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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt seems the same assholes who drive pick up trucks
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and full size SUVs, not for their work or a business, but because it shows what tough they are, are the ones screaming the loudest about higher gas prices.
The degree of self blindness is amazing.
And to be clear, this is about those who have these big ass vehicles but don't need them in any way. And I say there are a lot more of those than there should be.
Shermann
(7,409 posts)I'd like to see an EV option for the Ford Bronco.
edhopper
(33,543 posts)a Chevy Suburban or a Ford 250. I see too many with one person driving or nothing in the pristine cargo bay. I know two many families of 3 or 4 with monster SUVs. You want a big ass vehicle that gets 15 mpg, fine, but don't gripe about gas prices then.
There are also more hybrid options than EVs.
CommonHumanity
(246 posts)I posted a reply below titled "I have a Toyota Tundra, a Ford F150....", but then backtracked and read your post which I hadn't seen before.
Don't be so sure/critical re seeing big trucks with empty beds. I have often haul a full load of stuff, drop it off and then drive home or do errands en route (gingerly placing my 2 grocery bags in the giant truck bed). The truth is it uses more gas to drive home and swap out the truck for my Prius as opposed to stopping for groceries in the Tundra.
I take pains to remove everything I can from the bed to lighten the load, prevent theft and prevent damage to my supplies and equipment. In addition, I happen to like cleaning it out, sorting my supplies and cleaning it up after it has been filled to the brim. It's my truck! My investment! Vital to my business! It took a long time to find and afford it.
I get what you're saying about trucks being used for posturing, but don't be so quick to judge. I have a livestock-based business in a non-agricultural community. That means people are even more likely to judge and to think there is no reason for me to drive a truck, much less a truck with an empty bed. Ha! Just let them try to do what I do. Their judgment would be wiped out in an afternoon.
edhopper
(33,543 posts)But I live in NY City and see way too many that are never used to haul a thing.
And my point was about those with these too big vehicles griping the most about gas prices.
CommonHumanity
(246 posts)The primary content of my reply addressed you seeing them with nothing in the cargo area. The fact that you see nothing in the cargo area means absolutely nothing. You may have just noticed them at a time when it was empty. Even if it is pristine. Some people consider their vehicles an investment and clean the cargo out after use like I do. Sorry! Guess I should have left out the extraneous information and only addressed that issue in a more concise manner.
edhopper
(33,543 posts)but it gets in the way of my rant.
Anyway, I am not talking about ALL pick up drivers.
CommonHumanity
(246 posts)Got ya. And I'm glad you posted again because it gives me a chance to apologize for being a little defensive on the topic. Sorry.....
edhopper
(33,543 posts)no foul
JanMichael
(24,881 posts)They wanted 14mpg and 50 gallon tanks. Reap it.
paleotn
(17,901 posts)American masculinity can be a fragile thing. Poor snowflakes.
LakeArenal
(28,809 posts)I married one of those real men.
One who eats quiche
One who will where a pink shirt
One who doesnt really brag about his grill
One who once owned guns but never talked about them.
Respects women, pets and work.
One who votes Democratic every time.
walkingman
(7,591 posts)LakeArenal
(28,809 posts)Almost like our first years together
Freddie
(9,258 posts)Except for the quiche.
I credit his mom (RIP). She went back to work when DH and his brother were middle school age. Told them - hungry? Theres the microwave. Need clean clothes? Theres the washer and dryer. And she was a Crazy Cat Lady and that rubbed off, although we only have 2.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Ever notice the drawl and content of TV commercials? Heavy on the rugged individuality they portray . From barbecue sauce to pickup trucks, they've created a mythical man these folks Aspire to be.
Emile
(22,615 posts)to do chores around my little farm. Most of the time it sits in the garage. It's a 2011 that I bought new and only has 37,000 miles on it.
you have a need for one, but don't drive it around town or use it to go grocery shopping.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Four banger with a turbo. Then I blow off the trucks and they hate it. Plus I get 25 to the gallon.
My kids Volt is even faster than my car. The other thing that is fun is having a truck tailgating you and slipping into a sharp corner. The truck can barely stay on their side of the road. I live in Pa and we have curvy roads.
Emile
(22,615 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)The young man that delivered my stove told me he averages 26mpg with is actually slightly better than the 2005 4cyl Camry I'm driving.
We chatted because that truck was so beautiful I put my hand on it before I even realized it. Absolute gorgeous piece of machinery.
DBoon
(22,350 posts)but have never picked up a hammer in their life
jalan48
(13,852 posts)environment. It keeps the economy growing you know and making some folks fabulously wealthy (oligarchs).
Itchinjim
(3,085 posts)I also haven't griped about the price of gas since 1989.
Diamond_Dog
(31,950 posts)He drove his rather large pickup truck to work and back home which for him was like a ten minute drive, never used it for hauling anything, and never allowed a speck of dirt on it. His reply was always the same: A man needs to have a truck.
