I guess Trump sitting at his big desk with others standing behind him makes him feel powerful Poiuyt Mar 2022 #14
Maybe piling a few cans of Goya beans on the Resolute desk in front of him.... maddiemom Mar 2022 #34
I like the fotoshopped version, with a Trump on Putin's dog leash. NCjack Mar 2022 #43
This article is a year old! we can do it Mar 2022 #7
And still worth reading now in light of the Russia & Ukraine news Botany Mar 2022 #23
I agree, just noticed when I finished reading. we can do it Mar 2022 #26
Why when the Republican controlled Senate Intel Committee finishedits report on Russian and Trump .. Botany Mar 2022 #30
"never forget" kcr Mar 2022 #33
A vote for Trump was a vote for Putin.. mountain grammy Mar 2022 #12
Mueller report made that clear...is this Mueller Report Unredacted, with a different book cover? Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2022 #20
I'd like to know what it would take slightlv Mar 2022 #13
The Great Wholesale G.O.P. betrayal of America Achilleaze Mar 2022 #15
I'll never forget. 2naSalit Mar 2022 #16
F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR** works for putin and russia, has for decdes. That niyad Mar 2022 #17
long tie, short leash alterfurz Mar 2022 #18
Kick dalton99a Mar 2022 #19
Thank you...let's see how the major not much real news networks attempt to cover this up. Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2022 #22
It was pretty obvious, from the beginning, imo... kentuck Mar 2022 #21
Wow...true...This report shows how Republicans used, and continue use of template Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2022 #24
Tucker is a traitor L. Coyote Mar 2022 #25
Fox is national security threat, in pocket of Putin...shut it down! Let courts sort it. Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2022 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #59
The entire Republican party is a Russian asset Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #28
I want to read Sarah Kendzior's HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #32
I'll have to look that up Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #35
Thank you so much for this. ancianita Mar 2023 #68
Interesting interview, thanks for looking backward 2 years and finding the reference on DU bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #69
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #29
That photo! SHAME AND PRIDE bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #31
I know, that oh so very Smug look Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #36
To the gallows with Benedict Donald Blue Owl Mar 2022 #37
Bookmarking liberalla Mar 2022 #38
unfortunately jcgoldie Mar 2022 #39
When Putin falls, the entire plot will be exposed. And Putin has met his Armaggedon Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #40
This needs to be common knowledge Martin Eden Mar 2022 #46
/// Bookmark usaf-vet Mar 2022 #47
At this point, unfortunately, this is "dog bites man," not "man bites dog." BadgerMom Mar 2022 #48
KR TY We Noticed! Cha Mar 2022 #51
Submissive Republican loser sells out America Achilleaze Mar 2022 #53
In Chump's case, he's not a Russian asset so much as he is a Russian asshat. Hassler Mar 2022 #55
lock him up YoshidaYui Mar 2022 #58
Thank You for posting...K and R.. Stuart G Mar 2022 #60
Thanks for the link. I reposted on FB. GoneOffShore Mar 2022 #62
Still walking free Meowmee Mar 2022 #63
Traitors need to be HUNG.... YoshidaYui Mar 2022 #64
"They"* all knew about Trump and Russia in 2016 and said nothing. Botany Mar 2022 #66
And TFG still walks free. nt Hotler Mar 2022 #65
See that rolled up magazine in pooty's hand? 2naSalit Mar 2023 #67

sop

(10,165 posts)
1. "That makes Trump more than a Russian asset. It makes him...an agent of a foreign power."
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:24 AM
Mar 2022

When will Trump be held accountable? I know, I know...be patient.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
2. Everytime TFG said "fake news" as per connections between Trump/Trump Campaign and Russia ....
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:44 AM
Mar 2022

... he was lying. I wonder how much top secret material he gave Putin? And what were in those
boxes he took from the White House? I'm willing to bet all your money and home that Putin had
promises from Donny that in his second term he would get the U.S. out of NATO.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16470016

gab13by13

(21,318 posts)
10. Not all of the classified documents have been recovered.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:03 AM
Mar 2022

This seems to me to be a situation where DOJ should be acting immediately, our national security is at risk.

I'm talking like search warrants for Mar-el-Loco, probably too late now.

PatSeg

(47,415 posts)
42. And what was said in his private meetings with Putin?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:34 PM
Mar 2022

Where are the translator's notes? In the toilet?

