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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, Putin is firing his FSB intelligence officers at lightening speed.
It's an admission that he went into this war with false intel. He thought Ukraine would be a 2-15 day operation. The assessment I've read is that he only has himself to blame because he was intentionally looking for an opportunity to attack. And the underlings gave him what he wanted.
Couldn't help thinking that this also happened when GWBII was president. He wanted a reason to invade Iraq, and his inner circle, Condoleza Rice, Colin Powell and others were only too happy to be the public face to serve the cooked up Yellow Cake false meme. Wish Bush would have fired them all, like Putin did.
How unlucky we all are, in this time in history, to have a slew of leaders who have risen to the highest levels of government, where they are allowed to create false perceptions of the world, and act upon them.
lame54
(35,284 posts)mitch96
(13,892 posts)hadEnuf
(2,187 posts)Irish_Dem
(46,918 posts)Who knows what is going on in Moscow right now.
smb
(3,471 posts)Zelenskyy announced that an FSB insider gave his people intel on assassination attempts, which seems like an odd thing to do -- unless it was simply to troll Putrid and make him distrust the FSB -- or unless he figured that Putrid would figure that it was just trolling and ignore it it, in which case Zelenskyy announcing the existence of an FSB mole was a perfect coverup for the fact that there really is an FSB mole....
Irish_Dem
(46,918 posts)Playing with Putin's head.
Putin would certainly infiltrate an enemy's secret intelligence services.
But Putin would not have announced it. So what does it mean that Zelensky announces it?
Putin thinks he has the world's best and most secure intel services in the world. But where is Zelensky getting his good intel.
OK let's start firing people.
Putin must be going in circles and getting paranoid.
Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)then see if any of those intels get spread.
Irish_Dem
(46,918 posts)And house cleaning.
So Zelensky is making sure Putin is preoccupied with domestic problems.
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)Irish_Dem
(46,918 posts)The inner circle is anxious now. And this is exactly Putin's intent.
wcmagumba
(2,883 posts)PortTack
(32,755 posts)Hugin
(33,120 posts)Of the quarry.
The lesson of Rasputin is still fresh in bear country.
moondust
(19,972 posts)integrity or accuracy from a system that has long run on strictly enforced toadyism and top-down corruption. That's how autocracies roll.
Chainfire
(17,530 posts)tyrants don't make mistakes.
no_hypocrisy
(46,080 posts)smb
(3,471 posts)...just like his Mini-Me.
Irish_Dem
(46,918 posts)Narcissistic sociopath.
mitch96
(13,892 posts)in his ear.
As the saying goes "never let a crisis go to waste"... I wonder how the US and NATO are gonna use this crisis to their advantage. For sure this is gonna take russia and it's influence down a few notches. Maybe make it another pariah like North Korea. Crap economy that has nukes.
Shoot, where is my crystal ball...
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Irish_Dem
(46,918 posts)Instead he will be the next North Korea.
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)responsible for the 9/11 attack. The oil pipeline deal in Afghanistan.
But, Bush was easy to influence. Growing up in a household with a CIA director father who had unfavorable views of Iran, Iraq and Russia, he was already indoctrinated to that kind of move.
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)W admin is a stain that will never go away. We displaced as many as Russia is doing right now, used chemical weapons including white phosphorous, torture was legal and we "kick(ed) some ass." Right W? Go back to your painting and Cheney, if you're not truly Voldemort, how are you still alive? Colin and Condi: Thanks for all the lies about WMD, aluminum tubes and yellow cake uranium.
Oh and 17 of the 19 911 hijackers were SAUDI's. Yellow magnets and MSM took care of any of those silly details.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,585 posts)The military controls the delivery systems.
Putin isnt just getting revenge for bad intelligence, hes likely securing the perimeter of insiders close to him.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)embarrassing, and shows just how much this thug is out of touch w/ his own capabilities, his own people.
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)patphil
(6,169 posts)So there is a tendency for their subordinates to sugar coat everything to avoid their wrath.
The only difference is that Putin has a lot more governmental and military experience, and shouldn't have believed it would be that easy.
His ego betrayed him.
Now he has to gamble that brutal bombardment of the cities will force a quick end. Six months from now I think he'll wish he never invaded Ukraine.
He's really worried that the people of Russia will see what he's done. If the war's over he can probably ride it out, but if it's ongoing, there will be hell to pay in the form of pissed off Russian citizens.