Emile
(22,615 posts)In 2011 they called it a hybrid V8. Whenever you are going downhill or when you have the wind to your back it automatically shuts off 4 cylinders.
CommonHumanity
(246 posts)I never drive that little death trap Prius. I tried, but to me sitting up high and owning the road is more important than mileage or climate change. Sorry but my first priority is protecting my own ass. Climate change comes next.
JUST KIDDING! (Couldn't resist). But the truth is I do own all three vehicles as well as 16'foot and 12' livestock trailers.
Good God, I HATE having all these vehicles! I am the person who was always challenged in maintaining her Corolla or Accord. Now I'm a truck monster. UGH... Unfortunately, I absolutely need them for my targeted grazing business (using goats to control invasive vegetation).
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it when I can finally stop driving the trucks and get in my Prius. In fact, we often take the truck/trailer to a job, leave them at the job site and commute to the site in the Prius. Covid put a crimp in that since employees have wanted to drive in separate vehicles. Hopefully, if Covid abates we can get back to carpooling to and from jobs in the Prius. I try...
I hate how much gas the trucks and trailers use and don't even get me started on the emissions and the wrong impression people get of me when they see me in my truck. Oddly enough a lot of guys think a woman in a truck is sexy. Go figure...maybe it is the contrast with the stereotype or something like that. For now, I liken myself to Marlena Deitrich in a tux (I'm being sarcastic).
Anyway, I am troubled by having an environmentally friendly business while still burning a lot of fossil fuel. My dream is to win a grant to buy a Ford F150 Lightning Electric Truck. How sweet that would be!
nolabear
(41,956 posts)I dont know where you are but in WA the blackberry is the kudzu of the PNW. Goats have helped clear many a hill so they could dig in and try to eradicate those monsters. On the other hand, they hood soil on hills and are delicious. 😃
former9thward
(31,962 posts)Do I "need" it? Absolutely not. But I don't "need" 90% of the things I have. I want them. I have never complained about gas prices here or in real life. Pick up trucks are far safer than smaller cars. If you want to have a small car that is your choice but don't complain about mine.
dwayneb
(767 posts)Depending on where you live and what sort of house you are trying to maintain, a truck or SUV may be essential. Small car is not going to cut it if you are frequently moving lumber or other large items. And if you are in the Northern climes, most small cars aren't that great in the snow.
Secondly as an automotive durability engineer (company H) there is no doubt that well designed light trucks/SUVs are safer in a crash than most small cars. Particularly in a small car versus truck crash scenario.
But I get your point. If you have a vehicle that gets poor gas mileage you are going to pay the price for that. A little immature to be complaining.
edhopper
(33,543 posts)lot of vehicles between small cars and monster trucks.
I have a Honda CR-V that gets 36 highway. It is not a small car.
bif
(22,693 posts)I always say to myself, "Burn up that fuel shithead!"
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)Both have engines 2L or smaller. Both get over 30 MPG. I can put a 55" flatscreen TV in either of them, and have.
When I need a truck to haul some stuff, I go to Home Depot or UHaul and rent one for about $25. I haul my stuff and then take the think back to the place where I rented it. I do that maybe twice a year.
But, that's just me. I don't have a boat or a trailer, and I work from my home, or used to until I retired last year. Don't need a truck. Don't really need two cars, but we have two because we're sometimes going to two different places.
Unlike my neighbor in our townhome quad, I can park both of my cars in the garage, which is really nice in the winter. He has a crew cab F150. Doesn't fit in the garage. So, he gets to scrape ice off the windows.
To each his or her own, though.
Captain Zero
(6,799 posts)He bought and drove home thinking it would fit in his garage. Nope.
But he sure can drive anywhere in the winter, AFTER he gets the snow and ICE off of it.
I can go anywhere in the winter too after I pull my AWD Subaru Legacy out of my lean-to Parking garage space.
And once or twice a year I rent a truck for myself or to help out someone else.
When all this 'need a truck nuttiness' started in the early 80s, I had an uneasy feeling about it then.
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)subcompact SUV can go anywhere, any time. Nope. It stays in the garage until the roads are plowed and the snow removal crew has been in our development. Then, I take it out, drive it carefully on the slushy, sometimes icy roads.
"The bigger and better the 4WD truck you have, the farther it can go before getting stuck." That was what my father told me. Even a track-laying tank can and will get stuck at some point.
So, I like my little AWD econobox, but it only helps me go in the snow when it's not too deep. Until then, I wait for the pros to clear most of it away.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)MineralMan
(146,281 posts)A 1.4 liter, turbocharged 4-banger. Supposedly, it makes 155 HP. Still, I have yet to use more than half-throttle on it.
maxrandb
(15,311 posts)Been garaged in Ohio, but I still use it at least once or twice a month for grocery runs. Still runs like a charm and my daughter scratched her name in the tailgate with a rock when she was little.
Even if I have to get rid of it, I am mounting the tailgate somewhere.