Botany

(70,501 posts)
45. Where is the translator now?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:02 PM
Mar 2022

I want to rub Trump's selling out the United States and its allies in the MAGA(T)s faces.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
41. how many here think Trump was smart enough to
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:33 PM
Mar 2022

know he was being played?..this is an idiot who wanted to buy Greenland, thought Finland was part of Russia...for Trump, it was the promise of a Trump hotel in Moscow...I do agree he was enthralled with Putin, the power, the control, the state run media, the ability to kill his adversaries from a distance, a massive army at his disposal, coterie of yes men doing Putin's bidding...power, money revenge..that's what drives Depraved Donnie..

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
44. Trumpy-Boy wanted admission to an exclusive club of super-wealthy billionaires.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:53 PM
Mar 2022

His attempts to receive admission to an elite community of wealth fell flat in NYC. But he knew that Russians were willing to play with him, and he knew that he could land a lot of dough in the land of the Oligarchs. All he needed was gift-giving of government secrets to Putin (to show his loyalty), and he'd be getting that hotel in Moscow, and he'd gift Putin a suite on the top floor to show his gratitude. Then fame and real riches would be his.

So he decided that he'd leverage the security of the United States for guaranteed wealth and status on an international level. It didn't matter to him that the US would be weakened. He saw a shifting of alliances in the world order, with autocrats taking the lead and dominating world affairs. North Korea, the Philippines, Russia, Turkey, Syria, China, Hungary-- so many autocrats were and are still on the rise. Trump anticipated a big windfall as he buddied-up to all of them. He'd sell the United States for money and power. And with a second term, his alliance with Putin would be complete and he'd become Putin's partner in denuding the United States and allowing Russia to virtually annex the US. He'd give Putin everything, including the country, and in return, Trump would have everything he ever wanted.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
49. always the useful idiot...
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:44 PM
Mar 2022

Trump's most admired despots are smart enough to know how to hold onto power...Trump trips over his mouth...they don't...

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
52. Once he was trapped in the office of POTUS,
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 05:32 PM
Mar 2022

... he began efforts to win re-election. Calling the growing loss of the popular vote count "rigged", stolen by illegal voters.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-votes-idUSKBN13M0XZ

Why choose the road of claiming he won the popular vote in 2016? Partially because he had no intention of actually winning and governing.

But, will we ever truly know if he had any intention of trying to win votes from the majority of this country? All appearances say no.

There is something in the con brain that leaves no room for compromise today. Dirty tricks and lying is their only course of action.

robbob

(3,527 posts)
57. That, and started grifting...
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 08:24 PM
Mar 2022

We still don’t have the whole story on the inauguration slush fund…

Kid Berwyn

(14,890 posts)
4. Odd how little coverage the report received.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:47 AM
Mar 2022

From the OP article:



As to Russia, the report leaves no doubt: In 2020, as in 2016, “President Putin authorized, and a range of Russian government organizations conducted, influence operations” to help Trump and hurt his Democratic opponent. For example, “Shortly after the 2018 midterm elections, Russian intelligence cyber actors attempted to hack organizations primarily affiliated with the Democratic Party.” Then, in late 2019, Russia’s military intelligence service, the GRU, “conducted a phishing campaign against subsidiaries of Burisma holdings, likely in an attempt to gather information related to President Biden’s family.” Throughout the 2020 election, agents “connected to the Russian Federal Security Service,” FSB, planted negative stories about Biden. Internet operatives working for the Kremlin, including the troll farm that had boosted Trump in 2016, continued to promote “Trump and his commentary, including repeating his political messaging.”

Attacks on Biden and his son, Hunter, were part of this operation. Through “US officials and prominent US individuals, some of whom were close to former President Trump and his administration,” the report says Russia’s intelligence services “repeatedly spread unsubstantiated or misleading claims about President Biden and his family’s alleged wrongdoing related to Ukraine.” In this way, Trump’s circle “laundered” the Russian-planted stories, which were then recirculated—and promoted by Russia’s online proxies—as American news.

One section of the report zeroes in on two Russian agents, Andriy Derkach and Konstantin Kilimnik, along with their associates. It says they met with and passed materials to people linked to the Trump administration to advocate for government investigations. Derkach peddled audio recordings that were edited to make Biden look corrupt, and he “worked to initiate legal proceedings in Ukraine and the US related to these allegations.” The report doesn’t name the Americans who collaborated with the Russian agents, but it’s easy to identify them from news reports. Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, met with Derkach twice. Donald Trump Jr. promoted Derkach’s tapes. Trump’s 2016 campaign manager, Paul Manafort, gave Kilimnik inside information on the campaign. Trump, in a 2019 phone call, pressed Ukraine’s president to open an investigation of Biden, as Derkach proposed. And congressional Republicans, led by Reps. Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes, parroted a Russian-planted narrative “to falsely blame Ukraine for interfering in the 2016 US presidential election.”

Continues…

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html





And people wonder why President Biden’s popularity poll numbers are low.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
8. And so much out of Trump and or Fox News' mouth are straight from Russia and Russian pys oops.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:00 AM
Mar 2022

Hunter Biden, Woke, "election rigging" by other countries, Joe Biden is feeble, and on and on.

Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #4)

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
54. Oh, there's a guy in my neighborhood who
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 05:35 PM
Mar 2022

dismisses any idea that red don works for putin. He buys barr's spin that "the Mueller Report shows there was no Russian interference."

No point even talking to him. He knows he's right.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
14. I guess Trump sitting at his big desk with others standing behind him makes him feel powerful
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:13 AM
Mar 2022

What an insecure ass.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
34. Maybe piling a few cans of Goya beans on the Resolute desk in front of him....
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:57 AM
Mar 2022

would help even more.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
30. Why when the Republican controlled Senate Intel Committee finishedits report on Russian and Trump ..
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:50 AM
Mar 2022

... that it wasn't national news 24/7 is an indictment on our "liberal media." They sure covered
HRC and her emails enough.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
12. A vote for Trump was a vote for Putin..
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:05 AM
Mar 2022

and in 2020, 74 million Americans made that choice. Pretty fucking scary.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
20. Mueller report made that clear...is this Mueller Report Unredacted, with a different book cover?
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:34 AM
Mar 2022

That would be yet another awesome move by the President.

slightlv

(2,787 posts)
13. I'd like to know what it would take
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:09 AM
Mar 2022

for our MSM to actually start reporting news as it exists today... not like what they'd like it to be or as it was when McTrump was jacking around. I wish there was a way we could make them (impress upon them the importance of) reporting and explaining all the criminal charges and evidence on tfg in such a way to make it grab people by the neck, shake them, and make them listen.

I'm afraid if we can't get them tilted away from the treasonous side of the country, we're going to be working in vain on everything else.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
15. The Great Wholesale G.O.P. betrayal of America
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:20 AM
Mar 2022

(and also their betrayal of truth and basic human decency), coupled with the G.O.P. embrace of ruthless totalitarian FaceStomping Russian bile and hate, is The Greatest Betrayal of All Time.

When history is written, the Grand KGOP Republican Moral Collapse is going to rank right up there with Judas and his stinking, treacherous kissyface.

niyad

(113,275 posts)
17. F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR** works for putin and russia, has for decdes. That
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:29 AM
Mar 2022

top picture always gets me. TRAITOR** had to really slouch to appear shorter than his master.

dalton99a

(81,455 posts)
19. Kick
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:33 AM
Mar 2022
Attacks on Biden and his son, Hunter, were part of this operation. Through “US officials and prominent US individuals, some of whom were close to former President Trump and his administration,” the report says Russia’s intelligence services “repeatedly spread unsubstantiated or misleading claims about President Biden and his family’s alleged wrongdoing related to Ukraine.” In this way, Trump’s circle “laundered” the Russian-planted stories, which were then recirculated—and promoted by Russia’s online proxies—as American news.

One section of the report zeroes in on two Russian agents, Andriy Derkach and Konstantin Kilimnik, along with their associates. It says they met with and passed materials to people linked to the Trump administration to advocate for government investigations. Derkach peddled audio recordings that were edited to make Biden look corrupt, and he “worked to initiate legal proceedings in Ukraine and the US related to these allegations.” The report doesn’t name the Americans who collaborated with the Russian agents, but it’s easy to identify them from news reports. Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, met with Derkach twice. Donald Trump Jr. promoted Derkach’s tapes. Trump’s 2016 campaign manager, Paul Manafort, gave Kilimnik inside information on the campaign. Trump, in a 2019 phone call, pressed Ukraine’s president to open an investigation of Biden, as Derkach proposed. And congressional Republicans, led by Reps. Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes, parroted a Russian-planted narrative “to falsely blame Ukraine for interfering in the 2016 US presidential election.”

Trump also helped Putin discredit American democracy. That was a major goal of Russia’s 2016 and 2020 operations, the report explains: “Throughout the election, Russia’s online influence actors sought to amplify mistrust in the electoral process by denigrating mail-in ballots, highlighting alleged irregularities, and accusing the Democratic Party of voter fraud.” Trump peddled the same fears. After the election, as “Russian online influence actors continued to promote narratives questioning the election results,” Trump duplicated that message. Russia’s agents also hyped “allegations of social media censorship,” as Trump did.

The IC assessment doesn’t address what Trump knew about the Russian influence campaign. But according to former officials who spoke last fall to the Washington Post and the New York Times, he was directly warned. In a December 2019 conversation, then–national security adviser Robert O’Brien told Trump that Giuliani had been “worked by Russian assets in Ukraine.” Trump shrugged and went on promoting the allegations Giuliani was feeding him. That makes Trump more than a Russian asset. It makes him, in technical terms, an agent of a foreign power.


Declassified version of Director of National Intelligence report is at
https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/ICA-declass-16MAR21.pdf

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
21. It was pretty obvious, from the beginning, imo...
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:35 AM
Mar 2022

...for those that cared to look.

"Russia, if you're listening..."

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
24. Wow...true...This report shows how Republicans used, and continue use of template
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:38 AM
Mar 2022

handed to them by Putin…it’s diabolical. They veered off course for a few days after Insurrection Day, but they formally forced back on course by Foxy means…Fox is owned by Putin also, isn’t that obvious as well by now?

Fox is a national security threat!

And so plainly in front of our faces…well, all faces except the so called Major news monopolies in America.

They will do usual about face…nothing to see here!

Fascist enablers.

Response to kentuck (Reply #21)

Farmer-Rick

(10,160 posts)
28. The entire Republican party is a Russian asset
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:46 AM
Mar 2022

They don't call the Senate minority leader Moscow Mitch for nothing.

But come on, couldn't the FBI and CIA catch on before the Russians put TFG in the white house?

No, they were too busy writing letters for public release concerning classified information on Hillary. The FBI, in particular, were used like a fine tool by Putin. And then they release a report only after the Russian asset is removed by "We the People". Of what value are the FBI and CIA if they can't even identify a threat like TFG before the Russians put him into action?????????

Seems to me the FBI and CIA have been compromised.

bucolic_frolic

(43,138 posts)
32. I want to read Sarah Kendzior's HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:55 AM
Mar 2022

She had a bit on Twitter on the FBI and Comey's role, and SDNY. Needs to be exposed.

ancianita

(36,030 posts)
68. Thank you so much for this.
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 06:47 PM
Mar 2023


Maybe you'd like to read this...

April 22, 2020, in the last year of Trump, Bitch Media's Andi Zeisler interviewed Sarah Kendzior, author of Hidden In Plain Sight.

This interview with her covers a lot about the weakness of corporate media, and the widely unrespected strength of women who, as whistleblowers and thought leaders, are key to keeping democracy.


https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/sarah-kendzior-hiding-in-plain-sight-interview

bucolic_frolic

(43,138 posts)
69. Interesting interview, thanks for looking backward 2 years and finding the reference on DU
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 07:42 PM
Mar 2023

That's proof that you never know how long or who your ideas may reach, what change or influence they could engender, or what they might spark. So you post anyway, and run with it .

bucolic_frolic

(43,138 posts)
31. That photo! SHAME AND PRIDE
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:52 AM
Mar 2022

This country needs to ditch the thugs in suits worship. People think a suit makes one harmless, yet every thug has worn one.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
39. unfortunately
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:23 PM
Mar 2022

All he has to say is "I'm no puppet, you're the puppet!" and the racist masses go "see he said he didn't do it so its ok to vote for the guy because the libs hate really hate him and they're worse than Putin anyway...."

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
46. This needs to be common knowledge
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:17 PM
Mar 2022

Thereafter, anyone who supports Trump knowingly supports Russian interests over the United States.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
48. At this point, unfortunately, this is "dog bites man," not "man bites dog."
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:25 PM
Mar 2022

It’s more evidence of something that was revealed with a high degree of likelihood in 2016 and earlier. I wish there had been more severe consequences for the traitor by now.

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
64. Traitors need to be HUNG....
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 03:59 AM
Mar 2022

OR at least thrown into a dark prison some where, where no one has to look at his ugly mug again.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
66. "They"* all knew about Trump and Russia in 2016 and said nothing.
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 11:01 AM
Mar 2022

* McConnell, Stone, Flynn, Paul Ryan, Sessions, Pence, Scalise, McCarthy, Murdoch, Hannity, and
Facebook's Zuck-man.

2naSalit

(86,569 posts)
67. See that rolled up magazine in pooty's hand?
Sun Mar 19, 2023, 12:45 PM
Mar 2023

I need mind bleach for what it thinks went on in that room!

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